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Re: Bucket o' fungus - Z strain [Re: kadakuda]
    #7235705 - 07/29/07 04:45 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

It is a bit paper-like but I wouldn't say waxy. I found some in a non-english speaking country with the band-aids in a pharmacy. It has a picture on the box showing the tape's breathable.


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Re: Bucket o' fungus - Z strain [Re: legallyhomeless]
    #7235732 - 07/29/07 05:23 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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Plan on writing your tek up soon? Ide like to try this for a few of my WBS jars that have now colonized. Nice grow :thumbup: What was the wet weight on thoes dogs?




Wasn't planning on it, got a bit bummed with how much time the shroomery was taking up from getting other things done - but I may still get around to it, there seems to be a lot of interest. Though, it really is as simple as it looks - mix spawn and compost inside bucket, let colonise - add casing layer and expose to fruiting conditions....

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awsome!!!!  i may try this pretty soon myself!  one quick question, and i know its a stupid one.  micropore tape.  is that the waxy paper like tape hospitals use to tap the need to your arm when taking blood?  sorry about that, i just need a good example as no one speaks english where i live :smile:




Yeah thats the stuff - it is 'breathable' (hence the name 'micro-pore') and is good to cover the holes with.

That being said, if you can't find it (should be near the bandages and dressings in the chemist) you can just leave the holes on the bucket completely open. :thumbup:


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Re: Bucket o' fungus - Z strain [Re: roquet]
    #7235739 - 07/29/07 05:28 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Sorry for repeating you man - we posted at the same time, I just had my reply window open for a while so hadn't seen what you wrote....


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Re: Bucket o' fungus - Z strain [Re: _OttO_]
    #7239058 - 07/30/07 03:51 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Wicked shit! I've posted a grow log of my Z-strain from BRF, im growing these for printing mainly then to make a potent LC using a whole print :smile:

I used your 'LC tek' Otto for my BRF cakes so far and it's a beaut :laugh:

I'll use this 'Bucket tek' to go to WBS soon.. Can't wait! :smile:


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Re: Bucket o' fungus - Z strain [Re: J.T]
    #7239534 - 07/30/07 10:31 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

excellent thanks guys! i found them, good ole 3M always lists things in english no matter what the country haha.

are there any draw backs to using metal containers? stainless steel to be precise. mainly cause i have a hard time with contams and cleaning stuff in "open" air. so i was thing doing like yours but putting it all together and pasteurizing and leaving it in the container without opening it. then put a bunch of LC into there. like a large pf tek, but no cakes, if that makes sense.


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Re: Bucket o' fungus - Z strain [Re: kadakuda]
    #7239760 - 07/30/07 12:04 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

hey Otto, I bought some buckets today to grow my .. Oysters on horse poo as per your tek :smile: 
I use your LC tek too ... works great, I keep feeding it with more honey water and it keeps going.

I couldn't find anywhere that sold those shower caps, could only find the more substantial ones that have flowers and stuff on them.  I guess I could use plastic bags of some type.


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Re: Bucket o' fungus - Z strain [Re: cloudtripper]
    #7242411 - 07/31/07 03:48 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

shower caps are only used cause they have elastic and hld onto the bucket right? any plastic with tape would in theory work similar, no? except the cap makes a convenient lung like you said.


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Re: Bucket o' fungus - Z strain [Re: cloudtripper]
    #7246568 - 08/01/07 06:51 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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hey Otto, I bought some buckets today to grow my .. Oysters on horse poo as per your tek :smile: 
I use your LC tek too ... works great, I keep feeding it with more honey water and it keeps going.

I couldn't find anywhere that sold those shower caps, could only find the more substantial ones that have flowers and stuff on them.  I guess I could use plastic bags of some type.




Hey man, I wouldn't bother feeding your LC with more honey water - I have an LC that is a year old, has not been in the fridge and is still fine - if you are running low, just make a new batch and use the last of your old LC to inoculate them.

Those floral shopwer caps should be fine, will just make your buckets look *pretty*....  :girl:  :flowerchild:

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shower caps are only used cause they have elastic and hld onto the bucket right?  any plastic with tape would in theory work similar, no?  except the cap makes a convenient lung like you said.




Thats exactly right, the elastic is convenient and stays on and a cheap pack of caps is next to nothing - and you can just throw them out afterwards.

With regards to using metal containers and injecting with LC, I'd HIGHLY advise against it - if its not stainless steel it will rust.

Also, I don't think you have a very good chance of it colonising without contam if you just inject LC into it - just follow procedure, spawn colonised cakes or grain to pasteurised substrate and you should be fine. :thumbup:


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Re: Bucket o' fungus - Z strain [Re: _OttO_]
    #7246583 - 08/01/07 07:04 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

ok cool thanks. for metal i was thinking of using pots. i cant find neck less jars here at ALL! just looking for pc'able alternatives for making cakes.

thanks man, helped heaps!


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Re: Bucket o' fungus - Z strain [Re: kadakuda]
    #7246597 - 08/01/07 07:11 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

If you are going to break up the cake and spawn it to bulk the jars don't need to be "shoulder-less".
If you want to fruit directly off the cakes then you will need them.


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Re: Bucket o' fungus - Z strain [Re: UnderNose]
    #7246602 - 08/01/07 07:15 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

s they are just cut up inside the jars and dumped out? damn i'm dumb!


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Re: Bucket o' fungus - Z strain [Re: kadakuda]
    #7246675 - 08/01/07 07:45 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Well you break em up anyway when you spawn them to poo, so they can simply be spooned out of the jar with a clean spoon. :thumbup:


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Re: Bucket o' fungus - Z strain [Re: _OttO_]
    #7274545 - 08/08/07 01:50 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

otto if you ever look at this old post how deep is you substrate and casing layer?


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Re: Bucket o' fungus - Z strain [Re: Mogley]
    #7277276 - 08/09/07 08:33 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Hey mogley, roughly 2.5 to 3 inches of substrate, and just a thin 1/2 to 3/4 inch casing layer.


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Re: Bucket o' fungus - Z strain [Re: _OttO_]
    #7277327 - 08/09/07 08:58 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

i cant wait to try this out


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Re: Bucket o' fungus - Z strain [Re: dlepi]
    #7277888 - 08/09/07 12:56 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I made up 2 buckets the other day. I drilled my holes but after putting in the spawn and poo i realized that with a casing layer, my holes are going to be covered.... wtf should i do?


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Re: Bucket o' fungus - Z strain [Re: legallyhomeless]
    #7278760 - 08/09/07 05:42 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

thx OttO! Im going to give it a shot.

bless!:rasta:


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Re: Bucket o' fungus - Z strain [Re: legallyhomeless]
    #7280253 - 08/10/07 02:16 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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I made up 2 buckets the other day. I drilled my holes but after putting in the spawn and poo i realized that with a casing layer, my holes are going to be covered.... wtf should i do?




Buy another bucket? They're less than $1.


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Re: Bucket o' fungus - Z strain [Re: Boarders]
    #7281339 - 08/10/07 12:23 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Where? Plus the myc and poo is already in them.


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Re: Bucket o' fungus - Z strain [Re: legallyhomeless]
    #7282612 - 08/10/07 07:29 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

From a hardware store? We can source cheap buckets in Australia for 85c, I'm not sure if you can get such cheap buckets in your neck of the woods.

How many days is "the other day"? If your bucket's the same dimensions, couldn't you just slide the material out into the new bucket if it's a solid mass? If it's not, transferring shouldn't be a problem anyway as the mycelium will regrow after transfer.

I'm no expert, but I can't see the problem doing such. The alternatives are:

    1. Seal your existing holes and cut new ones but that just seems like too much hard work!
    2. Remove some of your bulk substrate to allow placement of your casing layer,
    3. Not even use a casing, but I'd consider that an absolute last resort.


As I said, I'm not an expert but am a scientist. Everything I say is theroretical but could provide the answer you seek.


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