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Re: OD'd on shrooms awhile back, need your input. [Re: MauiGanjaMonster]
    #6698099 - 03/22/07 02:03 AM (17 years, 11 days ago)

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MauiGanjaMonster said:
"Mushrooms containing ARSENIC??!! :lol:

That's the funniest thing I've heard in the past two weeks. Thanks for the laugh."


High levels of naturally occurring arsenic:The highest levels of arsenic are detected in seafood, poultry, meats (e.g., pork), mushrooms, salt, and grains. In general, naturally occurring arsenic is usually found in the pentavalent form, which is less toxic than the trivalent form which humans add to the environment. (Arsenate is the form most prevalent in nature.)


Your welcome.




Well I hope that they stop putting all that arsenic in my BRF and RYE...before I DIE! :tongue:


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Re: OD'd on shrooms awhile back, need your input. [Re: RoachMan]
    #6699229 - 03/22/07 12:47 PM (17 years, 10 days ago)

I totally agree that this gives psychedelics a bad rep, I wasn't pretty dumb about the whole dosage thing, guess I just got too excited when I saw a couple ounces of shrooms in my room:crazy:. I also think it was ridiculously stupid of my friends to throw all the supplies out in the middle of...(get ready for this)...a state park....instead of just wrapping it up in plastic bags and throwing it in a dumpster. I could hardly believe it when they told me :whack: . They even tossed their bong and pipes. So sad... They got spooked when the cops told them to trash the stuff, cause they thought the cops were going to come back with a search warrant, but my friends didn't think about the fact that the cops already had gone through my whole room and took my scale and all the shrooms they found, plus my notes on the grow I was doing at the time. Luckily to say that they didn't come back, and no legal issues came from any of this. All in all, it was stupid on my part, and I'm lucky things turned out as well as they did.


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Re: OD'd on shrooms awhile back, need your input. [Re: TheEnd]
    #6699478 - 03/22/07 02:33 PM (17 years, 10 days ago)

Fuck some stupid people sometimes... there is defenitly not enough arsenic in certain mushrooms to kill you but its enough to make you feel quezy and puke


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Re: OD'd on shrooms awhile back, need your input. [Re: MauiGanjaMonster]
    #6699586 - 03/22/07 02:58 PM (17 years, 10 days ago)

i dont know, I always have a valium with me, just incase my trip goes south, hasnt happened yet but I have given it to my friend before who jsut could not handle any more....


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Re: OD'd on shrooms awhile back, need your input. [Re: TheEnd]
    #6699665 - 03/22/07 03:22 PM (17 years, 10 days ago)

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g2_93integra_boy said:
Do you think the 1g in the firecracker attributed a LOT to how I reacted to the effects, or was it most likely just all the shrooms, or both?



Most definitely both.

1 gram of weed is a big dose to eat - it will give strong psychedelic effects by itself. A *good* visual weed trip for me is typically eating half of that (or less).

And 40+ grams of (fresh) mushrooms, again, is one hell of a dose. I take about 30 grams to connect with God and the universe.

If I had to make a choice, I'd rather take my chances with the mushrooms than the weed, but to do both at once? That would just be insanity.

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Re: OD'd on shrooms awhile back, need your input. [Re: TurricaN]
    #6700300 - 03/22/07 06:46 PM (17 years, 10 days ago)

so your roommate called the police?

Why were they there, Why did he let them enter the apartment?

Did they see the grow supplies?


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Re: OD'd on shrooms awhile back, need your input. [Re: TheEnd]
    #6700360 - 03/22/07 07:03 PM (17 years, 10 days ago)

Thanks, this is the funniest thread I've read for years.

Your friend did you a favour throwing all your stuff away, stay clear of drugs and try knitting or cross stitch.


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Re: OD'd on shrooms awhile back, need your input. [Re: TurricaN]
    #6700455 - 03/22/07 07:25 PM (17 years, 10 days ago)

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g2_93integra_boy said:
Do you think the 1g in the firecracker attributed a LOT to how I reacted to the effects, or was it most likely just all the shrooms, or both?



Most definitely both.

1 gram of weed is a big dose to eat - it will give strong psychedelic effects by itself. A *good* visual weed trip for me is typically eating half of that (or less).

And 40+ grams of (fresh) mushrooms, again, is one hell of a dose. I take about 30 grams to connect with God and the universe.

If I had to make a choice, I'd rather take my chances with the mushrooms than the weed, but to do both at once? That would just be insanity.



1/2 gram of weed gives you visuals?


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Re: OD'd on shrooms awhile back, need your input. [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #6700480 - 03/22/07 07:32 PM (17 years, 10 days ago)

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well, it seems that you created this experience with a wrong mindset. the best you can do now is learn from it and avoid such a situation in the future.

IME it really helps to discuss what i like to call "trip values" prior to dosing with other people. that means, talk about the guidelines you want to set for yourself given the possible circumstances that could arise during the session. for example, i make it aware to my friends that 911 is not an option unless i have stopped breathing. i let it be known that if i spiral into a bad trip, i would prefer their loving support and attention to ground me back to reality rather than emergency personnel to assume i am dying. do you see what i am getting at?

communication is essential in group settings. :mushroom2:




:thumbup: Thanks, that's a great way to put it.


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Re: OD'd on shrooms awhile back, need your input. [Re: SYLBM]
    #6700498 - 03/22/07 07:36 PM (17 years, 10 days ago)

thank you. Now I know what not to do. I've never heard of not mixing weed and shrooms. I've only halfway tripped once, but I've been there when my friends have tripped numerous times and they've always smoked when they've tripped. I'm curious, what effect does weed have on a trip?

And the comment that weed gives you visuals...um...no. That's definitely something I have experience in. I've eaten retarded amounts of pot with no visuals.

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Re: OD'd on shrooms awhile back, need your input. [Re: TheEnd]
    #6700554 - 03/22/07 07:48 PM (17 years, 10 days ago)

You must have serious anger issues. You were annoyed by a girl crying?

Grow up before touching drugs again, and get friends that are not so retarded. They called the cops? Jesus christ.

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Re: OD'd on shrooms awhile back, need your input. [Re: officerfox]
    #6700557 - 03/22/07 07:49 PM (17 years, 10 days ago)

Moron. Pot can give you visuals. Get better pot.

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Re: OD'd on shrooms awhile back, need your input. [Re: MauiGanjaMonster]
    #6700616 - 03/22/07 08:00 PM (17 years, 10 days ago)

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MauiGanjaMonster said:
"Mushrooms containing ARSENIC??!! :lol:

That's the funniest thing I've heard in the past two weeks. Thanks for the laugh."


High levels of naturally occurring arsenic:The highest levels of arsenic are detected in seafood, poultry, meats (e.g., pork), mushrooms, salt, and grains. In general, naturally occurring arsenic is usually found in the pentavalent form, which is less toxic than the trivalent form which humans add to the environment. (Arsenate is the form most prevalent in nature.)


Your welcome.




Send me a link with that info being relevant to psilocybin mushrooms and I'll be sucking your dick.  Only 88 species of mushroom contain ANY TRACE ( gotta love google) of arsenic and I have not found a shred of evidence to suggest that psilocybin mushrooms are included in that tally. 

Amanita's and many edible species ARE included, however. 

I agree.  Stupid people DO SUCK. 

*slurp*

so please, link me up with FACTs.  I wanna be in the know.

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Re: OD'd on shrooms awhile back, need your input. [Re: Hanky]
    #6700619 - 03/22/07 08:00 PM (17 years, 10 days ago)

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Thanks, this is the funniest thread I've read for years.

Your friend did you a favour throwing all your stuff away, stay clear of drugs and try knitting or cross stitch.




I agree with the above statements. There are also some anger issues you should touch base with before you decide to do things that open your emotions so easily with something such as mushrooms.

It is probably pretty awesome to see that many mushrooms but I would feel way better about it if I put them in a bag and hid them away, sneaking out a little bit at a time to stretch it out over a couple of years and with some good friends. :wink:

Peace, and it seems that you have learned for the better from this which is good. Respect the mushrooms and they will always be good to you. Taking them just to get messed up is disrespectful.

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Re: OD'd on shrooms awhile back, need your input. [Re: officerfox]
    #6700645 - 03/22/07 08:08 PM (17 years, 10 days ago)

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thank you. Now I know what not to do. I've never heard of not mixing weed and shrooms. I've only halfway tripped once, but I've been there when my friends have tripped numerous times and they've always smoked when they've tripped. I'm curious, what effect does weed have on a trip?

And the comment that weed gives you visuals...um...no. That's definitely something I have experience in. I've eaten retarded amounts of pot with no visuals.





I enjoy smoking weed with shrooms or any other psychedelic drug. It mostly brings on a rather intense mind fuck and intensify visuals. Nothing dangerous about ti unless your inexperienced and not expecting anything to happen. And half a gram of weed edibles will most definitely give me visuals.


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Re: OD'd on shrooms awhile back, need your input. [Re: MauiGanjaMonster]
    #6700675 - 03/22/07 08:17 PM (17 years, 10 days ago)

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MauiGanjaMonster said:
"Mushrooms containing ARSENIC??!! :lol:

That's the funniest thing I've heard in the past two weeks. Thanks for the laugh."


High levels of naturally occurring arsenic:The highest levels of arsenic are detected in seafood, poultry, meats (e.g., pork), mushrooms, salt, and grains. In general, naturally occurring arsenic is usually found in the pentavalent form, which is less toxic than the trivalent form which humans add to the environment. (Arsenate is the form most prevalent in nature.)


Your welcome.




The thing you're forgetting here is that these weren't naturally occuring mushrooms.  He grew them.  I'm certain that if your above post is true, it's because they were absorbed from their environment.  I seriously doubt that whatever cake material he used contained enough arsenic to be then absorbed by the mushrooms and make him nauseous.  Rather, it was the combination of weed and mushrooms.


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Re: OD'd on shrooms awhile back, need your input. [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #6700701 - 03/22/07 08:24 PM (17 years, 10 days ago)

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MauiGanjaMonster said:
"Mushrooms containing ARSENIC??!! :lol:

That's the funniest thing I've heard in the past two weeks. Thanks for the laugh."


High levels of naturally occurring arsenic:The highest levels of arsenic are detected in seafood, poultry, meats (e.g., pork), mushrooms, salt, and grains. In general, naturally occurring arsenic is usually found in the pentavalent form, which is less toxic than the trivalent form which humans add to the environment. (Arsenate is the form most prevalent in nature.)


Your welcome.




The thing you're forgetting here is that these weren't naturally occuring mushrooms.  He grew them.  I'm certain that if your above post is true, it's because they were absorbed from their environment.  I seriously doubt that whatever cake material he used contained enough arsenic to be then absorbed by the mushrooms and make him nauseous.  Rather, it was the combination of weed and mushrooms.




Freaking out is also known to make people sick on mushrooms.  Good points, Hagbard.

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Re: OD'd on shrooms awhile back, need your input. [Re: TheEnd]
    #6702091 - 03/23/07 06:20 AM (17 years, 9 days ago)

this story should reinforce the idea that pyschedlic drugs arent for everyone. if this kid had done some research and used a little common sense most of the entire episode coould've been avoided.

hey brah maybe just stick to the weed and maybe morning glory seeds or something haha


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Re: OD'd on shrooms awhile back, need your input. [Re: Audi0]
    #6702500 - 03/23/07 09:17 AM (17 years, 9 days ago)

wtf...
is it possible for someone to not be able to trip. I've eaten a whole feast made of pot. My favorite is pot butter 'cuz you can eat it on just about anything, but I've never seen visuals and I've eaten a whole eighth of shrooms before with no visuals. One time, the walls looked like they were breathing at me for a few minutes and that was it. I think I ate an eighth and then 3 caps after that just to see the walls breath for those few minutes. I know it's not crappy shit b/c my friends ate the same stuff and they were trippin balls. What am I doing wrong?

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Re: OD'd on shrooms awhile back, need your input. [Re: TheEnd]
    #6702624 - 03/23/07 10:31 AM (17 years, 9 days ago)

The weed probably did attribute to some of your experience but I'd say most of it was just too many mushrooms, or just a bad setting.

What you should have done was told your peers that one cannot OD on mushrooms. There are Erowid reports of people taking 1/2oz - 1oz dry. They won't make you stop breathing, they won't kill you, they will do nothing more than make you very confused. You should of had a sedative to knock you out just in case, and at worst, your friend should have just strapped you down and taped your mouth shut so you don't scream.

When you're experiencing a mindfuck, you should definitely try changing the scene. I know it's hard to just turn the lights on or off when you're tripping, but you just have to change the scene. Your friends should have just calmed you down and told you everything will be OK in a few hours. So what if you're sticking your tongue out? On very high doses I sometimes lick my lips or fingers or try out different things because they feel alien to me.

At least have some N2O. This can really turn a trip around, and you should definitely print out the Crisis FAQ and jot down some notes for your sitters before you trip. "No matter what I say, NO POLICE, NO HOSPITAL" "Worst case: Just tie me down" etc..

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