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Pure Evil Drugs
    #6689603 - 03/19/07 10:29 PM (17 years, 13 days ago)

Ok so i was reading this other thread and it involved meth. Infact it was one of the news articles. Anyways the dicussion ended up turning to how meth isnt really all horrible, its just the people, impurity, etc no need to spell it all out agin.

Anyways, someone mentioned pcp, and it got me thinking, if you can make a case for meth not really being the gigantic evil its built to be, then where does pcp lie? is it still a defenant evil or does it have its own case, and what other drugs are just pure bad?

Im interested to hear opinions.

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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: bigtee212]
    #6689618 - 03/19/07 10:31 PM (17 years, 13 days ago)

Not necessarily evil, just destructive to body and mind.

I speak for PCP and meth when I say that.


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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: bigtee212]
    #6689635 - 03/19/07 10:35 PM (17 years, 13 days ago)

Meth = Evil. End of story. PCP>? I never even heard that one being around.
But Herion is evil too.

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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: Skunk420]
    #6689703 - 03/19/07 10:46 PM (17 years, 13 days ago)

see thats the point they are making. meth isnt too detremental to your body but the fact that sometime it inclines people to stay up forever and not do shit destroys them. i dunno i was pretty anti meth, but as with most things, after some research it appears to just be the people who use it. now the addictivity is of coursee another issue as well.

anyways, im just curious to hear every thought

oh ya, and as a personal choice id never touch any of these things, so im not looking for validation i should take them, because regardless of technicality it can really ruin lives, but in interested in all the techs.

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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: bigtee212]
    #6689724 - 03/19/07 10:49 PM (17 years, 13 days ago)

I'd be lying to everyone on this forum if I told you that methamphetamine isn't utterly horrible for your brain and body.

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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: bigtee212]
    #6689732 - 03/19/07 10:51 PM (17 years, 13 days ago)

you obviously dont know shit about drugs and addicition.

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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: Skunk420]
    #6689890 - 03/19/07 11:29 PM (17 years, 13 days ago)

Heh, drugs aren't evil until the day they start jumping down people's throats without consent.

Addiction can be a horrible thing. Disagreeing that a grouping of atoms is evil by nature has nothing to do with being uninformed about drugs and addiction.

Certain choices for certain (many even) people can be terrible, even evil by some people's standards.

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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #6689895 - 03/19/07 11:31 PM (17 years, 13 days ago)

Bring on the unconsensual dope!

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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: Schwip]
    #6689905 - 03/19/07 11:34 PM (17 years, 13 days ago)

We all know pot is.:rolleyes:


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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: Brainiac]
    #6690071 - 03/20/07 12:17 AM (17 years, 13 days ago)

i think if you have self control and arent addicted it isnt really evil.

once you cross the line and become dependent and the drug starts messing with your body and mind, then i believe it becomes pure evil.

meth = evil
ive never met one single person that is in total control of the drug without any trace of dependency


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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: Jdub123]
    #6690083 - 03/20/07 12:20 AM (17 years, 13 days ago)

i have been addicted to meth

i do not recommend it

i would say it is evil


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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: Jdub123]
    #6690092 - 03/20/07 12:21 AM (17 years, 13 days ago)

I had an eightball of meth at one time, I made it last a whole month from controlled use.
I am a rare exception I guess, it was killer meth too, but I had a constant supply of weed.

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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: Skunk420]
    #6690097 - 03/20/07 12:24 AM (17 years, 13 days ago)

I'd rather just avoid meth altogether. There are just some things that you don't try "just one time" in life.

As long as weed, LSD, and shrooms are in existence, I think I'll be alright.

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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: vigilant_mind]
    #6690108 - 03/20/07 12:27 AM (17 years, 13 days ago)

just try Extacy instead. I had it twice and it rocks!

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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: Skunk420]
    #6690114 - 03/20/07 12:28 AM (17 years, 13 days ago)

alcohol, grass, and a good healthy bi-annual psychedelic freakout


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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: FL_accciD]
    #6690118 - 03/20/07 12:29 AM (17 years, 13 days ago)

With LSD as the exception, I stick to use of only natural drugs.

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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: Skunk420]
    #6690121 - 03/20/07 12:30 AM (17 years, 13 days ago)

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Meth = Evil. End of story. PCP>? I never even heard that one being around.
But Herion is evil too.




Let's not forget coke and it's evil twin crack. Pure unadulterated evil.  :satan:

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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: FL_accciD]
    #6690127 - 03/20/07 12:31 AM (17 years, 13 days ago)

why only twice? I did LSD once a week for a month. plus I have done shrooms 3 times in a month, in the past.

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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: Le_Canard]
    #6690131 - 03/20/07 12:31 AM (17 years, 13 days ago)

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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: Skunk420]
    #6690137 - 03/20/07 12:33 AM (17 years, 13 days ago)

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why only twice? I did LSD once a week for a month. plus I have done shrooms 3 times in a month, in the past.



i used to trip that frequently

dont get me wrong, i still LOVE hallucinating.

ive just naturally paced myself a bit more these last couple of years.

2 times and two times only isnt really what i meant. sometimes 3 or 4. i just dont hallucinate 4 times a month anymore


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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: bigtee212]
    #6690153 - 03/20/07 12:38 AM (17 years, 13 days ago)

dxm can be an evil drug if abused.
i was addicted which led to an almost fatal overdose.
as a result i experienced many months of depression and lots of things ruined for me and now have double vision when i look to my left.


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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: FL_accciD]
    #6690175 - 03/20/07 12:43 AM (17 years, 13 days ago)

nah I never tripped that much recently, that was over 10 years ago, and times i did a lot of shrooms, that was last summertime.

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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: Skunk420]
    #6690178 - 03/20/07 12:44 AM (17 years, 13 days ago)

last time i tripped was aussie floyd...that was in november

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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: FL_accciD]
    #6690192 - 03/20/07 12:50 AM (17 years, 13 days ago)

H, meth, pcp (is that even around anymore?), coke can be evil, dautra aka moon flower, dramamine abuse, other opium based drugs can get bad..


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    #6690229 - 03/20/07 01:08 AM (17 years, 13 days ago)

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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: pB0t]
    #6690399 - 03/20/07 02:12 AM (17 years, 13 days ago)

coke, crack and meth..


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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: FL_accciD]
    #6690406 - 03/20/07 02:14 AM (17 years, 13 days ago)

Dude drop some lucy was peaking on a guitar solo let a groan come out fucking weird mad gay. I realized but then i was just melting with everything. HAHA I still remember the reaction of the people, somehow.

I am still wondering if their smoke effect were that badass or it was me in enhancd mode.


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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: learning_byte]
    #6690451 - 03/20/07 02:42 AM (17 years, 13 days ago)

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Dude drop some lucy was peaking on a guitar solo let a groan come out fucking weird mad gay. I realized but then i was just melting with everything. HAHA I still remember the reaction of the people, somehow.

I am still wondering if their smoke effect were that badass or it was me in enhancd mode.




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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #6690595 - 03/20/07 06:01 AM (17 years, 13 days ago)

there is no positive thing about meth. End of story.

It's a money maker to those who make it, who have no interest in the well being of their customers.
It wrecks the lives of those who choose to use it. It has no health benefits, it causes violence, crime, prison populations to rise, death, violent fights, serious crime and a problem for our children.

there is no positive effect, it has novaluable place in our society.

Meth is pure evil, look how much trouble its caused... and look how much death, violence, loss of lives lsd and shrooms have caused?

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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: indica]
    #6690919 - 03/20/07 10:04 AM (17 years, 13 days ago)

LOl my bad i was goign to say that i went to see the Aussie Floyd too, and dropped some lucy aand that happened.

hehe what a mess I was when a wrote that.

I think alcohol is evil, it can be hell for a lor of people.


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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: learning_byte]
    #6690958 - 03/20/07 10:27 AM (17 years, 13 days ago)

There is no such thing as an evil drug, since drugs are inanimate objects. People may make bad decisions while taking certain drugs or become addicted to them, but that doesn't make the drug evil.

Personal responsibility = key

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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: indica]
    #6690996 - 03/20/07 10:50 AM (17 years, 13 days ago)

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there is no positive thing about meth. End of story.

It's a money maker to those who make it, who have no interest in the well being of their customers.
It wrecks the lives of those who choose to use it. It has no health benefits, it causes violence, crime, prison populations to rise, death, violent fights, serious crime and a problem for our children.

there is no positive effect, it has novaluable place in our society.

Meth is pure evil, look how much trouble its caused... and look how much death, violence, loss of lives lsd and shrooms have caused?



I tend to agree with everything here...except...I wouldn't restrict it to just simply meth on this one - I'd throw in that whole fucken family of drugs

ever notice how crackheads are fucken famous for spending their social security checks an shit to support their habbit? they're getting kicked out of a new appartment every other month because they can't pay their rent, cause that whole $20 two second head rush of theirs is apparently more important then a roof over their head or food in their belly

or what about the violent outbursts that cokeheads are famous for? remember all those stories about bands from back in the day where the lead singer would stomp the shit outta one of his fans for apparently saying the wrong damn thing to em after the show...I guarantee you coke was a fucken key factor in pretty much every god damn one of those instances

uppers in general tend to put people on the fucken edge, and most people (despite the dellusions they're always clinging to) can't fucken handle the intensity









I'm sorry but if a good 98% of the people that take this particular type of drug continuously wind up in these sort of situations where they're hurting themselves / the people around them / or their environment...and I'd say you can't just puss it off as "well, some people just can't handle it" - you gotta accept the fact that the drugs themselves are indeed fucken dirty

that 2% that is the exception shouldn't be enough to glorify the substance (or that whole class of substances, for that matter)


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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: bigtee212]
    #6691256 - 03/20/07 12:20 PM (17 years, 12 days ago)

"A drug is neither moral nor immoral... it is a chemical"

-I forget who said that but I read it somewhere


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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: CUBErt]
    #6691282 - 03/20/07 12:28 PM (17 years, 12 days ago)

and some are mearly 'chemicals' that bring out the immorality of the poeple that partake in them  :craven:


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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: Skunk420]
    #6691367 - 03/20/07 12:53 PM (17 years, 12 days ago)

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just try Extacy instead. I had it twice and it rocks!




Are you aware that a large percentage of ecstasy is cut with meth? It's not exactly a viable alternative...

If I could find pure MDMA, I would try it. But I will never put any roll in my body that could have meth, other RC's, or whatever other shit those assholes feel like cutting it with.

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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: joker_man]
    #6691426 - 03/20/07 01:10 PM (17 years, 12 days ago)

Who's says a drug isn't immoral, who says that morality even exists other than in ones own individual interpretation. To me morals exist only as a social means, we are no more significant than dirt, or any other inanimate object. But Meth's potential for self destruction is like 98% going to happen if you use this drug for its supposed intended purpose for any lengthy period. And there is no real way to gage responsible use of it. Yes a poison is just a poison but at least when you take a poison you know your done for, its not disguised as some type euphoric experience when actually it send you through hell.

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    #6691447 - 03/20/07 01:16 PM (17 years, 12 days ago)

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just try Extacy instead. I had it twice and it rocks!




Are you aware that a large percentage of ecstasy is cut with meth? It's not exactly a viable alternative...

If I could find pure MDMA, I would try it. But I will never put any roll in my body that could have meth, other RC's, or whatever other shit those assholes feel like cutting it with.




Tis true that much X is cut with meth. but pure MDMA is pretty safe, and not all MDMA is cut with meth. I'd check it out to see if it acutally is, if it is I'd wouldn't buy those pills neither, cause I can't really handle any meth. at this point, but people who have never taken meth. a little cut meth. isn't going to do much, although that is the unhealthy aspect of X.

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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: joker_man]
    #6691475 - 03/20/07 01:22 PM (17 years, 12 days ago)

Meth is nasty these days. The fact that it is smoked and impure; it literally destroys your face while it destroys your body and your life. I would not be totally opposed to oral amphetamines plus grass, however. I've heard that in the right state of head the perk and the stone can get you to an ecstatic LSD-like place.

In general though, I much prefer the natural drugs.


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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: aelephant]
    #6692336 - 03/20/07 05:54 PM (17 years, 12 days ago)

man weed n speed are the best combo ever


ive never done meth

but ive done adderal and i know that is the MOST EVIL drug ive done. I Love it. I dont do it anyone cuz it feels too bad for me, but damn its good chillin till like 4-5am with perfect energy and never being burnt out.

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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: POTtismGOD]
    #6692342 - 03/20/07 05:56 PM (17 years, 12 days ago)

I've never done meth either, but I dreamed of smoking meth today
It had no effect whatsoever and I thought I was ripped off.:lol:


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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: Individual]
    #6692376 - 03/20/07 06:07 PM (17 years, 12 days ago)

i dont care what you all do with your body

personally, nothing about meth appeals to me. maybe if was in a sitution where i had to fight of a surge of robots or angry midgets id use it.

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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: moon_glue]
    #6692391 - 03/20/07 06:11 PM (17 years, 12 days ago)

I stick to mind-enhancing, not mind killing. A little weed here and there, and a rare LSD/Mush trip is all I need.

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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: Skunk420]
    #6692406 - 03/20/07 06:15 PM (17 years, 12 days ago)

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But Herion is evil too.




Heroin**


Ya I guess that's why people with terminal illnesses get Heroin when morphine in no longer effective enough right?(Europe)

It's a great medicine, people shouldn't abuse it. Simple as that. Heroin is actually incredibly non toxic, and it's chronic constipation that really messes up "junkies."
That, and dirty needle practice.
Look I know some people are speaking loosely, but come on evil drugs? fuck off. There is no such thing as an "evil" drug. Just proper and improper use.

Personally I don't think we were meant to have something like meth around, but that doesn't make it fucking evil.
OMG!!!.... Satan dances in a pipe! :lol:

Meth is no more evil then salt.


Don't fuck you life up with either of them, and take responsibility for your own lives people,
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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #6692534 - 03/20/07 07:01 PM (17 years, 12 days ago)

if you guys say meth is evil...referring to the homemade crystal that anyone can make...what about other amphetamines? adderall? dexedrine? MDMA?


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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: HeadTripVertigo]
    #6692557 - 03/20/07 07:05 PM (17 years, 12 days ago)

there is this drug that they would give to children in africa so they would fight their wars for them. its called brown brown -a mixture of meth, coke, and gun powder:eek:
pretty evil if you ask me.


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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: bigtee212]
    #6692634 - 03/20/07 07:26 PM (17 years, 12 days ago)

I never heard of anything good coming from Datura.


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    #6692716 - 03/20/07 07:44 PM (17 years, 12 days ago)

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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: Ferris]
    #6692729 - 03/20/07 07:46 PM (17 years, 12 days ago)

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Inhaled gunpowder invokes violent behavior when snorted from what I hear (only a certain kind). Mix that with a drug like meth or coke that raise your dopamine levels like crazy and your looking at some pretty pissed off, hyper kids with guns. That can't be good.





Didn't the africans snort gunpowder/coke before they went to fight in that one movie with Nick Cage? What the fuck was the name?...damnit! He sold guns and shit.

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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: Redstorm]
    #6692730 - 03/20/07 07:47 PM (17 years, 12 days ago)

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There is no such thing as an evil drug, since drugs are inanimate objects. People may make bad decisions while taking certain drugs or become addicted to them, but that doesn't make the drug evil.

Personal responsibility = key




jesus, thanks for a bit of sensibility :thumbup:

everything can have its place/time/purpose if used appropriately


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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: joker_man]
    #6692733 - 03/20/07 07:48 PM (17 years, 12 days ago)

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Ferris said:
Inhaled gunpowder invokes violent behavior when snorted from what I hear (only a certain kind). Mix that with a drug like meth or coke that raise your dopamine levels like crazy and your looking at some pretty pissed off, hyper kids with guns. That can't be good.





Didn't the africans snort gunpowder/coke before they went to fight in that one movie with Nick Cage? What the fuck was the name?...damnit! He sold guns and shit.




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Re: Pure Evil Drugs [Re: Ferris]
    #6692768 - 03/20/07 07:52 PM (17 years, 12 days ago)

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Ferris said:
Inhaled gunpowder invokes violent behavior when snorted from what I hear (only a certain kind). Mix that with a drug like meth or coke that raise your dopamine levels like crazy and your looking at some pretty pissed off, hyper kids with guns. That can't be good.

Anyways, meth/coke/whatever are nothing more than glorified coffee if you ask me. It's just a hell of a lot harder to drink enough coffee to get that much effect. It's the user, not the drug, that is stupid. Amphetamines have potential in certain forms imo, but the average joe should have a doctor or someone as knowledgeable monitoring the use.



yeah that and they would kill you if you didnt fight.


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