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what if my cakes DID NOT COMpletely colonize
    #6686477 - 03/19/07 09:07 AM (17 years, 14 days ago)

I was just wondering what would happen if i took my cakes out for fruiting and they were not completely colonized in the jars may be like 90 percent - 95 percent done. what would happen? Could they still pin-> also what is a good receipe for verm? store bought ? Thanks!

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Re: what if my cakes DID NOT COMpletely colonize [Re: cox2y]
    #6686489 - 03/19/07 09:14 AM (17 years, 14 days ago)

On the 1-st question - wait until they are 100% colonized! If they do not colonize 100% there is a reason for this - usually contamination. When you expose them to open air (fruiting conditions) this contamination (and others) will set in/spread more easily.
There is a chance that they are stalled because of CO2 buildup, and in this case they may colonize fully when taken out of the jars, but this is not a very likely scenario if you did things right in the first place.
So - WAIT.

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Re: what if my cakes DID NOT COMpletely colonize [Re: cox2y]
    #6686496 - 03/19/07 09:17 AM (17 years, 14 days ago)

yes they will still pin but it will just take longer.
Just have a bit of pateince.
they will probly be at 100% in another day or 2.
you can use either this http://www.shroomery.org/55/60-40-Vermiculite-and-Coco-Coir-Casing-Tek
or you can go with straight 100% verm.
if you're just gonna do the cakes with no case do a dunk and roll in the verm.

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Re: what if my cakes DID NOT COMpletely colonize [Re: Baph]
    #6686506 - 03/19/07 09:23 AM (17 years, 14 days ago)

they'll pin fine in my friend's experience. he has had a decent flush even with stalled colonization at 80%.


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Re: what if my cakes DID NOT COMpletely colonize [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #6686546 - 03/19/07 09:57 AM (17 years, 14 days ago)

Just wait for 100%. Why risk contamination just to hurry a few days?


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Re: what if my cakes DID NOT COMpletely colonize [Re: boatshow]
    #6686724 - 03/19/07 11:29 AM (17 years, 14 days ago)

Wait for full colonization plus one week. They won't pin for that week anyway, so allow them to stay in the jars and conserve mosture during that week after full colonization while the mycelium is consolidating its hold on the substrate. That will make the difference between one or two fruits and a whole bundle. Most people who get shitty pinsets with pf cakes birth the first day they see the jar all white, which is a huge mistake.
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Re: what if my cakes DID NOT COMpletely colonize [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #6687242 - 03/19/07 01:51 PM (17 years, 13 days ago)

The reason I was asking is because i have full pint jars and they are completely colonized I accutly had to wait an extra week or two becuase i was on spring break. After we got back everything looked good so i started to fruit- its been one week and one day no pins, i have light on them a couple hours of day, 2 air stones in cup of water, perlite on bottom, misting and air exchange. Ive heard that full pint jars may be the problem, or maybe i am just impatience. ha thanks anyway guysss!

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Re: what if my cakes DID NOT COMpletely colonize [Re: cox2y]
    #6687313 - 03/19/07 02:05 PM (17 years, 13 days ago)

What you describe now is almost the opposite of the question you started the thread with. In fact... it is a different question altogether.

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