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OfflineJustice_Fish
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No Salvia Breakthrough yet...
    #6673775 - 03/15/07 07:35 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

This is bugging me. I smoked salvia 3 times and I felt like I had no breakthrough. This means I only had a big body buzz, but no crazy visuals, open or closed eyes.

I don't have a major drug tolerance, but I'd like to know what am I doing wrong.

I try to take a big hit from the pipe, take a little oxygen too and then I hold it. The buzz comes up and I trip, but no breakthrough,
I have 10x and smoke like 0.1 gram (Wich is enough to give a big body buzz and Minor visuals).

What do I do wrong then? Should I smoke more? :shocked:


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Re: No Salvia Breakthrough yet... [Re: Justice_Fish]
    #6673784 - 03/15/07 07:37 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I'd say prolly take 2 or 3 hits, and just sit back and relax. I remember my first time smoking salvia - i needed 4 gb's until i felt anything :smirk:


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Re: No Salvia Breakthrough yet... [Re: Justice_Fish]
    #6673897 - 03/15/07 08:05 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Justice_Fish said:
I'd like to know what am I doing wrong.

I try to take a big hit from the pipe, take a little oxygen too and then I hold it. The buzz comes up and I trip, but no breakthrough,
I have 10x and smoke like 0.1 gram (Wich is enough to give a big body buzz and Minor visuals).

What do I do wrong then? Should I smoke more? :shocked:




i doubt u are doing anything wrong, just keep trying!

my best experiences came from doing this:

pack up a hit, hold it in deeply for 30+ seconds.  During this 30 seconds, you are emptying the bowl and packing a fresh hit.  As soon as you exhale, you take the next hit, no breath in between.

Do about 3 hits in a row, call me in the morning.


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Re: No Salvia Breakthrough yet... [Re: kotik]
    #6673922 - 03/15/07 08:11 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Yup, you'll probably need more hits of the herb... real big ones and hold them in. Try to keep the lighter right to the bowl the whole time of inhalation... the higher the temperature the better the oxidation of salvinorin. And if you're smoking out of a regular pipe, quite the shit and pull out the bong or steamroller. You probably won't be dissappointed again. If you've gotten ANY effects you've broken your tolerance and so a breakthrough can, and will be achieved if desired. This isn't pot, don't smoke it casually. It needs to be taken in just the right manner for it to have it's maximum effect.


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Re: No Salvia Breakthrough yet... [Re: emeryg89]
    #6673931 - 03/15/07 08:15 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

use a torch lighter, a bic will work okay, but a torch works much better. salvinorinA oxidizes much faster at higher temperatures


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Re: No Salvia Breakthrough yet... [Re: doitagain]
    #6673945 - 03/15/07 08:19 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I know what your doing wrong and its blatantly obvious. Keep smoking till you don't know where you are, why else would you stop?


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Re: No Salvia Breakthrough yet... [Re: Justice_Fish]
    #6674040 - 03/15/07 08:41 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

use a butane torch lighter and a bong.... get it all in one hit.... hold the hit for 30 seconds..... exhale... lay back....


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Re: No Salvia Breakthrough yet... [Re: CosmicFunGuy]
    #6674105 - 03/15/07 09:08 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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I know what your doing wrong and its blatantly obvious. Keep smoking till you don't know where you are, why else would you stop?



yeah dude, just keep hitting till you're gone. at some point it will happen. i use a regular pipe and a regular bic lighter and it works wonders for me.


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Re: No Salvia Breakthrough yet... [Re: maggotz]
    #6674130 - 03/15/07 09:18 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

It's well worth it to spend the 10 bucks for a torch at the gas station man.


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Re: No Salvia Breakthrough yet... [Re: maggotz]
    #6674152 - 03/15/07 09:24 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

you're all crazy, I've never needed more than one hit of salvia for a breakthrough.... if it takes you more than one hit of an extract..... you're doing something wrong.... that is using a bic lighter
bics do not reach the necessary temperatures to turn the active alkaloid salvinorin-A into an inhalable vapor fast enough... you have to hold the lighter there longer than you can inhale to get it hot enough... so you dont actually get a hit til the second and third hits and you are wasting most of it. These are facts, yes a bic will work but it takes many hits and is a waste, being wasteful is stupid and stupidity is what gives drug users bad names... a butane torch lighter reaches the temperature very quickly and a bong with some cold water helps with salvias taste (many people do not like, although i don't mind) as well as makes it easier to take the dose in one hit....

on a side note, it's often common for users not to break through their first few trys....;)

Good luck.


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lyrics from: Transglobal Underground - Eyeway Souljah (from Psychic Karaoke)


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Re: No Salvia Breakthrough yet... [Re: CosmicFunGuy]
    #6674179 - 03/15/07 09:36 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i wouldn't consider myself stupid, and i'm definitely not wasting it. here's how i do it:
1. fill up the pipe
2. put on the bic lighter over the salvia for like 2 or 3 seconds
3. then start pulling.
that's it, one hit usually does it for me although sometimes i manage to take a second and once i took a third. perhaps the butane lighter works better but the regular ones do too.


Edited by maggotz (03/15/07 09:37 PM)


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Re: No Salvia Breakthrough yet... [Re: CosmicFunGuy]
    #6674195 - 03/15/07 09:42 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Ganymede said:
you're all crazy, I've never needed more than one hit of salvia for a breakthrough.... if it takes you more than one hit of an extract..... you're doing something wrong....




wrong, everyones different. some people can smoke a pinch of leaf and wig out while others can smoke a whole bowl of 20x. it depends on persons tolerance, what extract they are smoking, how much they are smoking, how far they want to go and how they are smoking it. There are different levels of salvia i find them all very different but now all i can go to is the last one, complete ego death on the way there and on the way back.


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Re: No Salvia Breakthrough yet... [Re: maggotz]
    #6674199 - 03/15/07 09:43 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I'm always too out of it to take more than one hit.


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Re: No Salvia Breakthrough yet... [Re: Hix]
    #6674330 - 03/15/07 10:11 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

so many guides to smoking salvia,
People need to stop bringing this plant to attention


I know,its already too late...


One full hit,close eyes, hold for 30 seconds (at least), and you will not notice the transition for but a few seconds.(dont fight it)

oh, and if your reasons are not in the right direction (haven't read post not flaming) she just doesn't like some people, or just doe not work.


Usually take at least 3-5 times for a new novice tho.Be careful and dont get in the news. Dont move a muscle the entire time.Its more of a world inside your head that turns into your new reality for the next 10000 years and you have known this place forever by now and know nothing of your previous existance in a place called earth unless your rel-iving a childhood experience.

anything can and will happen,let go is the easiest best advice.


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Re: No Salvia Breakthrough yet... [Re: kija]
    #6674446 - 03/15/07 10:36 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Very helpful guys!!
Thanks kija too, these are good tips.

I'll try to have a better setting this time. I'll be with my friend, we'll light up some incense and candles. We will put some Shpongle or Donovan or even Jefferson Airplane on the 360 and let go the music and the Visualisations.

Wish me luck, I'll do this the 30th!!


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Re: No Salvia Breakthrough yet... [Re: Justice_Fish]
    #6675044 - 03/16/07 12:49 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

your doing it all wrong!!!!! lol no not really but your are doing some things wrong, i personally love salvia and everytime i have had great visuals off 10x first i got super stoned then you MUST load a FAT bowl and you MUST use a bong...no other option i used a bubbler and it worked pretty well and a pipe which didnt work...so fat bowl, bong, fat hit, super stoned and you should be set, im about to go smoke some myself actually so good luck to you and wish me good luck!


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Re: No Salvia Breakthrough yet... [Re: StonedTestBunys1]
    #6677092 - 03/16/07 04:27 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Ahah good luck and by now you should have tripped! Hoped this was a nice trip!


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Re: No Salvia Breakthrough yet... [Re: Justice_Fish]
    #6678366 - 03/16/07 11:15 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

justice_fish,

I've found as many others have reported in the past, that music distracts me from a salvia trip... that total silence works better... i'm not saying this for all tripping, just salvia.


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Re: No Salvia Breakthrough yet... [Re: CosmicFunGuy]
    #6678384 - 03/16/07 11:21 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Ganymede said:
you're all crazy, I've never needed more than one hit of salvia for a breakthrough.... if it takes you more than one hit of an extract..... you're doing something wrong.... that is using a bic lighter
bics do not reach the necessary temperatures to turn the active alkaloid salvinorin-A into an inhalable vapor fast enough... you have to hold the lighter there longer than you can inhale to get it hot enough... so you dont actually get a hit til the second and third hits and you are wasting most of it. These are facts, yes a bic will work but it takes many hits and is a waste, being wasteful is stupid and stupidity is what gives drug users bad names... a butane torch lighter reaches the temperature very quickly and a bong with some cold water helps with salvias taste (many people do not like, although i don't mind) as well as makes it easier to take the dose in one hit....

on a side note, it's often common for users not to break through their first few trys....;)

Good luck.




I use a bic and a regular pipe and one hit of 10x makes me forget where I am, shit starts talking to me, and I get pretty major visuals.


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Re: No Salvia Breakthrough yet... [Re: ictoasnrnsigwt]
    #6678401 - 03/16/07 11:24 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i find music rather annoying


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