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InvisibleDisco Cat
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Tor/Privoxy does nothing?
    #6672850 - 03/15/07 01:25 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe I don't understand this program and what it's supposed to do, or even don't have it set up right, but Privoxy is enabled and Tor is running all the time on my comp.

Yesterday I received an email from my internet provider, just as a warning, telling me that I downloaded an Inconvenient Truth.

I thought this program was supposed to keep your ip from being read, am I wrong?

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Re: Tor/Privoxy does nothing? [Re: Disco Cat]
    #6673357 - 03/15/07 03:33 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

This program should be easily testable by the admins of this site, since our ip #'s are attatched to all our posts, afaik. If the ip attatched to our posts keeps showing up as the same one then the prog isn't doing anything, if it keeps changing then it's doing what it's supposed to.

I just clicked "new identity" under "view network" from the Tor app, which I never did before. Maybe it will now make a change.

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Re: Tor/Privoxy does nothing? [Re: Disco Cat]
    #6673380 - 03/15/07 03:38 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

One thing you need to remember is that those programs are for encrypting and rerouting http connections. As far as I know they don't do anything with UDP and other protocols such as those used by P2P and filesharing programs.

I could be wrong but it's my understanding that they will only protect web browsing and not other types of internet activity.


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Re: Tor/Privoxy does nothing? [Re: Disco Cat]
    #6673730 - 03/15/07 05:19 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

tor with privoxy will anonymize your web browsing, but that is all. the tor network has far too little bandwidth to support p2p services.


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Re: Tor/Privoxy does nothing? [Re: wilshire]
    #6674061 - 03/15/07 06:47 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

You can enter your Tor proxy address in your filesharing programs as well. Many BitTorrent clients will take one.

But you shouldn't do it because, #1 your downloads will be very slow, and #2 you will eat alot of bandwidth, slowing down other people. Tor's website discourages you from doing this, but I guess it's up to you in the end.

You *could* show more respect for intellectual property rights, lol...

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Re: Tor/Privoxy does nothing? [Re: Taharka]
    #6674087 - 03/15/07 07:00 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I'm too broke to pay to learn about what I can do to save the planet :frown:

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Re: Tor/Privoxy does nothing? [Re: Disco Cat]
    #6704485 - 03/23/07 09:11 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Ok, Tor/Privoxy is doing nothing.

http://www.ip-adress.com/

This site, and all other ip identification sites show me that my ip is not being hidden.

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Re: Tor/Privoxy does nothing? [Re: Disco Cat]
    #6704917 - 03/23/07 11:35 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

You have it set up way wrong. I used to use both, and they do work. Privoxy must be configured to route traffic over Tor, and firefox must be set up to route traffic into Privoxy.

If your bittorrent client supports proxies, that must be set as well. Tor does not just take any and all internet traffic and route it over the network.

Also, tor is sloooooooow. You're not going to get much accomplished if you leave it on all the time.

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Re: Tor/Privoxy does nothing? [Re: toastdth]
    #6705072 - 03/24/07 12:59 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Im not looking to have it work for downloads, I'm just focusing on browsing.
I've gone through all the settings and I'm not aware of anything that would be blocking its functioning.

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Re: Tor/Privoxy does nothing? [Re: Disco Cat]
    #6705099 - 03/24/07 01:12 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Troubleshooting:

First, turn off both tor and privoxy. Make sure firefox won't correct to anything. If it does, you don't have firefox set up properly.

Then, turn on privoxy without tor configured. Firefox should suddenly start working.

Then, configure privoxy to use the turned-off tor. Nothing should work again. Turn it on, everything should suddenly start to work.

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Re: Tor/Privoxy does nothing? [Re: toastdth]
    #6705390 - 03/24/07 02:55 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Hmm, do I need Firefox to use Tor? I'm using IE.

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Re: Tor/Privoxy does nothing? [Re: Disco Cat]
    #6705397 - 03/24/07 02:59 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Let me get this straight.

You're just running the torpark program, or some other program, and expecting every application you connect to the internet with to be proxied and hidden and protected?

Maybe I don't understand this correctly.


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Re: Tor/Privoxy does nothing? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #6705417 - 03/24/07 03:06 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I didn't have torpack installed, I'd downloaded a tor/privoxy/vidalia bundle from a different site. I've downloaded torpack now tho.

The site I'd downloaded from was http://tor.eff.org/index.html.en

There's this warning there now:
"Warning: Want Tor to really work?
...then please don't just install it and go on. You need to change some of your habits, and reconfigure your software! Tor by itself is NOT all you need to maintain your anonymity.
"
But I don't know if that was there when I downloaded it a while ago. I can't imagine any way that I'd've missed it if it had .

Thanks for the info, toastdth and others.

Edited by Disco Cat (03/24/07 03:29 AM)

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Re: Tor/Privoxy does nothing? [Re: Disco Cat]
    #6706011 - 03/24/07 10:50 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I don't mean to insult your intelligence, Disco Cat, but you *did* put your proxy's address and port in the box on the connection settings page of your web browser, right? If yes, and your internet connection works, is Privoxy configured to use Tor?

I pulled this
Quote:

# To chain Privoxy and Tor, both running on the same system,
# you should use the rule:
#
forward-socks4a / localhost:9050 .



from Privoxy's configuration file "config.txt" . I don't know if your setup would be different, but you should have something like this in your own file. And if Privoxy is meant to be used with Tor from the beginning, it should just be a matter of uncommenting the "forward-socks" line by deleting any # symbol in front of it.

Edited by Taharka (03/24/07 11:14 AM)

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Re: Tor/Privoxy does nothing? [Re: Taharka]
    #6709831 - 03/25/07 02:39 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

No, I didn't do that. I'm gonna try it out tho.

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Re: Tor/Privoxy does nothing? [Re: Disco Cat]
    #6710256 - 03/25/07 05:18 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

What didn't you try, the proxy address in the browser settings, or the Privoxy configuration edit?

Either way, did it work?

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