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strangladesh
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Re: Is this web site Illegal? [Re: fastfred]
#6680845 - 03/17/07 04:34 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have to assume people posting pictures are out of this country.
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djnoktirnal
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Re: Is this web site Illegal? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#6681365 - 03/17/07 07:09 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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the post was way too long to quote, but i have told cops, and superiors when i was in the military, of crimes i have committed. I have never been arrested or in any legal trouble. Cops don't care what you tell them you did in the past. Unless that happens to be rape or murder or some other violent act. Police need proof to arrest you, and they have to be within the statute of limitations for whatever law you broke. In most cases if you tell a cop or anyone in authority to arrest you that you broke some law in the past, they will only tell you not to do it again... if the do anything at all.
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Koala Koolio
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Re: Is this web site Illegal? [Re: djnoktirnal]
#6682560 - 03/18/07 03:07 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you want to keep yourself completely safe, you don't do anything that would jeopardize your security. This means no posting of things you've done, plan to do, pictures, etc. And also, apparently not helping someone who has shown the intention of commiting a crime, or suggesting that they do so, though providing 'as-is' information itself should be okay. Right?
If you simply want to feel safe (and at least at this point in time, for all practical purposes be safe), avoid posting pictures of pounds of substances, hundreds of pills, a dozen sheets of blotter, etc. (People do this regularly, though). Don't stand out above the crowd, use proxies/tor. Convince yourself that there is security in being in the masses of people here, with an administration that has no intention of revealing personal information, but makes absolutely no promise that they won't do so.
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Koala Koolio
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Re: Is this web site Illegal? [Re: Koala Koolio]
#6683859 - 03/18/07 02:22 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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You know, as long as people are posting pictures like this:


The rest of us have nothing to worry about. It's like the canary miners would take into the mines to see if there was a fatal amount of gas present. Bird dies first.
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Re: Is this web site Illegal? [Re: Koala Koolio]
#6691545 - 03/20/07 01:45 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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If we're telling someone to commit a crime, we try to do as wisely as we can, so people wouldn't have to suffer under consequences of unawareness.
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Koala Koolio
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Re: Is this web site Illegal? [Re: Individual]
#6692505 - 03/20/07 06:50 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Right. A morally sound argument, to me, and most here. But not legally, perhaps.
To me, there are certain laws which we perhaps step over that makes things theoretically risky. Some people's wording in the vendor section and marketplace bother me, and the point about suggesting for an illegal act to be commited is interesting as well. But so far, rules here such as no illegal trades, and reasonable regulation of dosage/availability discussion has kept things calm around here. A good balance, for now at least.
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guitarguy0123
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Re: Is this web site Illegal? [Re: Koala Koolio]
#6701215 - 03/22/07 10:02 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Actually makaveli8x8, there have been plenty of cases where people admit to crimes and they don't get convicted. There has to be some kind of evidence. If I said I stole a rocket, they can't convict me on my word alone.
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makaveli8x8
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purhaps your currect guitar, however they are going to give you anal cavity searching for MONTHS until they are sure you don't have a rocket
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Re: Is this web site Illegal? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#6703012 - 03/23/07 01:00 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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donkers5257
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Makaveli is right. If the authorities wanted to burn the Shroomery, they could. Not without throwing a LOT of money at the case and catching flak from a lot of civil right advocacy groups, but it could happen.
That's the thing about law, the "truth of the matter" is whatever a lawyer (and there are a few talented prosecutors out there) can make it seem. I don't doubt they could point at the vast array of posts where people give advice about a grow in progress (especially if there are pics involved) and call it conspiracy, or aiding/abetting... whatever. Is it likely? No. It would be hard as hell to get a conviction of any given individual user for conspiracy charges, because it would be hard to make conspiracy or accessory to a crime stick if there was no evidence that a crime was committed. (Though it can and has been done, but I doubt it would be all that do-able with anything that goes on here) They'd have to take down a grow and have physical evidence, then be able to show that another user had knowledge about the grow and contributed to furtherment of the crime. If they provided a print to someone they knew was growing that would make it easy to get an accessory charge. But like I said, it's unlikely they would waste the resources prosecuting individual cases, especially with conspiracy or accessory charges.
But I wouldn't doubt the authorities could pull the plug on the Shroomery if they wanted, legally. It wouldn't be cheap but not nearly as expensive as trying to get criminal convictions on individual users. If they ever go after the shroomery, what I would be worried about is that they don't stop (or start) with taking it down, they might be able to get a subpoena to confiscate the server and then log all the IP addresses. I imagine THEN, providing they were able to orchestrate it quickly, they could raid some of the larger growers.
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Re: Is this web site Illegal? [Re: donkers5257]
#6728544 - 03/30/07 03:03 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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No, if the authorities wanted to they could burn MEMBERS of the Shroomery, but the Shroomery itself is not illegal. Even if convicting someone of a crime because they told them to grow shrooms, not just how, is possible (I have no clue if it is or not), the Shroomery doesn't do it, the members do. I'm pretty sure the Shroomery is safe as a website, but what some of the members here post is really stupid.
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