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aussie poison - what kind??
    #663377 - 06/04/02 11:19 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

OK, I'm pretty definate on these being poisonous, but what kind does anyone know??

They have a superficial similarity to the subs pics which JJ put up, which is why I noticed em at all, but on closer inspection obvoiusly not.....but what are they??


stains orange......


tan/brown gills are a no-no, right??


caps looked similar shape from a distance.....




the bunch + bark.....


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Re: aussie poison - what kind?? [Re: ruskifile]
    #663434 - 06/05/02 01:36 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Im not actually sure what they are - but they are very common around Melb as well - they will give you bad diaherra if ingested - a couple of guys i know of got rather sick from those as they tend to grow near Psilocybes and can be mistaken if your picking drunk at night apparently.


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Re: aussie poison - what kind?? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #663464 - 06/05/02 03:02 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, that's what I thought too......bit too dangerously similar if you're pissed.....!


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Re: aussie poison - what kind?? [Re: ruskifile]
    #663490 - 06/05/02 04:07 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

They are Dermocybe phoenicea, a non edible species. Sometimes listed as a Cortinarius.

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Re: aussie poison - what kind?? [Re: ruskifile]
    #664336 - 06/05/02 02:49 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

not to doubt mj but those look a lot like Naematoloma aurantiaca. the ones i've found (west coast usa) grow on wood debris like the caramel capped Psilocybes.
check the color plates in david aurora's mushrooms demystified for a picture.
spores will be dark purplish brown to black if it's a Naematoloma, brown if it's a Cortinarius.


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Re: aussie poison - what kind?? [Re: mikeofyle]
    #664414 - 06/05/02 03:56 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

mikeofyle , look at the gill plates of his pictures posted above. No way woudl those produce dark prints. but more of a chocolate color brown. I still think it is a dermocybe. I have seen many varieties of Naematoloma.

Anyway I have been wrong before but it is not a psychoactive species.,

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There are hundreds of these in Seattle too.


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Re: aussie poison - what kind?? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #665003 - 06/05/02 10:01 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Hey thanks so much mj and mikeofyle very interesting......and that was pretty quick too!

......If I might venture a guess I would say that mj is right here; I doubt very much that the prints from these would be anything but the brown he suggests, the gills are really quite light tan in colour.......

(at least if I can't eat em i like to know what there are .....so thanks!)


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Re: aussie poison - what kind?? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #665063 - 06/06/02 12:21 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I find those shrooms everywhere and I also noticed they grow around the Subs. I could imagin how one when drunk could get confused they have similiar proportions accept for the colour.


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Re: aussie poison - what kind?? [Re: aussishroomhead]
    #665072 - 06/06/02 01:07 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Aussieshroomhed,

P. aeruginosa caps are a chestnut color and the stems are pure white and stain blu.

The mushrooms above have a yellowish stem or yellow-whitish stem and they do not stain blue.


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Re: aussie poison - what kind?? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #665090 - 06/06/02 01:56 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah they are different colours, but if you picking in low light and your drunk well you never know what can happen.
Initial results are back MJ - the wavy cap has brown Cystidia - looks like its Subaeruginosa! Your right again!


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