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Brit reminds Europe of ‘a world without America’
    #6631107 - 03/03/07 10:58 AM (17 years, 30 days ago)

Kathleen Antrim: Brit reminds Europe of ‘a world without America’

Kathleen Antrim, The Examiner
Feb 28, 2007 3:00 AM (4 hrs ago)
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WASHINGTON - Anti-Americanism is spreading around the globe. Using myths, disinformation and ignorance, America’s enemies are doing a fair job at defaming our country from both within our borders and abroad.

As Americans we’ve never claimed to be perfect, and like everything else in this world we certainly do have our faults. Fortunately, there are still those who know the truth and aren’t swayed by nasty rhetoric. Some of these friends from across the Atlantic have taken to the internet in America’s defense.

18DoughtyStreet.com is Great Britain’s first political Web television station. The brainchild of Internet entrepreneur Stephan Shakespeare and a group of Britain’s most-popular bloggers, 18DoughtyStreet.com was created to combat the disinformation and biases perpetrated by the mainstream media.

Focused on the rising anti-Americanism, 18DoughtyStreet.com has launched a two-minute video at YouTube, which is being distributed across Britain and Europe via e-mail. The broadcast depicts a world without America.

“Through five fictional news reports from the 1950s onward sit portrays a world dominated by Soviet Russia and warns that much of the world’s prosperity and medical advances would have been lost,” explains Audrey Mullen of Advocacy Ink.

The opening caption of the video reads: “Imagine a world without America.” Then the script runs through a series of five scenes beginning in 1959. Dressed in a dinner suit, a man reads:

“You are watching the News from London. General Secretary Stalin was in France today to celebrate the 10th anniversary of the liberation of Paris by the Red Army. Organized crowds of young people sang the Soviet anthem as troops marched down the Champs Elysees.”

Then a caption appears: “A World Without America … Would Be A World With Less Freedom.” Of course, had Hitler prevailed the French would be speaking German, and the Champs Elysees may have been renamed Adolph Straße.

Scene two focuses on America’s contribution to medical science as the same presenter is featured in a flower-power suit. The caption reads 1969, and the presenter reports that, “Latest data from the British Department of Health show that deaths from polio rose again last year. The hunt for a vaccine continues.”

The vignette ends with the words: A World Without America … Would Be A World Without Many Medical Advances.

The video rolls into 1979, and the same gentleman is dressed in a brown suit with large lapels.

“Tonight the Mediterranean Sea is full of boats of Jewish refugees fleeing for their lives. Earlier in the day the poorly equipped and underfunded Israeli army was finally defeated and Arab combined forces — with Soviet air cover — entered Tel Aviv …” he reads.

A chilling line appears: A World Without America … Would Be A World Without Israel.

The presenter appears in a power suit for the 1989 segment.

“Arriving at today’s hunger summit in her ministerial,” he reads. “Lady Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher vowed to work with Austrian President Arnold Schwarzenegger in fighting increasing hunger across Asia.”

Although the reference to a “president” Schwarzenegger may garner a few chuckles, the ending verbiage hits the point: A World Without America … Would Be A Poorer World.

The final scene is set in 1999 with the same reporter. He’s dressed casually in an open shirt and jeans.

“At a Downing Street press conference earlier today the British Prime Minister said that President Saddam Hussein was a man he could do business with,” he casually states. “He was speaking after it was confirmed that the Revolutionary Republic of Iraq and Kuwait had acquired nuclear weapons.”

While one digests this statement, these words appear: A World Without America … Would Be A World Held To Ransom By Tyrants.

A collage of America’s many contributions to the world flash on the screen: A free Afghanistan; 40 percent of the world’s R&D; Free Taiwan; nylon; Elvis Presley; air conditioning; Marshall Plan; South Korea; democratic Nicaragua; typewriter; a free Japan; Protection of world trading routes; jazz; 50 percent of the world food programme; the motorcar; the liberation of the Falklands; Berlin Airlift; the bra; frozen food; Dishwasher; denim jeans; $15 billion HIV/AIDS programme; FM radio; Coca Cola; Free Haiti; supercomputer; and 26 percent of global aid spending.

And the video ends with: “A world without America. A world with more disease, more poverty, more danger.”

Tim Montgomerie, director of 18DoughtyStreet.com, said, “For much of the last 50 years, Europe has benefited from America’s security umbrella and from the dynamism of American enterprise and science.”

Yes, America does have its faults and we’ve never claimed to be perfect. But as this video points out, America is still the greatest force for good around the globe.

Examiner contributor Kathleen Antrim writes “Capital Offense” and is a correspondent for NewsMax Magazine.
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Re: Brit reminds Europe of ‘a world without America’ [Re: Luddite]
    #6631277 - 03/03/07 12:00 PM (17 years, 30 days ago)

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Luddite said:
But as this video points out, America is still the greatest force for good around the globe.




what does "greatest force for good" mean?


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Re: Brit reminds Europe of ‘a world without America’ [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #6631403 - 03/03/07 12:55 PM (17 years, 30 days ago)

It means that which most people consider good, America is the greatest force for and proponent of.

I agree with that.

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Re: Brit reminds Europe of ‘a world without America’ [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #6631406 - 03/03/07 12:56 PM (17 years, 30 days ago)

Greatest influence, yes. Good influence, no.


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Re: Brit reminds Europe of ‘a world without America’ [Re: robbyberto]
    #6631518 - 03/03/07 01:50 PM (17 years, 29 days ago)

What nation has done more good?


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Re: Brit reminds Europe of ‘a world without America’ [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6631539 - 03/03/07 01:54 PM (17 years, 29 days ago)

i can think of many that have done far less harm to the planet.


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Re: Brit reminds Europe of ‘a world without America’ [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #6631553 - 03/03/07 01:59 PM (17 years, 29 days ago)

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i can think of many that have done far less harm to the planet.



With equal population size?

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Re: Brit reminds Europe of ‘a world without America’ [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6631583 - 03/03/07 02:08 PM (17 years, 29 days ago)

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What nation has done more good?




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Re: Brit reminds Europe of ‘a world without America’ [Re: Economist]
    #6631604 - 03/03/07 02:16 PM (17 years, 29 days ago)

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i can think of many that have done far less harm to the planet.



With equal population size?




it's not necessarily the number of people that determine the degree of harm done, but consumption per capita.

i believe america's overconsumption is what causes many of the problems we're facing at this time.


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Re: Brit reminds Europe of ‘a world without America’ [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #6631640 - 03/03/07 02:28 PM (17 years, 29 days ago)

Ah yes, wealth is evil. The whole world should be as virtuous as Namibia because, after all, the don't consume anything except rancid legumes and guinea worms. No harm, no foul.

I ask again, "What nation has done more good?" I eagerly await your no doubt thoughtful and to the POINT answer.


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Re: Brit reminds Europe of ‘a world without America’ [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6631660 - 03/03/07 02:35 PM (17 years, 29 days ago)

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Ah yes, wealth is evil.  The whole world should be as virtuous as Namibia because, after all, the don't consume anything except rancid legumes and guinea worms.  No harm, no foul.

I ask again, "What nation has done more good?"  I eagerly await your no doubt thoughtful and to the POINT answer.




you think wealth is evil? because i'm pretty sure i did not say or even imply such a thing. :rolleyes:

i'm not going to answer your question as to what nation has done more good because "good" is as relative a term as it can get.

but to give you an idea of what i think of "good",

good is balance, moderation,
good is respect,
good is honoring the earth.

these are my values. my allegiance is to the planet, not a nation.


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Re: Brit reminds Europe of ‘a world without America’ [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #6631670 - 03/03/07 02:39 PM (17 years, 29 days ago)

Ugh, I just over-consumed some pizza. :puke:

:wink:


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Re: Brit reminds Europe of ‘a world without America’ [Re: fireworks_god]
    #6631687 - 03/03/07 02:51 PM (17 years, 29 days ago)

Namibians are "in balance" with nature. Of course, sometimes the balance tips a little toward the lion, in which case the hyena and the vulture get a share as well. And refrigeration. Now that is one way out of balance concept.


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Re: Brit reminds Europe of ‘a world without America’ [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6631695 - 03/03/07 02:56 PM (17 years, 29 days ago)

To the "good" I will endeavor to make it simple. The furtherance of a safe and comfortable human life, with reproduction and production throughout as long a span as possible. Now, answer the question, "What nation has done more good?"

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these are my values. my allegiance is to the planet, not a nation.




Maybe you should narrow your focus down to a species, because what is good for the tiger is not necessarily good for the Bay of Bengal fisherman. If you catch my drift, there, Moonbeam.


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Re: Brit reminds Europe of ‘a world without America’ [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6631741 - 03/03/07 03:19 PM (17 years, 29 days ago)

you still don't seem to grasp that to measure an entity's "goodness" depends entirely on the subjectivity of the measurer.

what is good to one is not so good to another.

sorry, but i'm not going to fill your cup.

i already have defined my set of values for my self.

and i'm sure you have too, sunshine. :shineon:


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Re: Brit reminds Europe of ‘a world without America’ [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #6631781 - 03/03/07 03:37 PM (17 years, 29 days ago)

Watch the video. They don't say anything about WWII Japanese and their autrocities. I think that the Soviet Union would have beaten Nazi Germany and probably would be expanding even at this time. More and more countries would become communist. Long haired hippies would conitinually be forced to have their hair cut off. You would die as soon as you were caught with drugs, although the public wouldn't know about it. People that disagreed with the communist government would disappear.....

http://www.18doughtystreet.com/on_demand/165

The failures who live in their mother's basement can afford to hate and lie about America. No one will come and get them for it.

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Re: Brit reminds Europe of ‘a world without America’ [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #6632068 - 03/03/07 05:33 PM (17 years, 29 days ago)

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you still don't seem to grasp that to measure an entity's "goodness" depends entirely on the subjectivity of the measurer.

what is good to one is not so good to another.


You say 'you dont seem to grasp...' as though your belief that there is no absolute good is the absolute truth.

There are near absolute 'goods'. Like good health. You will be hard pressed to find anybody who thinks being healthy is bad. US citizens and federal fundting have done enormous work in the area.

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Re: Brit reminds Europe of ‘a world without America’ [Re: DieCommie]
    #6632131 - 03/03/07 05:54 PM (17 years, 29 days ago)

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you still don't seem to grasp that to measure an entity's "goodness" depends entirely on the subjectivity of the measurer.

what is good to one is not so good to another.


You say 'you dont seem to grasp...' as though your belief that there is no absolute good is the absolute truth.

There are near absolute 'goods'. Like good health. You will be hard pressed to find anybody who thinks being healthy is bad. US citizens and federal fundting have done enormous work in the area.





That's like arguing with an Iranian. I wonder. Could it be them?

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Re: Brit reminds Europe of ‘a world without America’ [Re: zappaisgod]
    #6632298 - 03/03/07 06:50 PM (17 years, 29 days ago)

The US has had more resources by which it can do good so the question is irrelevant.

A more important question is what the country does with what resources it has in proportion to others. In fact the United States is among the least charitable first world nations in terms of GDP per capita.

Ranked at number 20, below even island nations like New Zealand and Japan.


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Re: Brit reminds Europe of ‘a world without America’ [Re: FrenchSocialist]
    #6632326 - 03/03/07 07:03 PM (17 years, 29 days ago)

That only reports what the government does, not what private individuals contribute. Blessedly, we do not yet live in a socialist nanny state shithole where only government has any funds. And even if that was all we gave out......

And no, the question is not irrelevant, it is the whole crux of the biscuit. Charity is your sole notion of doing good? As opposed to actually teaching the man to fish? Do you even understand the reference? Of course not, you're a socialist, only handouts are good.
And if you don't think I give you enough than try this.....NOTHING. Now, go find a nice French tit to suckle from.


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