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Are some drugs superior to other drugs?
    #6616057 - 02/27/07 11:30 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Ok this is an issue that has played out countless times on countless forums... So let's just settle this once and for all. Are you a 'druggist'? Do you discriminate against certain drugs? Or people that use certain drugs?
I bet most people are in favor of legalizing of shrooms and probably marijuana but what about ALL drugs? Why/why not?


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Re: Are some drugs superior to other drugs? [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #6616081 - 02/27/07 11:45 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

each drug has a different set of pros and cons, and each list varies from person to person.

if you tell me you don't hold a bias against one drug -vs- another you're a liar


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Re: Are some drugs superior to other drugs? [Re: zSDMF]
    #6616124 - 02/27/07 12:09 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Crack is superior to LSD.


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Re: Are some drugs superior to other drugs? [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #6616132 - 02/27/07 12:12 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

no drug can ever beat meth, ever, unless you want to have a bleach-chugging contest


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Re: Are some drugs superior to other drugs? [Re: demiu5]
    #6616134 - 02/27/07 12:14 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

CRACK FTW!!!!!!


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Re: Are some drugs superior to other drugs? [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #6616138 - 02/27/07 12:16 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Like someone else said, its all personal preference.

To me DXM is like poison. I find it unfathomable that people consume the stuff and enjoy it. But I try to stay objective and realize that an attitude like that is prejudicial, and based on my own likes/dislikes.


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Re: Are some drugs superior to other drugs? [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #6616169 - 02/27/07 12:25 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

If people habitually use cocaine, meth, and/or heroin, I tend not to associate with them. I can't stand seeing people willingly destroy themselves and I hate the kind of people they become when they use these drugs.


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Re: Are some drugs superior to other drugs? [Re: zSDMF]
    #6616258 - 02/27/07 12:55 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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each drug has a different set of pros and cons, and each list varies from person to person.

if you tell me you don't hold a bias against one drug -vs- another you're a liar




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Re: Are some drugs superior to other drugs? [Re: Gumby]
    #6616288 - 02/27/07 01:02 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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If people habitually use cocaine, meth, and/or heroin, I tend not to associate with them. I can't stand seeing people willingly destroy themselves and I hate the kind of people they become when they use these drugs.



Well said. I agree with you whole heartedly. I have friends that are struggling with their addictions and some that are still in the depths. I hate what they have become and it's because thay chose to use certain drugs with a high addiction rate. However, I don't blame the drug, nor do I condemn the drug. It was put here for a purpose and it has a place in our world. How people choose to live their lives is entirely up to them.


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Re: Are some drugs superior to other drugs? [Re: blissedout]
    #6616391 - 02/27/07 01:36 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Drug fads will come and go.... but smokin' the kine herb will never go out of style.    :bigblunt:


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Re: Are some drugs superior to other drugs? [Re: Stonerguy]
    #6616397 - 02/27/07 01:37 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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each drug has a different set of pros and cons, and each list varies from person to person.

if you tell me you don't hold a bias against one drug -vs- another you're a liar







True, each drug does have a different set of positive/negative effects, but some drugs are much more detrimental to the majority of their users then others. This would qualify some drugs as being better IMO. This defiantly coincides with my beliefs about drugs, I can sit back and wish that everyone would use psychedelics because I believe that society as a whole could benefit. That's not to say that people wouldn't try to abuse them, but they are mush harder to abuse then crack, heroin, meth, ect. Psychedelics have improved my life and I regard them as a gift from God because they offer me insight and perspective. But I can't see society benefiting if the majority of people were tweakers, crackheads or junkies. My point is I am a 'druggist' to some degree. I just get thrown off when I see senior members of the shroomery get upset or offended when someone states that some drugs are better then others...


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Re: Are some drugs superior to other drugs? [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #6616403 - 02/27/07 01:39 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I'd say I have a prejudice against cocaine users. This is probably due to the fact that the addicts I know would steal from me in a heart beat to support their addiction. The weird thing about me though is that I hate weed, but love mushrooms. I think I say weird because everyone that I have met that finds out I do mushrooms assumes I smoke weed too. Anyone else get that?


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Re: Are some drugs superior to other drugs? [Re: Ubermensch]
    #6616421 - 02/27/07 01:45 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I'm in the same boat with you there. Since I do shrooms I MUST smoke weed, then they're disappointed to find out I don't.

I guess my no-no drugs are meth and crack. Those just seem to be on a whole different level, even then heroin. Maybe it's just the people I generally associate with those drugs.


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Re: Are some drugs superior to other drugs? [Re: jewunit]
    #6616481 - 02/27/07 01:59 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I actually only know one person who does shrooms but doesn't enjoy a fine toke, and the only reason he doesn't smoke is because he has lung problems.

I have the most prejudice towards meth (haven't met many crackheads). I had to tell some 'friends' to not come around if they were tweaking because I couldn't stand them. I've seen 'tweaker' friends try to steal from me and totally fuck up their lives.

It's hard to keep an open mind when I see these happen to what were good people. But I'm sure there are those that can handle the most addicting drugs, and maintain a productive life. For that reason I must remain optimistic and remember its all a matter of personal preference.


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Re: Are some drugs superior to other drugs? [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #6616514 - 02/27/07 02:10 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I've tried every common drug except GHB, opiates win by a long shot. They come with the most baggage though. It really is a preference though, but I don't know anyone that traded their kids to get high from weed, LSD, or any psychedelic for that matter. I know plenty of junkies that did, and its not because they hate getting high.


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Re: Are some drugs superior to other drugs? [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #6616549 - 02/27/07 02:23 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

all drugs are good for a certain type of ailment. But some people get high just because it is there to injest, smoke, snort..etc...while others are hooked not thinking they are.
Even caffiene has major withdrawal symptoms and it is a legal drug.
  All drugs are good in moderaton, moderation is k3y! :yesnod:


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Re: Are some drugs superior to other drugs? [Re: Skunk420]
    #6616608 - 02/27/07 02:46 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I respect the use of all, but care less for certain ones on my body. Physically I recognize opiates as the best and ultimate class of drug, giving me a sense of bliss and euphoria far beyond that of most friends who just smoke pot. But in terms of actually developing spiritually, I respect the potential of psychedelics far more.


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Re: Are some drugs superior to other drugs? [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #6616622 - 02/27/07 02:48 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i dont care for crack and meth users, but i just tend not to associate with em. they should be allowed access to good pure speed and crack though without all the garbage street dealers cut with. same with opiates. people should have the freedom to do as they please in regards to what they choose to ingest.


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Re: Are some drugs superior to other drugs? [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #6616649 - 02/27/07 02:54 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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zSDMF said:
each drug has a different set of pros and cons, and each list varies from person to person.

if you tell me you don't hold a bias against one drug -vs- another you're a liar







True, each drug does have a different set of positive/negative effects, but some drugs are much more detrimental to the majority of their users then others. This would qualify some drugs as being better IMO. This defiantly coincides with my beliefs about drugs, I can sit back and wish that everyone would use psychedelics because I believe that society as a whole could benefit. That's not to say that people wouldn't try to abuse them, but they are mush harder to abuse then crack, heroin, meth, ect. Psychedelics have improved my life and I regard them as a gift from God because they offer me insight and perspective. But I can't see society benefiting if the majority of people were tweakers, crackheads or junkies. My point is I am a 'druggist' to some degree. I just get thrown off when I see senior members of the shroomery get upset or offended when someone states that some drugs are better then others...




Ever taken a small dose of meth then studied for a test? Or have you ever even taken any of the drugs that you belive to be "more" detrimental to someone?

Why do people get upset? ITS A FUCKING DRUG WEBSITE. When you say (insert drug here) is bad, its just shows that propoganda does work.

I remember someone used to have something like this in their signature
"Just because you or someone you know took a drug and it tore apart your/his/her life. Dosn't give you the right to get on a soap box and preach about it"


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Re: Are some drugs superior to other drugs? [Re: rickpsfuckyou]
    #6616663 - 02/27/07 02:59 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

ccoooool I dont hang around hard drug users either.


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