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hankydanky2k
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Ordering from IOP using western union, risky?
#6613197 - 02/26/07 04:02 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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A friend of mine was considering ordering some Valium from an international online pharmacy. The method of payment the IOP prefers is western union. My friend has no idea how western union works and was wondering if the payment made through them could be used against him in court. Here are the instructions my friend was sent from the IOP when he asked for payment details (real names and locations removed of course).
_____________________________________________________________________ In case you would like to make an order please make the payment with Western Union
www.westernunion.com
and send to:
First name: ??? Last name: ???????? Nowhere BFE
After the payment please email us the MTCN and SENDER'S name, we need these to pick up the payment. Also include your order and correct mailing address.
Thanks and best regards, BFEpharms ____________________________________________________________________
Of course my friend does not have a prescription for Valium, and he plans on ordering a sizable amount of it. The pharmacy has a very good reputation and my friend trusts them to send the product. Normally when these kinds of meds are intercepted US Customs sends a letter to the purchaser about the package they will not receive. Is it possible that they would be able to use the western union payment to do more and convict the purchaser of trafficking? Is there a certain way to use western union to aviod legal issues? My friend thanks you for your help. He also would like to say that kratom from IAS rocks!
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Re: Ordering from IOP using western union, risky? [Re: hankydanky2k]
#6615894 - 02/27/07 07:37 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dont use western union to send money for drugs... easiest way to scam people ever.
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Re: Ordering from IOP using western union, risky? [Re: dedjam]
#6615974 - 02/27/07 08:35 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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at least not a wire transfer, which is what it sounds like they are suggesting
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Re: Ordering from IOP using western union, risky? [Re: demiu5]
#6615995 - 02/27/07 08:49 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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western union is used to the people involved can stay anonymous.
You arent really risking getting caught by using western union, you are risking handing away you money.
Why fuck around with large amounts of pharms? Drug dealer? Its easy enough to get a benzo script, then go to walmart and get generics for 4 bucks. Beats paying way to much, chancing that you are getting scammed, and chancing that you may end up in jail.
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Re: Ordering from IOP using western union, risky? [Re: dedjam]
#6616022 - 02/27/07 09:07 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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um...I know what western union is
I had to do both money orders and wire transfers (electronically and over the phone) because we sold their products at a store I used to work in
money orders are safe and should be what this person is using. But it sounds as if the company wants him to use a wire transfer which is easy to get screwed on if the company he's ordering from isn't legit or knows what they're doing
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Why fuck around with large amounts of pharms? Drug dealer? Its easy enough to get a benzo script, then go to walmart and get generics for 4 bucks. Beats paying way to much, chancing that you are getting scammed, and chancing that you may end up in jail.
ask the person buying the pills that question, not me
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Re: Ordering from IOP using western union, risky? [Re: demiu5]
#6616670 - 02/27/07 01:01 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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demius said: um...I know what western union is
Great, pretty sure no one tried to tell you any different.
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demius said: I had to do both money orders and wire transfers (electronically and over the phone) because we sold their products at a store I used to work in
Wonderful information
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demius said: money orders are safe and should be what this person is using.
False. Money orders are one of the least secure ways of moving money aside from cash.
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demius said: But it sounds as if the company wants him to use a wire transfer which is easy to get screwed on if the company he's ordering from isn't legit or knows what they're doing
Wire transfer or not, if the company wants him to use western union for a money order or wire transfer, he is screwed if they just take his money.
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demius said: ask the person buying the pills that question, not me
I made a general post for information...it was more rhetorical as I didnt expect someone to admit to buying pills illegally and then being a drug dealer. Sorry if there was any confusion.
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Re: Ordering from IOP using western union, risky? [Re: dedjam]
#6618242 - 02/27/07 08:48 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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please explain to me how buying something with a money order is any less safe than using a credit card or cashier's cheque, especially is sending overseas
no matter what method he uses, they could take his money and send no product.
That's why I don't understand where you are coming from with your advice
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Re: Ordering from IOP using western union, risky? [Re: demiu5]
#6618669 - 02/27/07 10:44 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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My friend thanks all of you for the advice so far. He was not asking about ensuring that he would receive his medicine from the IOP, but rather if he received meds that were puchased using western union would that be possible to track and use in court to send him to prison.
My friend said that usually when a package is intercepted in customs a letter is sent to the address where it was supposed to be shipped. There is usually no legal action taken whatsoever because somehow it cannot be proven that the package was even supposed to go there in the first place. Does using western union change that?
That is what my friend was asking. He isn't asking about whether the IOP will send the meds or not. Again, my friend thanks you.
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Re: Ordering from IOP using western union, risky? [Re: demiu5]
#6619610 - 02/28/07 06:36 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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demius said: please explain to me how buying something with a money order is any less safe than using a credit card or cashier's cheque, especially is sending overseas
no matter what method he uses, they could take his money and send no product.
That's why I don't understand where you are coming from with your advice
Cashiers check is the same as a MO when it comes to processing. With a credit card, you pay and they take your money...all you have to do is file a complaint and you get the money back. Its EASY to get money back for purchases like that with a credit card...especially with all the buyer protections most credit cards have now. Or if you are using the internet, you can use a service like paypal, which also have buyer protection programs.
There are no buyer protection programs for MO's and Cashiers checks...once they are cashed, there is no one to call that will give you your money back because you got screwed.
That is the difference, that is where my advice comes from.
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Re: Ordering from IOP using western union, risky? [Re: dedjam]
#6619611 - 02/28/07 06:38 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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No, they arent going to track the western union payment out of the country...they wouldnt need to.
If they wanted to arrest him, they wouldnt seize the package and send a letter. They would alert local law enforcement, and they would be waiting around the corner when he opens his package ready to bust in as soon as he accepts it.
The letters are scare tactics, and probably get you put on a list. If they want you, they will come and get you.
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Re: Ordering from IOP using western union, risky? [Re: hankydanky2k]
#6626281 - 03/01/07 10:10 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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u used to be able to send and receive $ with just a test ? no id,s on either end, look in the WU faq i heard IAS kinda sucks by the way overpriced and too many orders which they screw up
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