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Looking for dark classical
    #6607190 - 02/25/07 01:29 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Hey guys.  I'm looking for abstract/dark classical.  Anyone know of any composers?(with the title of the piece) 
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Re: Looking for dark classical [Re: Toddo]
    #6607225 - 02/25/07 01:40 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Hmm, Dark Classical. Well, the Red Army Choir does a pretty good "Volga Boatman" song, but I think you're talking about some Tchaikovsky or Chopin.


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Re: Looking for dark classical [Re: Toddo]
    #6607240 - 02/25/07 01:46 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I think you are looking for Varese.


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Re: Looking for dark classical [Re: Beebo]
    #6607250 - 02/25/07 01:49 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

No, it can be contemporary stuff to.  I shall check out the red army choir.  Time periods and styles really matter little.  Any thing with a really dark, intense feeling or somthing abstract and strange.  :smile:


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Re: Looking for dark classical [Re: Toddo]
    #6607263 - 02/25/07 01:55 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Disco Violenta by Mr. Bungle is about the darkest and strangest album out there.

check out danny elfmans stuff too... hell any good theatrical composition.


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Re: Looking for dark classical [Re: Toddo]
    #6607280 - 02/25/07 02:00 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

big fan of classical music here

for opera, the orchestral passage if you dont like vocals...

- Wagner - the ring cycle ( apocalyptical, grand, epic, bombastic story of gods ) just saw it couple of months ago in toronto aaa the madness... this guy is more than a composer, he's just, the greatest of artists... it's disturbing.

- Alban berg - lulu  ( modern dissonnant tales of bloody murder perfectly cast with prostitutes and jack the ripper LOL )

- richard strauss - salome ( an histrionic girl drives a man to suicide,  do a strip tease, than tells her love to a another bloody dead mans head before kissing him and getting herself executed. the music is perfect, everythin is in this one )

Symphonies :

- bethoven fifths first movement is dark... but oh well, that<s old..

- shostakovich!!! the 11th !!! aaaa aaaaaaaaaaaa GOOD AND DARK I LOVE IT :wink: the 15th... boring but dark.

- Mahler - the 3rd is killer really, dont be fooled about the fact that this one is about jesus christ death/ressurection, it's 50% power, 50% softness. Definitvly worth hearing. The decca/solti recording is one of the best thing ever recorded. Well, i think. hehe

other :

- Verdi's requiem, thank god, not so corny like his operas... dark, fast paced, big choral, Huh, every requiem is dark for that matter

- Carl orff - carmina buranna. You know this one obviously, this piece was a Nazi commission for the death of an officer. This make this one  even more gloomy!! héhé

- Chopin, lots and lots of piano melancoly, really good, but more depressing than dark to me. To my ears, the greatest piano composers of all.

Hey or you know, bif budget horror film movie music! Marco belltrami!!! This guy do really atmospheric dark symphonic music for movies like : underworld 2, hellboy, constantine, sometimes it's really good, i mean, why be a snob and say that's it's only ''cheap hollywood music'' LOL


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Re: Looking for dark classical [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #6607281 - 02/25/07 02:00 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

hey psilo... Didn't catch your post.  I'll check Varese out :thumbup:.  I just found this link which writes up a nice list and descriptions of dark compositions. http://www.geocities.com/teoi143/music/darkclassical.htm

I have Krzysztof Penderecki (St. Luke's Passion)playing right now.  I feel like I'm traveling into hell haha..  its absolutely awesome.  Its very dissonant, dark, brooding.  There's a  guy who starts reading verses in Latin in between movements.  Its really  powerful stuff.


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Re: Looking for dark classical [Re: fredyjenkins]
    #6607295 - 02/25/07 02:04 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

by the way, the dark/abstract/freaky stuff is -mostly- from wagner to today. I mean, mid-high-romantic up until now. From Wagner comes the real big orchestras, it's just alot more huge from this point up until today. Louder, scarier ect


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Re: Looking for dark classical [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #6607298 - 02/25/07 02:05 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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psilocyberin said:
Disco Violenta by Mr. Bungle is about the darkest and strangest album out there.

check out danny elfmans stuff too... hell any good theatrical composition.




Yeah, Danny's awesome. I think Sleepy Hollow was one of the most insane, out of control scores he did. I'm actually trying to move away from theatrical stuff (my area of musical love) and explore some new classical ground for myself.


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Re: Looking for dark classical [Re: fredyjenkins]
    #6607306 - 02/25/07 02:09 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

there is an 11 minute song in 9 parts on Disco Violenta by mr. bungle called "The Bends", kind of a musical representation of coming up from deep water, very ethereal at times and very weird.

I think it is track 9 off the album.


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Re: Looking for dark classical [Re: fredyjenkins]
    #6607313 - 02/25/07 02:11 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

thanks for the list man. :cheers:

I'm going to have to look more into Wagner.  I was listening to Shostakovitch's Violin Concerto No.1 in A minor.  It was bloody intense.  How can someone play something like that with out having a heart attack?  :lol:


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Re: Looking for dark classical [Re: Toddo]
    #6607329 - 02/25/07 02:16 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)
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here is a little 1 minute clip I made from the bungle song I mentioned, tell me if this is along the lines of what you were looking for.


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Re: Looking for dark classical [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #6607357 - 02/25/07 02:32 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I was kind of feeling something a little less synthesizer oriented. Not abstract in the form of electronic tweaking and synth waves. More naturally abstract. I was driving home from my friends house and I happen to turn on the radio right in the middle of some sort of piano concerto. Its was absolutely insane. He was rhythmical, pounding random groups of bass keys with one hand and playing a strange mix of scales with the other. Out of tune Quick staccato strings and percussion hits would come in sporadically. It sounded really improvised. I loved it.. but I can't seem to find that style or composers who do that sort of thing.

So really Anything experimental with in the classical range. Synthesizers are cool.. but I want something thats not really heavily processed.


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Re: Looking for dark classical [Re: Toddo]
    #6607526 - 02/25/07 03:37 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Dude!

Nash ensemble - Messiaen - quartet for the end of time
you just pretty much described it. Ambient, dark, a little experimental. Hope you can find it, its one of my favorites for classical.

on a side note if you like jazz you might also like miles davis's bitches brew.


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Re: Looking for dark classical [Re: daytripper23]
    #6607726 - 02/25/07 05:39 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Haha well dude, if you want somthing really out there and abstract
http://www.eluveitie.ch/music/ven/druidcut.mp3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGMwWIg3pE8


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Re: Looking for dark classical [Re: Toddo]
    #6608811 - 02/25/07 04:05 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Do you know Arvo Part? Modern Estonian, very beautiful. The music, that is, he's an old man.

His "Tabla Rasa" is one of my favourite pieces of the last 50 years. Ive got loads of mp3s ill try upload some but im too tired now.


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Re: Looking for dark classical [Re: Beebo]
    #6608822 - 02/25/07 04:08 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

beethovens 7th

i like paganini a lot also
a good page for classical midis - where you might find somegs to further investigate is

http://www.classtab.org/


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Re: Looking for dark classical [Re: mr_kite]
    #6608951 - 02/25/07 04:50 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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Do you know Arvo Part? Modern Estonian, very beautiful. The music, that is, he's an old man.

His "Tabla Rasa" is one of my favourite pieces of the last 50 years. Ive got loads of mp3s ill try upload some but im too tired now.




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Re: Looking for dark classical [Re: daytripper23]
    #6608993 - 02/25/07 05:00 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Niccolo Paganini


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Re: Looking for dark classical [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #6613382 - 02/26/07 06:59 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Sorry to be off topic, but Mr Bungle's album is called Disco Volante. And yeah, The Bends is a great 9 piece song. I especially enjoy the "take off" scene at the end. To me it sounds like someone who is going through the process of the bends and eventually dying.


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Re: Looking for dark classical [Re: Toddo]
    #6613402 - 02/26/07 07:03 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)
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Hall of the Mountain King

unfortunately the only version I have readily available is by Apocaliptica. They still use cellos and things but it's much heavier than normal


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