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Offlinetrent
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    #6606678 - 02/24/07 08:08 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

say you're in a situation with police or other authorities (mainly police) and you are not quite sure of your rights. aside from miranda rights, are they obligated to answer questions you have regarding rights and the law. i know they're not supposed to act as your lawyer (they're to arrest you) but i was just wondering if they can lie about them and if its ever possible to set loopholes if they tell you something inaccurate that can be used later on. (hopefully not)

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Re: question [Re: trent]
    #6607017 - 02/24/07 10:35 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Cops will lie their asses off in any situation like that if they think it'll help their bust. Don't believe a word they say.

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Re: question [Re: Le_Canard]
    #6607274 - 02/24/07 11:57 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

They'll certainly lie. You need a good understanding of your rights, or better yet, a lawyer present if you want to protect them. Otherwise, stick with your right to remain silent and your rights not to be searched without probable cause.


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Re: question [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #6607728 - 02/25/07 03:42 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Cops have the equivalent of an AA or less. They really don't know jack about the law except for what they learn while on the job. They are also allowed to lie their asses off about whatever they want. Many times they will tell you that you have to do something, then later you'll find out that you weren't required to comply yet they will still be allowed to use that information against you in court.

Generally you have to identify yourself and nothing else. That is to say that you must give them your real name and address when they ask. Other than that your best bet is to tell them that you're asserting your right to remain silent.


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Re: question [Re: fastfred]
    #6607735 - 02/25/07 03:48 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I have been in court many a times and the best advice I could give is to give the basic info (name, address, etc) and then remain silent, because they will lie to you to get info out of you and use it against you the first chance they get, and when it comes down to it in a court of law, no matter what happened they are going to believe the cop over you, so just give out necessary info then keep shut.


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Re: question [Re: BillyBones]
    #6611803 - 02/26/07 08:27 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Dont worry about your other rights...keep your mouth fucking shut! Dont give into the lies, if you talk more it wont help you out. The cop has no say in your penalty, thats up to the courts...you will get your chance to explain your side before a judge.

The only right you need to be worried about when dealing with a cop is your right to remain silent, and i advise, that no matter what, you use this right. If you talk, even if you are explaining yourself, they will still arrest you and just misinterpret what you say.

Once again, just keep your mouth shut.

My lawyer has this card he hands out that you can give to a cop if you are being arrested. Basically it says that you are aware of your rights, you have counsel, and any questions should be directed to him because you are keeping your mouth shut. It also explains to the cop that you know your rights about seach and seizure, and you are under no circumstances giving permission for a search...which means they have to do it without permission...which gives you a leg in court.

Its not the cops job to know your rights, it is your job. Dont be another lazy american to buys to take the time to understand your rights and our legal system.

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