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FEEDING CANINES CUBIES
    #658886 - 06/02/02 10:30 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Has anyone ever dosed their dog? I want to trip with my 3 year old German Shepard, but I don't want to cause her harm. I was wondering if it would be safe to feed some Ecuadors to her, and how many?


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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: turpentine]
    #658890 - 06/02/02 10:34 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

The dog wouldn't know control. I'm sure the halucinations she'd have would scare her alot. I mean primal fear. Can you hold your dog while she shakes for 6 hours? I'm also sure that she'd hurt herself in the stupor.
Don't dose your dog.

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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: turpentine]
    #658978 - 06/02/02 11:31 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Asshole.


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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #659191 - 06/02/02 01:49 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I dont know about shrooms, but a couple of years back when one of my friends had some blue paper acid, he gave 3 hits to one of my other friends german shepard and the dog sat in a corner for hours just barking at nothing. He also ran around the yard just barking. At the time it was funny, but now I relize that it was pretty cruel. The dog did go back to normal thank god. But why give your dog shrooms? Just give them to a friend or just eat them yourself. I would also think that the dog would freak out, and probally puke and shit all over the place, which wouldnt be to fun to clean up while your tripping.

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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: turpentine]
    #659279 - 06/02/02 03:17 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Sounds like a very very bad idea.............the dog would suffer badly.


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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #659281 - 06/02/02 03:19 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

yea


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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: turpentine]
    #659307 - 06/02/02 03:41 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Just dont give it big doses.

I bet if you gave a dog a few abhorts it would get more rowdy and would like to run around and play.

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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: turpentine]
    #659431 - 06/02/02 05:23 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Please tell me this is one of those 'joke' posts.....
Its stupid stunts like this that fuel the Public's Consensus that Drugs are DAngerous.
What if the dog flips put and eats a baby?
What if he tears your arm off?!
WTF is wrong with you.
Go get WASTED, and play on the median.

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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: Anonymous]
    #659462 - 06/02/02 05:54 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

the dingo ate my baby!!!


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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: psilosinner]
    #660872 - 06/03/02 02:53 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

We use to get this one dumb chihuahua high and the little fucker would just run up and down the house and wouldn't shut the fuck up. Man I fucken hate that dog..

A few people I knew were making some type of drug that is like LSD in their sink I forgot what it was called. Well anyways the cat somehow got in there and started wigging out.. poor kitty, it always shakes now and just wigs out for no reason.

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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: turpentine]
    #661095 - 06/03/02 05:16 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

It sounds like you like your dog and just want to share the experience with her but I don't think she would apreciate it.

I'm surprie=sed you posted this with all the people around here just waiting for an excuse to get pissed off.


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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: turpentine]
    #661111 - 06/03/02 05:24 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

mmmm... yeah, I'll hafta vote agenst that one. It probably would fuel the anti drug community - I can see the next anti-drug commercial and/or news headlines now: psychadelic crazed guy doses dog and the dog kills then feasts on owners dead carcus for weeks before the stink alarmed neighbors.

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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: turpentine]
    #661667 - 06/04/02 12:41 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Maybe you should read 'The Day of St. Anthony's Fire' by Fuller, about the 1950's outbreak of ergotism in France. People and animals went quite mad. Several people and many animals died. The bizarre behavior that preceded the death of the animals might be amusing to a sadist or an idiot, but there is nothing ever funny about suffering.

Lacking human-level prefrontal cortex development, animals evidence only negative states with LSD - primates included. Chimpanzees had terrible panic attacks on mushrooms. When later shown plain salad mushrooms, they 'went apeshit.' I've seen photos of a cat cringing in terror at the sight of a mouse. Again, amusing only to sadists and idiots. The only exception I am aware of has been with John C. Lilly's experiments with porpoises. He, however, is a compassionate and educated man - not a stoned teenager who shouldn't play with acid any more than with a block of C-4 and detonators.


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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #661707 - 06/04/02 02:08 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Mark, the St. Anthony's Fire has been dismissed as the cause of the outbreak in France to which you are referring to. It has since been found that it was a form of mercury poisoning which caused that outbreak.

And Mr. Turpentine, where the fuck is your moral terpitude at?

As for giving animals drugs. This is irresponsible and not a good thing to do. People sometimes dose other people unsuspectingly. This is one of the reasons why mushrooms were just banned in Japan.

Someone gave a very much beloved Japanese Rick star a dose of shrooms and he ended up in the emergency room of a local hospital and his story made the newspapers causing a bad reaction amongst Japanese law enforcement and health officials in that country. The kid had almost flipped out permanently from being dosed by friends.

Another case in point. In the middle 1970s, my wife and I has a friend who dealt acid in Seattle.

Well he managed one day to give his beautiful Black Israeli Afghan Hound a double dose of orange sunshine. He too was also very high. Well for some reason or other, his dog began to bark at the table legs and this continued for some time driving my friend up the wall with the constant carking at the legs thing. After about 15-20 minutes of this the person began to freak out and started to beat his dog with a baseball bat to get the dog to shut up. End result, he neat his dog to death. Thus the dog died. The person received six months in the county jail for his actions.

Now worst case scenario.

When I lived in Portland Oregon, I lived two blocks from Laurelhurst Park.

In the summer my first wife and I would take our daughter to the park to play.

Flashback two years. I read an article in the Oregonian newpaper about a man who shot three lions at the Portland Zoo. He was sentenced to Damisch Prison (the same one that One Flew Over the CooCoo's Nest was about and also where they filmed Ken Keyesy's movie).

Flashback back to Laurelhurst Park.

Every morning when I would go to the Park with my wife and daughter, we would see this long-haired gi type wearing old army fatigues and sitting at a park picnic table bench with a couple of bags of quarts of Old English 800. And he would always be there with his three dogs, dogs whom we later found out were name, Agnes, Gertrude and I think Penelope. Could be wrong about that last name. Been a long time I forget sometimes. However I have posted this story here before when people talked aboutg getting their animals high.

Anyway back to the story.

After a while, my wife and I became friends with this person.

Here is what happened to him.

He and a friend had taken several doses of LSD and got real high. So they thought that it would be fun to get some large steaks from one of their mothers freezers, thaw it out and lace it with LSD. They did this with several doses on each steak by dropping liquid acid on the steaks.

Then they took the steaks to the Portland, Oregon Zoo and snuck in after dark by clkimbing the walls of the zoo fence and then fed the steaks to the lions. After about an hour of waiting the lions began to feel the effects of the acid.

Before too long, my friends buddy began to tease the lions from above their cages by throwing rocks and other small obbjects at the lions and making them angry and making them roar really loud. They tought it was hilarious.. However, My friends friend was so stoned that while throwing these items at the lions and teasing them he leaned over to far into the pit and accidently tumbled down into the lion pit and the lions fucking shreaded him into several pieces of flesh and blood. In other words they chewed his ass up.

So my friend ran home and got a double-barreled shotgun belonging to his parents and went back to the zoo and killed all of the lions.

This can all be varified by going to any university library and looking up the incident in the microfische files.

Becasue of what he did the judge sentenced him to the nut house for several years. He was never the same again.

So think twiice before thinking giving your pets drugs. That it is bullshit to do that to someone unsuspectingly.

The CIA did this in the nineteen fifties and gave LSD to soldiers without telling them and they jumped from windows. Hitler gave drugs to Jews unsuspectingly and they didn't live at all.

I have very little regards to people who mistreat animals in this way. So Mr. Turpentine, get a fucking life and wake up and do not abuse your dog. I have very little respect for people who dose animals with drugs. This show how irresponsible a person you really are.

I do not think many people here will like your thoughts about this matter.

mj

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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: mjshroomer]
    #661714 - 06/04/02 02:16 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Furthermore I wanted to mention that many oo phamplets have comments back int he 1970s and 19802 warning zoo visitors not to be feeling animals drugs, especially LSD. I have one such pamphlet fromthe Jacksonville Florida zoo with warnings about animals having aborted their babies becasue some idiot gave the animal LSD.

In medicine, lysergic acid amides are used to bring on aborts when childhood dilvery is late. Midwives in both America and Europe learned that in small amounts, ergot woudlstop post partum hemoraging in mothers giveing childbirth.. A lot of mothers use to die becasue the midwives did not known how to stop the bleeding. At the same time in History, the French also learned that in aminute aamount, ergot would also bring on childbirth. This is what Albert Hofmann was experimenting with when he accidently discovered LSD>


Sp [please do not do this horrible act on an animal. I am sure that you would not want someone to do this to you.

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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: turpentine]
    #661769 - 06/04/02 03:34 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Ever since I started growing shrooms my wifes little yorki luved the smell of the mushrooms. If I was sitting on the couch with a bag of shrooms in my pocket she would try to get them. I thought it was kinda funny but no way would I puposely feed the dog shrooms. One night while enjoying a movie on a mild trip my wife comes downstairs and asks if she can have some shrooms. So I go upstairs get some shrooms to weigh out a dose for my wife. After I give my wife the shrooms she requested I go to put the remaining shrooms back in a big ziplock and suddenly one big hawaiin cap breaks off a stem and falls to the floor. Quicker than shit that yorki grabs that cap runs under the bed and eats it. Whithin an hour the dog goes nuts my wife is worried sick the dog might die and I'm kinda pissed cause this is not my fault (and I know the dog won't die). My wife holds her freaked out dog for a couple of hours then I take over and hold it. Its wigged out, but I think my much less worried demeanor calms the dog. The dog starts breathiing more normaly while I watch T.V. The dog fully recovered and seems good as new but she aint crazy over the smell of shrooms anymore. I'm sorry the dog went through this and I have taken steps to insure it won't happen again.

Feeding canines cubies:

chance that dog will die = very low

chance dog won't enjoy effects = very high


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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: mjshroomer]
    #662482 - 06/04/02 10:14 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

A gruesome tale of instant karma!

I pulled my copy and found this: "Mercury - the bsae of the Panogen fungicide - had been found only in infinitesimal quantity in the viscera of only one victim, and none had been found in any of the samples of the flour or bread...Further, the symptoms revealed were almost totally foreign to those of mercury poisoning....The theory that the actual source of the poisoning was a potent derivative of lysergic acid, derived spontaneously from ergot, was becoming more and more logical as more information of the deadly [ ] and mysterious new drug LSD-25 was being uncovered through the 1950's." Fuller, 1968, pp.276-277.
Finally, the last sentence of the book: "There is one and only one cause of the tragedy: some form of ergot, and that form has logically got to be akin to LSD." p.301.

Of course, St. Anthony's Fire, or ergotism was recorded during outbreaks in the middle ages wherein St. Anthony the anchorite became the patron saint to call upon for help. It caused gangrene and such vasoconstriction, that limbs would fall off without bleeding. Meanwhile, the afflicted person would burn as if on fire, and experience all manner of toxic-caused and therefore hellish, hallucinations. In any event, we are in agreement with the immoral and downright cruel practice of poisoning (as in inTOXICating) animals. Thanks for the post and the opportunity to pull this moldy volume from my vintage psychedelia collection.


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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #662618 - 06/04/02 11:28 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Mark you should read my post the Original Purple mushroom posted at the mycotopia.net site.

mj

St. Anthony was a preist form the 2nd century who had an afinity with animals. He also carried Bell, Book And Candle, later the name of a movie about withccraft and the basis for bewitched.

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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: psilosinner]
    #662790 - 06/04/02 01:16 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Mine too


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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #663259 - 06/04/02 07:15 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: Barbi]
    #664258 - 06/05/02 11:49 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, yes, the movie 'The Bear' had cubs eating Amanita Muscarias and hallucinating butterflies; reindeer do eat Amanitas and other reindeer lick up their psychoactive urine. Some birds eat fermented berries off bushes, and butterflies like to lay their eggs on my own Passionflower vines so their caterpillar babies can devour the plants (while ignoring my Alamandas and Mandevillas).

Canines should not be given psychoactives. Period. Take your dogs into the woods when you trip but leave them in their natural state. They're already rooted in the here and now. Learn from them! If you want amusement, give catnip to cats.


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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: mjshroomer]
    #664389 - 06/05/02 01:39 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Can you give me more specific directions to your article. I bookmarked the site, but their were over 400 pages of reference to 'original purple mushroom' ? Thanks.


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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: mjshroomer]
    #664406 - 06/05/02 01:50 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

P.S. - Hieronymous Bosche's paintings of St. Anthony, and I think, Pieter Breugel the Elder, show the monsters and demons attacking Anthony,that Athanasius wrote about in his biography of St. Anthony. One of the reasons that Anthony is a patron saint of ergotism, is because he himself seemed to have been a victim of it.
Anthony did not develop the gangrene, but Bosche's surrealistic landscapes and animated objects, plus hybrid reptilian-insectoid-vegatative creatures are clearly hellish beings.

St. Anthony is usually illustrated (Albrecht Durer) with a pig and a staff surmounted by a Tao cross (with little bells, it is true). He was the first Christian anchorite or hermit monk. I do not think that the Pagan symbols indicate Pagan practices of any sort. He was a renunciant to the extreme.


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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: mjshroomer]
    #664508 - 06/05/02 03:08 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

So far everytime I have tripped, I think my dog knows that im tripping. Whenever im tripping she freaks out and runs around the place and whines (sp) and starts to kind of bug me. I think that she can tell something is wrong by looking at my eyes. I bet she can tell by my pupils being so huge. Anyone else have any ideas about this.

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    #665108 - 06/06/02 12:35 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

July 1, 1972 - I took my first strong trip on windowpane LSD. At peak time, my designated sitter took me and my tripping buddy to my house when my parents were out. I walked in and my dog Blackie was lying, as usual, on the stairs. All I said was "Hi Blackie,' and she began to tremble like she was at the veternarian's office.
Now, when we all went up to my room, I remember seeing my friend Kenny with a 2 color aura around him: light blue with pink over that layer. When he spoke, the same light blue colored auric 'vapor' (prana?) came out of his mouth and passed through the blue and pink body-aura. Now, it's been 30 years and I remember this vividly, so I wonder if my dog saw something frightening. I also don't know to this day if the ability of my physical eyes was enhanced, or whether my third eye was open to clairvoyant perception. Very clearly though, another aspect of reality was perceived. A year later, when I would come home from college on the weekends to trip, I'd actually dance with my dog while she stood on hind legs. No more fear from her, but neither was the intensity of that first trip there either. In a word: vibrations.


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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #665179 - 06/06/02 02:43 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

That's creepy.
Reminds me of the F and L quote "This was not a good time for psychedelic drugs..extremely menacing vibrations were all around us"
I think animals CAN sense things that we can't see. Who knows what it was though...

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    #665458 - 06/06/02 06:02 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

So far everytime I have tripped, I think my dog knows that im tripping.

Let's not make this another mystical myth. Your body chemistry changes significantly and hence your body odor. On psilocybin, it is not very noticable to a human, but even humans can detect the smell of a person (even if they don''t know what is causing it) on LSD. A dog's sense of smell had been estimated to be 1,000 to 10,000 times more sensitive than ours, so it is not that great of a mystery. Your dog probably freaks out because you look like "you", but don't smell like "you" causing him to be quite confused.


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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: Swami]
    #665919 - 06/06/02 10:54 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I'd have to add that 'vibrations,' whether of a measureable electromagnetic source, or of a subjectively perceived Psi function, is a matter of the 'psychic' domain, not the pneumatic (or as you say, "mystical") domain of experience.* It would seem that many animals are psychically sensitive (e.g., rats abandoning a ship before a sinking incident; dogs howling and carrying on a great distance from where their human has died; etc.) Whereas scent may well change for a number of biochemical reasons, this physical fact does not account for every phenomenon.

* These 'domains' belong to an ancient taxonomy dating to 1st century Christianity, among the Gnostics, and recently with Ken Wilber and other transpersonal philosophers and psychologists.


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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #665923 - 06/06/02 10:58 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

^^^^ just said something that only he probably understands.

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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: Swami]
    #666145 - 06/06/02 01:39 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Swami's right about a dog's sense of smell. Tests with Bloodhounds have shown that the dogs could detect a concentration of urine down to 1 part per 6 million. (I'm sure they can smell other things equally as well, but that's what they tested with)

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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #666181 - 06/06/02 02:04 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Whereas scent may well change for a number of biochemical reasons, this physical fact does not account for every phenomenon.
I apologize for not debunking every possible animal / human myth. Somehow I thought responding to the issue in question was enough.

It would seem that many animals are psychically sensitive (e.g., rats abandoning a ship before a sinking incident
Wow, what a great mystery! Most shipboard rats live in the bilges which would be the first compartment to fill with water, driving the rats up towards the deck.

...dogs howling and carrying on a great distance from where their human has died...
Dogs howl and carry on when no one has died. There is no causal link.




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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: Swami]
    #666805 - 06/07/02 12:40 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Apparently, your own world of experience does not include any 'paranormal' phenonenon, synchronicities (acausal connections), or, for that matter 'mystery,'
(not merely that which has yet to be explained by simple physical reductionism, according to the philosophy of pure materialism).
It would be helpful for you to develop some faith in the perceptions and interpretations of others, to supplement your own seemingly impoverished inner world. Sarcasm, arrogance and condescension only underline your need to consider the perceptions of others.


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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #666914 - 06/07/02 04:44 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

It would be helpful for you to develop some faith in the perceptions and interpretations of others, to supplement your own seemingly impoverished inner world.

I start with a rational explanation about a dog's sense of smell and instantly this becomes about my "impoverished inner world". That is a tall leap, Markos and quite a judgement.

People are inherently superstitious and see and believe all kinds of patterns that have no meaning. I fail to see how accepting someone's erroneous perception can fill some "inner void". Yes, social interaction and grace can sometimes be more important than actual truth, but this is a discussion board not a tea party.


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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: Swami]
    #667069 - 06/07/02 07:03 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I wasnt trying to make everyone believe that a dog or whatever knows when your tripping by looking at your eyes. I was just making a suggestion as of why maby she knows that im tripping or something is wrong. Im not trying to create a "myth" like you say. Sorry if it sounded so confusing but I still dont understand what you wrote about a dogs sense of smell while your tripping. Once again, im not trying to create a false myth, so dont jump my ass next time I am just making a suggestion.

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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: ]
    #667091 - 06/07/02 07:20 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Sorry if it sounded so confusing but I still dont understand what you wrote about a dogs sense of smell while your tripping.
What is hard to understand? Your body chemistry (and hence: smell) are affected by what you put into it. Common examples would be garlic, tobacco, alcohol. People on LSD frequently get sweaty palms and a peculiar odor. I am unable to detect another's odor on psilocybin, but a dog might.

Offering a plausible explanation which is what you asked for, is hardly "jumping on your ass".


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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: Swami]
    #667136 - 06/07/02 07:47 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Ok, sorry, I thought you were just bitching about me trying to create another false myth story which I wasnt. Thanks for writing that in terms that a pothead could understand. For some reason when I kept reading it, it just wasnt making sense to me. But maby thats cause I was somewhat high/burnt. I understand what your saying, but I like my suggestion better

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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: Swami]
    #667144 - 06/07/02 07:52 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

LSD is odeorless, tasteless and colorless so I doubt that sweaty palms are letting the dog know you are high.

He knows you are a lttle diffeent by instinct that you are behaving diffeerently then you mormaly do, maybe at a higher frequency of thought and vibrations emenating form your spirit.

I do know that most dogs and cats will not eat mushrooms where as quirrels love amanita as do bears and deer and other four-leggeg woodland critters. However they do not go eat psilocybine mushrooms from stashes and neither do cats. These ferel animals tend to know beforehand what is tsty for them and what is not, usually rejeting eating something if it odes not smellup to their expectations.

mj.

Also remember slugs love mushrooms and many animals can eat food items that would poison humans and vice-versa.

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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: Swami]
    #668337 - 06/08/02 03:58 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Has absolutely nothing to do with smell, only behavior. Don't let dogs get near senile people or people with alzheimers. Spaced out behavior freaks dogs the fuck out.



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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: turpentine]
    #668343 - 06/08/02 04:07 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

A freind of mine has a dog that will walk around at parties, and "accidentally" knock over people's beers with her ass, then turn around and drink it. she gets all fucked up and stumbles around the house.

Don't give dogs psychedelics.



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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #668408 - 06/08/02 05:08 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

I dropped acid with a guy once who owned a couple of dogs. The dogs were acting really weird and wouldn't leave us alone. At the time we thought they could somehow sense we were tripping. The next day my friend told me he had worked out why the dogs were acting so strange... he was so high on acid he had forgotten to feed them!!

not everything has a paranormal explanation

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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: mjshroomer]
    #668694 - 06/08/02 09:24 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

LSD is odeorless, tasteless and colorless so I doubt that sweaty palms are letting the dog know you are high.

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Has absolutely nothing to do with smell, only behavior.

The fact that LSD is odorless has absolutely nothing to do with the affects to the human body.

Many people experience anxiety while tripping. Anxiety (fight or flight response) is fear and fear is definiltely known to change one's body chemistry. Dogs can easily detect that.


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Re: FEEDING CANINES CUBIES [Re: why]
    #668696 - 06/08/02 09:26 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

not everything has a paranormal explanation

This board is no more enlightened than any other and superstition abounds. Be careful what you say here lest you be accused of spiritual vacancy.


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