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inthelight
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Salvia Disappointment... Need help
#6580880 - 02/18/07 09:46 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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yesterday I have prepared my self to use salvia, I never used any other drugs and my intention of using salvia was spiritual, I bought 10x salvia, a bong and a torch lighter,loaded bowl with 2 pinches of salvia and I took many hits by loading bowl many times holding about 20-30 secs nothing happened just felt a little buzz.. it was total disappointment, I don't know whether 10x is low dosage for me or I'm doing something wrong?? you guys have any suggestion or similar problems that you finally got over it ? any comments welcome.
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: inthelight]
#6580898 - 02/18/07 09:53 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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dosent take a rocket scientist to figure out that u need to smoke more.
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some people are hard heads. smoking more may help, but also just trying a few times (over the course of a few days / weeks) may prove to work.
I know some people that have smoked almost a full gram of 20x in one sitting without feeling anything. Most people though, will feel even the smallest hit of 5x.
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: kotik]
#6580945 - 02/18/07 10:17 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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well I did smoke more than half of the gram nothing happened , I guess I'm immune... do you thinking smoking 20x or 40x would help even for hard heads ? :P
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: inthelight]
#6580947 - 02/18/07 10:19 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Get the hottest flame you possibly can. If necessary, steal a powerful flame thrower from a military facility. Breathing in heavily and heating is a lot more important than how long you hold it for. 40x should work.
Were you using a flavoured salvia mix? If you were, usually about half of what you get is flavourings, and the rest is salvia.
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: EllisDSox]
#6580971 - 02/18/07 10:31 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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nope I bought the one without flavourings, its original flavour doesn't bother me at all
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: inthelight]
#6581066 - 02/18/07 11:20 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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The hot flame is not necessary unless you're smoking plain leaf. As uarewotueat said. smoke more. Always keep the smoke in for 20sec before exhaling..
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: Nalim]
#6581080 - 02/18/07 11:27 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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for me 10x led to a breakthrough the first time. i held the hit for more than i can remember since i was full blown tripping before i knew what hit me and i can't remember blowing the hit out. you say you haven't used drugs before? your technique for hitting a bong might not be what it needs to be for you to get an effective hit. i know when i started smoking being able to roast the bowl and clear the chamber took a while to get down. but maybe you are immune and need something like 25x. good luck in your quest for an adventure with salvia
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: SlashOZ]
#6581113 - 02/18/07 11:41 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Excellent diagnosis: the problem is probably inability to take a big enough rip and hold it..
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: Nalim]
#6581237 - 02/18/07 12:14 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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I say you need to pull it in deeper. I've been playing with salvia recently, and if you dont pull it in deep in your lungs, and hold it, nothing will happen. - Good luck
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: ZiggyGT]
#6581521 - 02/18/07 01:35 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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thanx guys, I ordered new batch today hopefully I'll be able to enter salvia world
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: inthelight]
#6581543 - 02/18/07 01:40 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Were you using a flavoured salvia mix? If you were, usually about half of what you get is flavourings, and the rest is salvia.
They're flavoring it now? Geez........
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: Dark_Star]
#6581576 - 02/18/07 01:48 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, my thought exactly, why the hell are they do that? More youth oriented perhaps?
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: Nalim]
#6581667 - 02/18/07 02:09 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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chances are, 40x will not be any different. I wouldnt give up right away, since there is a reverse tolerance associated with salvia, but sorry to hear it! doesnt take me much at all anymore.
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: inthelight]
#6581709 - 02/18/07 02:15 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hi im new to this forum. I signed in because i had a similar problem... yesterday me and four friends bought salvia 6x and 10x, i think about 1 gram each (i cant really tell, they were really small bags). So we smoked all of it with a water pipe, taking one hit each and passing it around.. i may have smoked 3 hits of 6x and 2 of 10x. Ok i felt a bit hot.. i was like in a mild stoned/hipnotic state, but thats about it, no hallucinations, no colors becoming brighter, no new dimensions or paranormal encounters.
i was really dissapointed, so i decided to chug 15 grams of nutmeg (never tried it before) two or three hours later. went to sleep and set my alarm for 4 hours of sleep. i thought that when i woke up it would start to kick in. NOTHING.
Some extra facts:
- I was a bit anxious/scared, but that happens when u try a new drug, specially because of the things i heard about salvia - I tried mushrooms before and it was the best thing ever, happiest moment of my life (sad but true) - i weight around 70 kilograms - i bought the salvia in a shop in camden town, london.. im not sure of the quality.
Anyway, any idea of what might have happened? what about the nutmeg? what should i do, i really want to experience Salvia.
thank you for your time
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if none of that works you should try a new vendor. Keep at it though because you are missing out!
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So true: For me salvia is the absolute princess of all drugs
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: inthelight]
#6581838 - 02/18/07 02:44 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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inthelight said: yesterday I have prepared my self to use salvia, I never used any other drugs and my intention of using salvia was spiritual, I bought 10x salvia, a bong and a torch lighter,loaded bowl with 2 pinches of salvia and I took many hits by loading bowl many times holding about 20-30 secs nothing happened just felt a little buzz.. it was total disappointment, I don't know whether 10x is low dosage for me or I'm doing something wrong?? you guys have any suggestion or similar problems that you finally got over it ? any comments welcome.
thanks in advance
salvia has a backwards tolerence, it may take a few times to get it to work, it took me atleast 5 trials to get a breakthrough
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: highdroponics]
#6581907 - 02/18/07 03:03 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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also it has been mentioned just briefly in this thread but the quality and source of the salvia can have some effect on the effectivness of the drug.
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: SlashOZ]
#6581930 - 02/18/07 03:10 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah most defenately, thats why im ordering some plants soon myself, ill know the quality of my own product. once i get it really growing good ill be offering free plants as long as people provide shipping costs.
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: SlashOZ]
#6581931 - 02/18/07 03:10 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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yo really quick question, how many times can you smoke salvia in a day? Do you think its bad to smoke it a bunch of times in one day or in one week?
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: dcstar500]
#6581939 - 02/18/07 03:14 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Never smoked more than once in a day myself, but others have said that it works wonderfully.. Many times a week is absolutely no problem, at least not for me..
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: Nalim]
#6582175 - 02/18/07 04:40 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's probably it....it fucking sucks dude, one step closer to a ban. Fucking greedy pricks, screwing it up for everyone else.
deeplydisturbed; nutmeg
that's not worth doing. Period.
As to the salvia, keep on trying. It only gave me mild effects at best....though it did hype up dream activity. I moved on to other things, then a couple years later started musing on it again. I got some 6x, tried a bit as a "tester".....and was straight up floored. Anyone else get this weird organic.....elvish (for the lack of a better word, as these.....beings are something a LOT weirder than elves) presence/entity contact from salvia? Beyond the curtain indeed.
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: Dark_Star]
#6583676 - 02/19/07 12:13 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Salvia, like weed, seems to take a few attempts to get a true experience out of people. Be persistent.
Salvia must be smoked deeply and quickly. If you are able to lift the lighter and light it, SMOKE MORE. When it has worked you will not be able to.
Take the smoke deeply into your lungs and hold it for as long as you can.
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: aelephant]
#6583768 - 02/19/07 01:18 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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I agree that you may not be smoking out of the bong correctly. The first two times, I smoked some plain leaf out of a bong, took two hits, and felt a lot of the effects people talk about. I was hallucinating and laughing uncontrollably and stuff. It was the same for my boyfriend. We're both sensitive to pretty much all drugs ever, and everybody's different in that respect. I'd say make sure you're smoking it right, and you really do have to breathe it in deeply.
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: fluffyfluffy]
#6583866 - 02/19/07 01:59 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Salvia must be smoked deeply and quickly. If you are able to lift the lighter and light it, SMOKE MORE. When it has worked you will not be able to.
Is this the way to smoke salvia? Like to get a breakthrough is this a necessity: if you find that you are able to lift the lighter to your mouth and smoke more, you should?
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: dcstar500]
#6584113 - 02/19/07 04:18 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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I do it that way.. As long as I can smoke more I smoke more..
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: Nalim]
#6584183 - 02/19/07 04:49 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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You need to get a bong and load it and take a huge hit big as you can and hold it 15+ seconds, u will then cry for mom and then sober up and sweat and wonder wtf just happened.
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: inthelight]
#6584196 - 02/19/07 04:56 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is so simple. I think the most likely explanation is bunk Salvia. They sell tons of bunk Salvia nowadays so you might have to try a few different vendors to get the good stuff. I recently got 20X which wasn't nearly as strong as the 20X from my previous vendor. It was more like 5X. There are a lot of ripoffs.
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: cybrbeast]
#6588506 - 02/20/07 03:49 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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well my new organic 10x just arrived and to test it I took very small amount to smoke from bong, and after holding 20 secs I forgot counting after my gut started beating like my heart I knew I was feeling the first effects , after I exhaled about 20 secs later I felt I was moving backwards while my eyes were open I saw I was melting along with everything else in to the darkness then I started laughing so hard for like 6 mins lol
so now I know, it wasn't the way I smoked it, it was the extract I bought it later today I will smoke enough to have a trip and will post my report.
thanks everyone
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: inthelight]
#6588549 - 02/20/07 04:39 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wonderful to hear. Happy trails!
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: Nalim]
#6588689 - 02/20/07 06:35 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nast said: Wonderful to hear. Happy trails!
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: dcstar500]
#6588990 - 02/20/07 10:33 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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dcstar500 said:
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Salvia must be smoked deeply and quickly. If you are able to lift the lighter and light it, SMOKE MORE. When it has worked you will not be able to.
Is this the way to smoke salvia? Like to get a breakthrough is this a necessity: if you find that you are able to lift the lighter to your mouth and smoke more, you should?
Yes, and I recommend having someone sitting closely with you while you smoke it because when you have smoked enough you will drop the piece you are using and leave this world.
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: inthelight]
#6589129 - 02/20/07 11:28 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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A: Inhale amnd hold as long as possible B: you need more at once then other people or C Which I consider the most likely shitty 10x one vendors 10x isnt the same as anothers etc.
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is it physically possible to hold your breath so long that you'd pass out (or even die)? I imagine it isnt, but it can feel like it when the salvia is kicking in as you hold the smoke..
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Re: Salvia Disappointment... Need help [Re: Jeroen198]
#6589853 - 02/20/07 03:38 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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if you hold your breath to the point of passing out, your body will automatically start breathing again as soon as you're unconscious. Assuming of course, there's nothing preventing that. (a rope around your neck for example)
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