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Mmush
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Drinking Mycelium
#6572980 - 02/15/07 11:19 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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What about drinking liquid mycelium i´ve heard about 20ml would be a dosis like 3.1gr of psilocybin? any experiences about this ...
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Mmush
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Re: Drinking Mycelium [Re: Mmush]
#6573779 - 02/16/07 06:25 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Is because i have a big bottle with liquid mycelium for my syringes and we was thinkin last night to taking it if it could give us a trip...anyone have done this?
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HeavyToilet
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Re: Drinking Mycelium [Re: Mmush]
#6573994 - 02/16/07 09:29 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Chug dat shit nucca.
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ApJunkie
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try it and report back. there's nothing wrong with being first!
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Re: Drinking Mycelium [Re: ApJunkie]
#6574276 - 02/16/07 11:18 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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How did you get liquid mycelium?
Are you talking about a spore syringe? becuase those won't get you high man lol
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creamcorn
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heh
a 20ml syringe even if packed with mycelial culture is going to have like 100mg of dried mycelium product in it, tops...
not to mention mycelium doesn't really produce any active ingredients in any significant quantity until the time it begins fruiting
so we're talking less than 1/10th of a gram of basically inactive mycelium... you do the math... 3 gram trip? hahaha... no.
to make this work you'll probably have to drink a few gallons, and even then be lucky if you catch a mild buzz. good luck with that.
use your liquid culture to grow mushrooms. and use some common sense... if all you had to do was drink a small amount of liquid culture to trip why do you think people would bother to actually grow mushrooms?
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Re: Drinking Mycelium [Re: creamcorn]
#6574563 - 02/16/07 12:32 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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creamcorn said: why do you think people would bother to actually grow mushrooms?
Now there's a way of thinking that will keep you from ever innovating.
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He's right though, you should do your research first. Otherwise you could end up wasting time and money when you didn't have to, or you could go nuckin futs, which isn't necessarily bad, but could be terrifying if you didn't see it coming.
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creamcorn
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PFC said:
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creamcorn said: why do you think people would bother to actually grow mushrooms?
Now there's a way of thinking that will keep you from ever innovating.
Well feel free to look through my post history. I've innovated and contributed much to the most popular and recent developments in cultivation.
Experimentation and innovation is all well and good but you need to focus on things that are actually POSSIBLE to come up with useful results. The idea of getting actives out of liquid cultured mycelium has been disproven and discredited for the reasons I've explained. Its not idle speculation... its tested and proven already. People have prepared the stuff in 55 gallon drums using specially formulated nutrient broths, drained & dried, and attempted otherwise working extraction methods only to come up with... almost 0 active product. Now put that in the perspective of 20mls of solution. Its all documented on these very forums, if you'll only take a moment to do some research.
You've heard the saying "why reinvent the wheel?".... well in this case its more like "why reinvent the flat tire"... Now lets move on and consider more useful ideas...
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Re: Drinking Mycelium [Re: creamcorn]
#6575475 - 02/16/07 05:59 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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cc is 100% correct.
the rewards of getting your own mushrooms extend far greater than just eating them.
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Mmush
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Well guys i´ve made lots of syringes and that night that i posted like at 4am we was all night angry because my jars got contaminated by 4th time... so we drunk like 6-10ml and we really got wicked hehehe...i´ve inoculated the 14th and havent checked my rubbermaid just opened to ventilate and thats it tomorrow maybe they´ve started to colonize i hope so
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Re: Drinking Mycelium [Re: Mmush]
#6577400 - 02/17/07 07:33 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've had very good experiences with that using grapefruit juice to help extract alkaloids from the mycelium and mask the taste. damn i got a pretty good trip but it wasn't near what just taking my mushrooms was. I'd just reccomend taking your mycelium and growing mushrooms with it
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TROUBLE202007
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for real man
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i mean if you blenderize mycelium and drank it (if you can bear the taste) you would trip pretty hard. the best i can do is make tea which only gets a small portion of the psilocybin out im sure.
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Mmush
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Quote:
TROUBLE202007 said: I've had very good experiences with that using grapefruit juice to help extract alkaloids from the mycelium and mask the taste. damn i got a pretty good trip but it wasn't near what just taking my mushrooms was. I'd just reccomend taking your mycelium and growing mushrooms with it
Lol, but i´m now in the waiting part so i decided to drink a little bit of mycelium by the way, how many ml aprx. did you drank that time?
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Re: Drinking Mycelium [Re: Mmush]
#6580950 - 02/18/07 10:20 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, go ahead and drink a ton of mycelicum. While you are at it, dig up some marijuana roots and chew on them. Brew them in a tea if you like. Have fun.
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Creamcorn = Egg head
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Has anyone here ever tried knocking back a pint sized liquid culture? I dont think it would taste all that bad with malt or honey water either.
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It's worth a shot if you have some to spare.
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Freedom
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Here is a document that addresses this question:
http://www.shroomery.org/64/The-Foolproof-Psilocybe-Cubensis-Mycelial-Culture-Technique
I have not tried this. I supose this method requires fewer steps.
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creamcorn
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Re: Drinking Mycelium [Re: Freedom]
#6583466 - 02/18/07 10:52 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Freedom said: Here is a document that addresses this question:
http://www.shroomery.org/64/The-Foolproof-Psilocybe-Cubensis-Mycelial-Culture-Technique
I have not tried this. I supose this method requires fewer steps.
first off this is different than a liquid culture. this can work because the mycelium is much more established and nears a fruiting stage. as mentioned actives aren't produced in significant amounts until you get to this stage. one other thing to consider:
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For each quart canning jar of 300g rye + 300g water, you get one really strong dose or two conservative doses (This is with my strain of Psilocybe cubensis -- your mileage may vary -- start with a 1/4 jar dose and work up). You should wait about 2 weeks after complete permeation for maximum potency. Make sure that you use organic rye! If it is no labeled, it is probably grown with fungicides that will absolutely guarantee failure.
300g of rye grain, using the bioefficiency formula (look it up in the cultivation forum if curious) in best case scenario, can potentially produce around 4 dry ounces of mushrooms. even assuming good sized 3.5 gram doses that's 32 doses. "extracting" from all that mycelium, according to the guide is one or two doses. this is ridiculously inefficient. if you wanted to go that route, something you can produce in a jar without formally producing mushrooms, at least look into sclerotia producing species. you'll still get several times more doses with the same amount of materials and effort...
but whatever, if you guys are dead set on ignoring common sense, experiments of the past that show culturing mycelium in a liquid broth does not yield any significant amounts of actives, and referring to me as an "egg head" knock yourself out... bottoms up on those liquid culture...
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