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Eating Organic
    #6558678 - 02/12/07 03:13 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

What do you guys think about eating organic?

I eat probably 90% organic, basically everything I can though sometimes I snack on things that aren't the healthiest, and these usually aren't organic.

I eat it because pesticides, herbicides, and chemical fertilizers are 1. bad for the earth, and 2. bad for me.

I live in a place where there is a lot of organic farms and a high consiousness surrounding this way of life. Most of the people I know try to eat as much organic as possible, though a lot have to sacrifice because of the cost of eating organic. I just suffer, don't buy as much, or at least just put more money to eating quality rather then maybe going out on a friday night or something.

Im wondering how many people here think eating organic is important. How much organic foods do people eat, and what do they have to skimp on.

Also what are peoples reasons for eating organic.


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Re: Eating Organic [Re: mattymonkey]
    #6559096 - 02/12/07 04:57 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I eat both Organic and Non-Organic Foods.Most of the organic food that I buy is dry food like rye,wheat and spet flour and other baking stuff. That I like to use for my sour dough starters.


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Re: Eating Organic [Re: Brainiac]
    #6559238 - 02/12/07 05:26 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

once in a blue moon my boyfriend and i will buy organic, but in the summer i have fruit trees at home, and a garden. all organic! but when it comes to shopping, genrally the organic section is pretty pricey, and we dont usually go out of our way to buy it. we generally eat pretty healthy, when it comes to meat, we usually make a point of buying organic.


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Re: Eating Organic [Re: Brainiac]
    #6560482 - 02/12/07 09:29 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

ooj


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Re: Eating Organic [Re: Galvie_Flu]
    #6562417 - 02/13/07 10:49 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I'm much more picky about my meat than anything else. I only buy organic produce if it's noticeably better looking than the standard (when given a choice). I managed a produce department for a couple years and I've seen how much faster organic starts to degrade. I'm just very careful about washing produce, always use some sort of citrus wash to get all that wax and shit off my apples. Peppers, broccoli, carrots, tomatoes, beans and herbs; I grow myself.

I only buy grain fed, free range chicken and hormone/ preservative free beef. A lot of fish (especially fresh water) I buy farm raised. You don't want to eat a catfish that's been bottom feeding and living off shit its whole life.


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Re: Eating Organic [Re: Brewmaster]
    #6563109 - 02/13/07 02:15 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Brewmaster said:
You don't want to eat a catfish that's been bottom feeding and living off shit its whole life.




so why is eating mushrooms ok?


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Re: Eating Organic [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #6563348 - 02/13/07 03:36 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Because mushrooms don't eat shit?

I don't eat mushrooms anyway.


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On storing pedro tea...

Brewmaster: Well, the mescaline will still be in there, but I'd be afraid of it conjealing and trying to escape after it grew in size from eating all the other shit in my fridge, and possibly my dogs if it got out.

Pithlit: sentient drugs, now that is an idea ...

OneMoreRobot: Idea? It's a fuckin' reality. You know Salvia? Nigga stole my TV.


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Re: Eating Organic [Re: Brewmaster]
    #6563794 - 02/13/07 05:39 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

thats great people are aware of the dangers of eating non organic animal products, i agree its possibly the one place you really dont want to skimp out on

i too think growin your own is the best and most healty way of getting produce, grain production is really intensive so it makes sense to buy that but the less you  buy the better off youll be

thanks for everyones comments :smile:


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Re: Eating Organic [Re: mattymonkey]
    #6564131 - 02/13/07 07:01 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

as far as organic veggies, unless you're buying locally and know for a fact they don't use any synth. ferts./pesticides, commercial organic growers can still use a wide range of synth. chemicals on their "organic" products.

So if you're buying in-store, it's not worth the extra money



best bet is to grow your own :smile:


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Re: Eating Organic [Re: demiu5]
    #6565346 - 02/14/07 12:47 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I think eating organic free range meat and eggs is important.

In a recent argument with a cynical ex-roommate, he was bugging me about it. Maybe im just paranoid by conspiracy - but i feel that there's a direct correlation between what we eat and "getting bigger, developing younger, and being less immune/more-sick and diseased.

I think that hormones and preservatives put into commercial meat have a great impact on our lives.

Also, organic meat usually looks better, is bigger, and tastes 10 fold better than its steroid laden, food deprived, drugged up imitator.

With fruits and veggies, i don't care so much - but i do like organic avacados and tomato's, i find their taste and consistancy to be especially better. I prefere non organic banana's..

I also think its important to recognize that.. yes, even i.. feel better about eating organic. I am not alone.. Regrettably this is a relative effect of the "pro organic" marketing, and the movement as a whole. Its a similar psychology to "the charity effect" - when someone gives to a cause and feels better through placebo - even if the charity is mostly administration fee's.

We feel better because we're brainwashed through the industry to.

This isn't entirely true, but.. is something reasonable to think about.

What do you guys think?


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Re: Eating Organic [Re: PDU]
    #6565750 - 02/14/07 06:16 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I feel better not because Im brainwashed, but because it actually is better for the Earth, i agree with you that large business getting into the organic market are taking advantage of this but its not the only reason.

as far as fruits and veggies go, the more liquidy the fruit, the more it will have a lot of the pesticices etc in it. I believe it stays mostly in the water in te fruit. so strawberries, citrus, etc, will most likely have more of the nasties in it. Sorry I dont have anythin to back me up on this, peraps its just intuition.


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Re: Eating Organic [Re: Brewmaster]
    #6569358 - 02/14/07 11:40 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Brewmaster said:
Because mushrooms don't eat shit?






o rly?







I think, for the most part, organic foods are bogus. There is no indication where the "hormones" used, or the herbicides, or the feed used impacts our lives in a negative way. All of the methods developed to increase production has increased our lifespans and has alleviate hunger in most areas. Ever hear of Henry Beachell or Norman Borlaug? Heroes.

But hey, the moral satisfaction organic foods gives to some people is probably very good.


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Re: Eating Organic [Re: zathan]
    #6569626 - 02/15/07 01:40 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

www.rawvolution.com

They have an awesome cook book for organic food. BTW if you are near Santa Monica check it out, their food is amazing.


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Re: Eating Organic [Re: zathan] * 1
    #6569966 - 02/15/07 07:49 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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There is no indication where the "hormones" used, or the herbicides, or the feed used impacts our lives in a negative way.




Yeah, who doesn't want to see 8 year olds with double D tits?


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On storing pedro tea...

Brewmaster: Well, the mescaline will still be in there, but I'd be afraid of it conjealing and trying to escape after it grew in size from eating all the other shit in my fridge, and possibly my dogs if it got out.

Pithlit: sentient drugs, now that is an idea ...

OneMoreRobot: Idea? It's a fuckin' reality. You know Salvia? Nigga stole my TV.


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Re: Eating Organic [Re: Brewmaster]
    #6571743 - 02/15/07 05:50 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Brewmaster said:
Quote:

There is no indication where the "hormones" used, or the herbicides, or the feed used impacts our lives in a negative way.




Yeah, who doesn't want to see 8 year olds with double D tits?





Modern early puberty in kids is a direct result of better nutrition and health care as the years progress.

But here

http://www.sunherald.com/mld/thesunherald/living/16673794.htm


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Re: Eating Organic [Re: zathan]
    #6573973 - 02/16/07 09:17 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

In my opinion, early puberty (within the last 50 years) is related to the meat and dairy explosion that barley started within the last 50 years.


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Re: Eating Organic [Re: mattymonkey]
    #6578763 - 02/17/07 03:27 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

i see organic as a good thing. But now with FDA control. Corporated farms are allowed to use x amount of chemicals while still being "organic" thus supplying the concious eaters a healthier product. But it also degrades the quality, because of set standards and allowances.

Bring back the local growers and small time farmers. Bring back the people that really care about the earth and the food we eat. I want the fruit the vegetables to be raised with a passion a concious act of nurturing and raising, to the highest quality. With the soul mission of nurishing the earth and living in balance.

Each town should have it's farmers. One guy raises free range chicken, one guy grows vegetables, another grows fruits another grows mushrooms. Each town should have it's own market, where the local products are shaired.

Like other countries do it.

Screw regulations and industrialised manufacturing, we are not machines that need sythesized nutrients. We need good food god damnit!

If my art falls threw i know i will be a great farmer. I will have the best vegetables and mushrooms of the highest quality grown with love and respect.

Long live sustainable living and permaculture!

Hear hear!


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Re: Eating Organic [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #6579361 - 02/17/07 07:18 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

:smile:


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Re: Eating Organic [Re: mattymonkey]
    #6579702 - 02/17/07 09:20 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I buy almost all my fresh food from the farmer's market and think seasonal and local is more important than "organic." I'm especially picky about animal products. I'd rather go without milk, cheese, eggs and milk than eat mass-produced products. I don't want to eat some animal that had a miserable stunted life swimming in its own shit and eating the processed remains of its forbearers.

I live in a city so I'm pretty separated from the production of my food but going to the farmer's market every few days gives me an opportunity to know the people that grow and raise my food because I can't do it myself. I would totally get into urban farming if I could, like having a bee hive and some egg-laying chickens on my roof would be so cool. Hopefully in the future more cities will encourage small-scale agriculture.


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Re: Eating Organic [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #6579841 - 02/17/07 10:07 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

We've got a local farmers market twice a week, in the summer. Everything from organic local honey, to corn, soap, carrots, potatoes, rubarb, salsa, etc. -- really good values too.

We also have local organic poultry, beef, and buffalo (and Elk) at the local grocer!


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