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 Plan to vaccinate kids against drugs [UK] 
#6553752 - 02/11/07 11:23 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Plan to vaccinate kids against drugs
February 11, 2007 - thisislondon.co.uk
Babies could be vaccinated with brain-altering chemicals to stop them getting hooked on drugs and cigarettes in later life, it is reported today.
Newborns would have jabs which could prevent addiction to cocaine, heroin or tobacco, under secret Downing Street plans.
Details of the extraordinary proposal to stop the annual £20 billion cost of drug misuse are in a leaked No 10 policy document.
Scientists have already developed a drug called naltrexone that eases heroin withdrawal symptoms.
A cocaine vaccine called TA-CD has now been developed, the document says. Ministers could also crack down on drug dens by having the post scanned for supplies using modern technology, while police helicopters would use revolutionary laser radar systems to test the air for chemicals used to make drugs.
The document, reportedly being considered by Tony Blair's working group on crime, talks of "immunotherapies" developed in secret to protect a generation.
It says: "A young person could be immunised and the drugs would never reach or affect the brain. Drug-related crimes could be reduced if vaccines can be successfully developed to reduce the craving."
Heath ministers and the General Medical Council have already objected. Figures last year from the European Monitoring Centre on Drugs and Drugs Addiction revealed Britain is in the top three EU nations for the number of cocaine users.
Statistics also show nine per cent of 11- to 15-year-olds smoke.
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Re: Plan to vaccinate kids against drugs [UK] [Re: veggie]
#6553761 - 02/11/07 11:28 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Brave new world.
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"The finest emotion of which we are capable is the mystic emotion. Herein lies the germ of all art and all true science. Anyone to whom this feeling is alien, who is no longer capable of wonderment and lives in a state of fear is a dead man. To know that what is impenatrable for us really exists and manifests itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty, whose gross forms alone are intelligible to our poor faculties - this knowledge, this feeling ... that is the core of the true religious sent iment. In this sense, and in this sense alone, I rank myself amoung profoundly religious men."
-Albert Einstein
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 Re: Plan to vaccinate kids against drugs [UK] [Re: veggie]
#6554316 - 02/11/07 02:33 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Welcome to 1984. Please check your self responsibility at the door and surrender any self worth. Your government knows what's best for your body.
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j3ckyl
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Re: Plan to vaccinate kids against drugs [UK] [Re: Sheepish]
#6554345 - 02/11/07 02:41 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is being very strongly objected. Consider this: The vaccinations work on the principal that it would make anti-bodies to tackle the molecule when it arrives in the system, a child immunised against the effects of cocaine or heroin would be unable then to reap the benefits of opiate based pain-killers and 'caine anaesthetics. In principal these people would have to undergo painful surgery without said painkillers. If the vaccinations were to be used on adults this would inevitably lead to adults overdosing by trying to combat the effects of the vaccination by consuming bigger quantities. This will not get passed from a medical standpoint let alone the ethical implications it carries.
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Isnt the war on drugs supposed to reduce harm? So far all i see are casualties.
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Re: Plan to vaccinate kids against drugs [UK] [Re: j3ckyl]
#6554565 - 02/11/07 03:44 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not to mention that no parent in their right mind would approve to injecting their newborn with a chemical that has "just been developed".
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Re: Plan to vaccinate kids against drugs [UK] [Re: TurricaN]
#6554661 - 02/11/07 04:08 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do they really call injections "jabs" in the UK?
Sounds horrible...
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Re: Plan to vaccinate kids against drugs [UK] [Re: Madtowntripper]
#6554995 - 02/11/07 06:14 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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And what protein in the vaccine sits in fatty tissue for 30 years only to turn into a terminal cancer that is too far beyond to be treated, who pays for health care, taxes or a mistaken government?
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Re: Plan to vaccinate kids against drugs [UK] [Re: Thrash]
#6556362 - 02/11/07 10:58 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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If it was optional i would like it, maybe for people who have no self-control. Seems that it would be nice to have that and still be able to get high, but from what I read there I guess it doesn't work that way. I think less junkies are good, but optionally only. I'm guessing it won't get very far though. Too controversial.
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Re: Plan to vaccinate kids against drugs [UK] [Re: j3ckyl]
#6557663 - 02/12/07 11:02 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
j3ckyl said:
This is being very strongly objected. Consider this: The vaccinations work on the principal that it would make anti-bodies to tackle the molecule when it arrives in the system, a child immunised against the effects of cocaine or heroin would be unable then to reap the benefits of opiate based pain-killers and 'caine anaesthetics. In principal these people would have to undergo painful surgery without said painkillers. If the vaccinations were to be used on adults this would inevitably lead to adults overdosing by trying to combat the effects of the vaccination by consuming bigger quantities. This will not get passed from a medical standpoint let alone the ethical implications it carries.
Well said bro
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