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Tobacco alternative?
    #6543409 - 02/08/07 06:43 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Does anyone know of a plant that can substitute tobacco in my joints? I've quit smoking, but I still smoke joints. I don't want to get addicted to joints because my brain starts to associate nicotine with joints.
Preferably something that doesn't have an overwhelming taste.


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Re: Tobacco alternative? [Re: cybrbeast]
    #6543485 - 02/08/07 07:44 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Tobacco alternative? [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #6543498 - 02/08/07 07:59 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

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weed :smile:




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Re: Tobacco alternative? [Re: ApJunkie]
    #6543502 - 02/08/07 08:03 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

yes


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Re: Tobacco alternative? [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #6543508 - 02/08/07 08:06 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

anything else...

maybe peppermint?...

well...you can use almost anything...


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Re: Tobacco alternative? [Re: cybrbeast]
    #6543629 - 02/08/07 09:12 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I knew a girl once that grew mint to dry, and mix with her joints.

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Re: Tobacco alternative? [Re: rod]
    #6543742 - 02/08/07 10:31 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

i'm doing that too ;P...

don't know...has a smooth feeling to me...


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Re: Tobacco alternative? [Re: rod]
    #6544794 - 02/08/07 05:09 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

That sounds like a fun idea. Looks like I'll be growing some mint this season.


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Re: Tobacco alternative? [Re: geedorah]
    #6544827 - 02/08/07 05:16 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Kinnick Kinnick is good. I quit smoking cigs a while back. Kinnick Kinnick was a good replacement for tobacco. It's a nice relaxing Native American smoking blend. Makes you feel sedate and calm and has a nice smooth, as well as unique flavor. I would assume it would go well with some buds. You could even use it to stretch your stash (so to speak). I like to smoke Kinnick Kinnick to unwind every once in a while, does the trick every time.

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Re: Tobacco alternative? [Re: entheoindole]
    #6545509 - 02/08/07 08:08 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Tobacco alternative? [Re: entheoindole]
    #6545611 - 02/08/07 08:26 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

can you buy that at a tobacco/pipe store?

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Re: Tobacco alternative? [Re: wearejellyfish]
    #6545633 - 02/08/07 08:30 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

probably not, check online somewhere

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Re: Tobacco alternative? [Re: cpw1971]
    #6545807 - 02/08/07 09:08 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Catnip maybe.

How about a un-tainted joint only containing herb?

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Re: Tobacco alternative? [Re: AKSE]
    #6545888 - 02/08/07 09:25 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

He he he....I have a good one.....HASH The paper of this joint is made of pressed hash.


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Re: Tobacco alternative? [Re: Magash]
    #6545989 - 02/08/07 09:54 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

That is beautiful. Ofcourse Magash posts it.

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Re: Tobacco alternative? [Re: entheoindole]
    #6546799 - 02/09/07 05:14 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

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Kinnick Kinnick is good. I quit smoking cigs a while back. Kinnick Kinnick was a good replacement for tobacco. It's a nice relaxing Native American smoking blend. Makes you feel sedate and calm and has a nice smooth, as well as unique flavor. I would assume it would go well with some buds. You could even use it to stretch your stash (so to speak). I like to smoke Kinnick Kinnick to unwind every once in a while, does the trick every time.



Sounds good. Doesn't it contain nicotine though?
I don't have to worry about my stash, not yet at least

:smirk:

To all those people who say I should smoke my joint pure and unadulterated. That's just not the way I do it, so lay off. I like to smoke a few joints and get a nice stone going not instantly lock myself on the couch. I don't know what you are smoking, but if I smoke a couple of pure joints I'm floored. Also I would just have smoked an eighth in one sitting.
So I mix, it also gives me a smooth smoke which I prefer. I don't use cigarette tobacco btw, I use rolling tobacco which is a lot smoother and better tasting.


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Re: Tobacco alternative? [Re: cybrbeast]
    #6547095 - 02/09/07 09:49 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I dont use cigarette tobacco either I use rolling tobacco for the same reasons, cant even smoke joints made with cigarettes. I don't smoke plain cigs anymore, used to, did so for about 3 years and never got addicted, never enjoyed it. Not even really sure why I kept it up so long. Someone is probably thinking 3 years and not addicted? It's true, I literally quit overnight I never got cravings for cigarettes and could smoke a 20 deck one day and not be bothered for another couple of days. Weed on the other hand, totally different, I digress. I was looking for a good locally available tobacco alternative and will say to check your local health shop. Most places that sell natural extracts and stuff like that will sell nicotine free tobacco alternatives. They come in both cigarette and rolling pouch form.


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Re: Tobacco alternative? [Re: cybrbeast]
    #6548128 - 02/09/07 04:26 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

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Kinnick Kinnick is good. I quit smoking cigs a while back. Kinnick Kinnick was a good replacement for tobacco. It's a nice relaxing Native American smoking blend. Makes you feel sedate and calm and has a nice smooth, as well as unique flavor. I would assume it would go well with some buds. You could even use it to stretch your stash (so to speak). I like to smoke Kinnick Kinnick to unwind every once in a while, does the trick every time.



Sounds good. Doesn't it contain nicotine though?
I don't have to worry about my stash, not yet at least

:smirk:

To all those people who say I should smoke my joint pure and unadulterated. That's just not the way I do it, so lay off. I like to smoke a few joints and get a nice stone going not instantly lock myself on the couch. I don't know what you are smoking, but if I smoke a couple of pure joints I'm floored. Also I would just have smoked an eighth in one sitting.
So I mix, it also gives me a smooth smoke which I prefer. I don't use cigarette tobacco btw, I use rolling tobacco which is a lot smoother and better tasting.



No there is not a single lick of nicotine in the Kinninck Kinnick I smoke. Although there are some versions of the blend that include Nicotania rustica and/or tobaccum.

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Lobelia



Lobelia has been used as a smoking cessation aid, it would probably make a good additive to Kinnick Kinnick. 

I'll post a small excerpt about Kinnick Kinnick soon so anyone who is interested can research it's constituents.

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Kinnick Kinnick (A Native American Somking Blend) [Re: entheoindole]
    #6548163 - 02/09/07 04:46 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I love Kinnick Kinnick. This smoking blend is so soothing and relaxing. I want to share it with everyone who doesn't know about it. The following paragraphs include some details about the various ingredients wich make up Kinnick Kinnick. Anyone who is interested in kinnick Kinnick, give it a try, you'll like it but don't expect it to be like the ganja though; you'll be disappointed... :wink:

Kinnick kinnick is a traditional mixture used when smoking the sacred pipe (or peace pipe). It is made from five different traditional herbs, each bringing a different attribute to the mixture. It is also acceptable to burn it separately, say in a shell or bowl without a pipe.

Yerba santa is widely used by Native Americans and was particularly famed for its ability to ward off negativity and provide an element of protection. The leaves were often carried by individuals to boost their spiritual strength and, in incense form; it's still used today in a healing capacity. As such, it's an ideal incense to choose if you want to bring an air of healing, protection or increase positive vibes in an environment.

Bearberry leaves are used during ceremony, as they contain antiseptic and astringent properties, which help cleanse and purify the air.

North Americans view osha root as having great power and luck, and as such it's often carried as a lucky talisman. When burnt, it produces a warm and slightly spicy aroma, which is believed to purify the air and also help connect to the higher realms.

Red Willow bark: Willows are regarded by Native Americans as being relatives of the four winds and carries your prayers on the wind and communicates them to the creator. The bark works well in incense and is an important ingredient in sacred smoking ceremonies. It's calming and soothing, making it an ideal herb for use with clearing purposes and during quiet sessions of meditation.

Mullen is regarded as being a protection herb and is used in many situations where extra protection is required. It's also thought to have masculine energy and associations with fire - some traditions have used it when trying to invoke fire elementals - but it's equally helpful when used by men or women. It is a grounding, calming and healing herb.

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Re: Kinnick Kinnick (A Native American Somking Blend) [Re: entheoindole]
    #6548174 - 02/09/07 04:53 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

so i'd like to buy some of that, but i'd rather not buy online.
wouldn't tobacco/pipe stores sell it?

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Re: Kinnick Kinnick (A Native American Somking Blend) [Re: wearejellyfish]
    #6548204 - 02/09/07 05:03 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

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so i'd like to buy some of that, but i'd rather not buy online.
wouldn't tobacco/pipe stores sell it?




You might be able to find it in a Pagan/Wiccan shop or at a herb supplier... A tobacco shop? Probably not.

I've ordered plenty of things online with no problems. There are plenty of reputable vendors for these types of things.

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Re: Kinnick Kinnick (A Native American Somking Blend) [Re: entheoindole]
    #6549761 - 02/10/07 04:38 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Kinnick Kinnick (A Native American Somking Blend) [Re: entheoindole]
    #6549804 - 02/10/07 05:28 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds good. I'll check if my local smartshop has it and otherwise I'll buy it online.

Jeckyl, I also quit overnight and didn't have a really hard time. I did have some cravings for a couple of weeks and I did really enjoy smoking.


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Re: Kinnick Kinnick (A Native American Somking Blend) [Re: BlueDruid]
    #6551116 - 02/10/07 03:57 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

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Hops




I've never tried smoking hops before. What is it like? I've read that it is a mild sedative, is this your experience with it (sedative effect)?

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Re: Kinnick Kinnick (A Native American Somking Blend) [Re: entheoindole]
    #6557579 - 02/12/07 10:25 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

It says on a site im reading that kinnick kinnick isn't typically inhaled, which in my mind defeats the purpose as a tobacco alternative. Can anyone back this up or do y'all just inhale anyway? Any other good alternative smoking mixes, something smooth, pleasantly aromatic and mildly psychoactive....and inhalable. :laugh:


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Re: Kinnick Kinnick (A Native American Somking Blend) [Re: j3ckyl]
    #6557828 - 02/12/07 11:50 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

khoi wood bark , a tree growing in asia that has traditonally been mixed with mj to cool the smoke, ive been experimenting with extracts latly and it works great for mixing with cannabis, it cools down the throad, its really impressing. it also helps some if you have pain in your teeths to chew this bark. i know bark may sound like a poor texture to smoke but when dried and powderized it smokes really ok.

other than that I suggest smoking pedicularis species , just about everyone of them can be smoked

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Re: Kinnick Kinnick (A Native American Somking Blend) [Re: j3ckyl]
    #6559713 - 02/12/07 06:40 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

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It says on a site im reading that kinnick kinnick isn't typically inhaled, which in my mind defeats the purpose as a tobacco alternative. Can anyone back this up or do y'all just inhale anyway? Any other good alternative smoking mixes, something smooth, pleasantly aromatic and mildly psychoactive....and inhalable. :laugh:




I always inhale and I enjoy it down to the last drag!

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Re: Kinnick Kinnick (A Native American Somking Blend) [Re: elsig]
    #6559771 - 02/12/07 06:49 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

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elsig said: other than that I suggest smoking pedicularis species , just about everyone of them can be smoked




Is pedicularis psychoactive in any way or just a nice aromatic smoke?



Edit: I found this link after some searching. Elsig, please disregard the question above. I found my answer on this web site: http://home.teleport.com/~howieb/smoking/smoke1.html. An interesting read.

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Re: Kinnick Kinnick (A Native American Somking Blend) [Re: entheoindole]
    #6565748 - 02/14/07 06:15 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I've never tried smoking hops myself but I've heard of others doing so with some sedative effects.

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Re: Tobacco alternative? [Re: cybrbeast]
    #6570956 - 02/15/07 02:22 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Well, you can try damiana or some other herbs. Search a bit on Erowid and read the experiences? :smile:


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Re: Tobacco alternative? [Re: cybrbeast]
    #6571092 - 02/15/07 03:02 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Hmm i smoke a blend of tobacco, spearmint, lavender, and mullein. 49:1:1:49.

Smoke less per day with the mix. Maybe I can find a tobacco alternative, or maybe soak my tobacco in water and rinse and repeat a few more times.

Hmm maybe that will work. To curb my smoking more, less resins and tars and nic in mac.

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Re: Tobacco alternative? [Re: Tech]
    #6571353 - 02/15/07 04:17 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

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Well, you can try damiana or some other herbs. Search a bit on Erowid and read the experiences? :smile:




I've smoked damiana before. Pretty relaxing smoke, although I didn't enjoy the flavor so much. Dagga is quite relaxing too but the same goes for the flavor of dagga... It wasn't a very pleasant smoke to taste, at least form me it wasn't. But we all know how subjective taste can be; in every sense of the word even! :gethigh:

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Re: Tobacco alternative? [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #6584124 - 02/19/07 04:21 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

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Smoke less per day with the mix. Maybe I can find a tobacco alternative, or maybe soak my tobacco in water and rinse and repeat a few more times.



I didn't think of that, seems like a good idea. Rinsing the tobacco would remove the nicotine, right?


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Re: Tobacco alternative? [Re: cybrbeast]
    #6584129 - 02/19/07 04:22 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, nicotine is very water soluble..


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