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Re: The Official March Madness Thread!!!!!!!! [Re: jewunit]
    #6589293 - 02/20/07 12:33 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Big 12?.. and idk, right now they are going to be lucky just to get in... a lot of people dont have tech in the big dance.


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Re: The Official March Madness Thread!!!!!!!! [Re: Banez]
    #6589351 - 02/20/07 12:56 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

No, Big Six refers to the six traditional power conferences... Big 10, Big 12, Big East, SEC, ACC, Pac-10.
It's not the first time I've used that reference.

And yeah, not too many people have them in, but when teams on the bubble from the big six get in they don't end up being that lowly seeded, those spots are reserved for the low level conferences' automatics.


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Re: The Official March Madness Thread!!!!!!!! [Re: jewunit]
    #6589898 - 02/20/07 03:52 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

true.... im trying to think of that one team thats supposed to be an automatic and supposed to be pretty good.. Marist, i think? they supposedly have this great NBA prospect there

heard anything about them?


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Re: The Official March Madness Thread!!!!!!!! [Re: Banez]
    #6589996 - 02/20/07 04:12 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Jared Jordan led NCAA in assists last year with something ridiculous, like 10.something I think, and I'm pretty sure he's up there again this year. He's pretty good, and Marist is alright, but I would be surprised if they made noise, I saw a couple of their games earlier this year.

Winthrop is the automatic to be talking about, and if they don't win their league I think they'll be the team everyone will be talking about as to whether they should get in or not.


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Re: The Official March Madness Thread!!!!!!!! [Re: jewunit]
    #6590018 - 02/20/07 04:17 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

After a quick trip to ESPN.com I see that Marist is 22-7, which is definitely respectable, but their RPI is 113.

Jared Jordan has 8.6 apg which is 1 more apg than anyone else in the country (Mike Conley Jr is fifth by the way, gotta get my OSU plug in haha), and last year he had 8.5. I don't know why I thought he had 10 something, but still, 8+ apg is really really good. Compare that to his 3.4 turnovers per game, and that's a decent a/t ratio of 2.5something.


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Re: The Official March Madness Thread!!!!!!!! [Re: jewunit]
    #6590036 - 02/20/07 04:19 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

if they dont win their league they dont deserve to be in.. they have such a shit conference. the only other teams in the conference over .500 are High Point and Coastal Carolina.. Wintrop is always decent though

the automatic bid i like is VCU, Virginia Commonwealth.. very underated and leads the league in turnovers forced and points off turnovers, i also think they lead the NCAA in points per game. and they have a better conference with teams like George Mason, Hofstra, Old Dominion and Drexel.

Another automatic I like this year is 20-5 Akron out of the MAC... they are much better than given credit for

and in the Patriot league its a shootout between Holy Cross and Bucknell for the automatic bid, those are 2 programs that usually flip flop getting into the tourney.


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Re: The Official March Madness Thread!!!!!!!! [Re: Banez]
    #6590042 - 02/20/07 04:21 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

yeah... i hadnt followed anything about Marist really, i was reading something the other day about Jared Jordan and didnt know if they had a good shot of getting in or not. as long as they win that conference they will pick up the automatic.


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Re: The Official March Madness Thread!!!!!!!! [Re: Banez]
    #6590090 - 02/20/07 04:31 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

George Mason isn't good.
The only reason they made their run last year is because they were automatic qualifiers.
Drexel isn't really too great either, I only say this because they are way too up and down.
But I can agree the CAA is better than the Big South.

VCU isn't underrated, they get votes for the top 25 week in and week out. I know how you are and you like to pick teams to root for and such, but just because one team that's not usually a power is doing well doesn't mean their underrated. Not everyone can get national attention.

As for Winthrop, off the top of my head I know they have wins over Missouri State, the same ODU team that you cited for the CAA, and I don't care how bad they are, Coastal Carolina is a rivalry and they beat them once, lets see how the game goes on CC's court. Winthrop also lost by less than 10 to Wisconsin and UNC, and while I know it's not a win, it's still pretty damn good. They are undefeated in conference, which is good no matter what conference you're in. I think they have 4 losses in total all to ranked opponents, UNC, Wisco, TAMU, and Maryland. Not sure what their RPI is, but I don't think it's far from VCU's. I know Winthrop's out of conference SOS is better.


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Re: The Official March Madness Thread!!!!!!!! [Re: jewunit]
    #6590115 - 02/20/07 04:39 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

yeah.. i didnt talk shit about Wintrop..i said they are "always pretty decent" i just believe if they dont win the conference (which im 96% sure they will) that they shouldnt and wont get in.. and only losing by 10 doesnt matter, its a matter of wins and loses.

i had no idea that VCU was getting top 25 votes.. i make the weekly threads and i dont think ive ever typed in VCU, i might be wrong though.. i dont like them.. its just hard to deny a team that leads a conference.. and also leads the NCAA in several important stats.

ill agree with you George Mason isnt good this year... but making it to the final 4 is no cake walk. and no fluke.. they beat some quality programs last year. im not even sure if they are above .500 this year.


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Re: The Official March Madness Thread!!!!!!!! [Re: Banez]
    #6590393 - 02/20/07 05:52 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

That was last year, I could care less.
I wasn't saying you were trashing Winthrop, but I think they definitely deserve to at least get a lot of consideration when it comes time if they don't win. I know that they lost those games, but when it comes to lower at-large bids, especially from midmajors such as Winthrop, we all know they take that kind of thing into consideration, as they should. If a team can play potential one and two seeds close on the road, they deserve consideration for the NCAA, since that's the kind of thing the committee thinks about.

I also didn't say VCU has cracked the top 25, but they ALWAYS get some votes (probably from their coach and some other CAA coaches though.)


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Re: The Official March Madness Thread!!!!!!!! [Re: jewunit]
    #6590404 - 02/20/07 05:54 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

yeah.. well at the end of my top 25, i usually include a couple teams getting a lot of votes, i just never remember putting them in.. oh well doesnt really matter

MSU is playing Wisconsin very well in the first half just like we both expected... and Notre Dame is beating DePaul, they really need this win.

EDIT- nevermind that was someone else, leastresistance i think.. over in the rankings thread.


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Re: The Official March Madness Thread!!!!!!!! [Re: Banez]
    #6590413 - 02/20/07 05:56 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I'm gonna be really mad if MSU pulls this upset out, though.


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Re: The Official March Madness Thread!!!!!!!! [Re: jewunit]
    #6590462 - 02/20/07 06:05 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

yeah.. i mean.. in this case i dont really like either team.. so im just hoping for a good game.. although i always like upsets.


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Re: The Official March Madness Thread!!!!!!!! [Re: Banez]
    #6590619 - 02/20/07 06:49 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I don't want to go to the Wisco vs. OSU game and not have it be as meaningful as possible.

Otherwise I would root for MSU.


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Re: The Official March Madness Thread!!!!!!!! [Re: jewunit]
    #6590680 - 02/20/07 07:01 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

atleast the polls dont come out until monday.. so technically it will still be #1 vs. #2

a great win for MSU, and that just punched their ticket to the big dance.. if there was ever any doubt of them getting in.


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Re: The Official March Madness Thread!!!!!!!! [Re: Banez]
    #6590887 - 02/20/07 07:45 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Wow.
How gay.
Tim Hardaway is really pissed right now.


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Re: The Official March Madness Thread!!!!!!!! [Re: jewunit]
    #6594860 - 02/21/07 06:16 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

huh?


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Re: The Official March Madness Thread!!!!!!!! [Re: Banez]
    #6637968 - 03/05/07 02:51 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

So who is going to follow the MADNESS!?


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Re: The Official March Madness Thread!!!!!!!! [Re: TrancedShroom]
    #6638048 - 03/05/07 03:23 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

*raises hand*
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Re: The Official March Madness Thread!!!!!!!! [Re: jewunit]
    #6670016 - 03/14/07 06:55 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Well motherfuckers, it starts tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go HEELS!


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