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Cops/informants @ garden shops
    #6520032 - 02/01/07 02:34 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

This guy was at a garden/hydro shop with some verm, coir, and couldn't make out what else he had. after paying for supplies the clerk asked him "is this for mycology/are you doing mycology?" (i was on the other side of the room looking at cacti and shit) in a kind of shady tone, kind like a cop would ask you if you have anything in the car, and the guy simply replied with a no. he didnt really say anything after that and left the store.

do cops go undercover for stuff like that? what do u guys make of this? nothing?

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Re: Cops/informants @ garden shops [Re: ke1n]
    #6520046 - 02/01/07 02:40 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Most likely just an inquizitive shopkeeper and a SMART customer. :smile:

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Re: Cops/informants @ garden shops [Re: ke1n]
    #6521105 - 02/01/07 07:48 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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ke1n said:
...and the guy simply replied with a "NO, mind your own god damn business bag boy!"




Or at least thats how I might have played it.:smirk:


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Re: Cops/informants @ garden shops [Re: S33D]
    #6521817 - 02/01/07 11:10 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

i hope he payed cash for those items.. or uncle sam will be tracking him down in the near future.


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Re: Cops/informants @ garden shops [Re: ke1n]
    #6522423 - 02/02/07 02:40 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

> do cops go undercover for stuff like that?

Not that I have heard of.  It is much more common for the police to come in and take all the sales records from the store.  This has happened more than once around the country.  Obviously, if you are in a gardening store, then you are growing cannabis, yes?  :rolleyes:

When I was living in the states, I treated garden/hydro shops as if they were being watched by the police.  I would park a long ways away, and walk.  Pay in cash.  Didn't buy multiple different types of items at once.  Sometimes I would buy things that I didn't need, such as seeds or potted plants, along with the more risky stuff, etc.  Getting back to the car, I would do a lot of extra shopping along the way to help ensure that nobody was following me.  I was a very paranoid person at the time.  :wink:


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Re: Cops/informants @ garden shops [Re: Seuss]
    #6522746 - 02/02/07 08:30 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, he menionted the most important thing there.. paying in cash.. because they can/ do pull store records and if you have... heat lamps, soil, fertilizers, punch of starter pots, ect... and they can track that to an address on the credit card or bank account.. then they have got you fucked.


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Re: Cops/informants @ garden shops [Re: Banez]
    #6525351 - 02/03/07 01:17 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Wow! You guys sure are paranoid!

I mean, come on, it's just gardening supplies. Even if you live in the city almost everyone has some houseplants and needs some gardening supplies now and again. The only thing I would ever worry about would be advanced hydroponics systems (like $1,000+) or 1000W grow lights.


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Re: Cops/informants @ garden shops [Re: fastfred]
    #6525855 - 02/03/07 09:16 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

A litte paranoid. Maybe.

But its not just speculation that police have staked out hyrdo shops. They will sit and collect plate numbers, look for known felons, etc.

People have been busted for buying legal fucking hydro stuff. Not sure about lately, but it has happened in the past 5 or so years.

Why chance un do heat.....


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Re: Cops/informants @ garden shops [Re: Schwip]
    #6526275 - 02/03/07 12:13 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, and if your suspected of growing shit, and they run your credit card history and see a bunch of indoor growing supplies, you bet your ass that will get them a search warrant.


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Re: Cops/informants @ garden shops [Re: Banez]
    #6527507 - 02/03/07 07:15 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

A few weeks back while looking for growing supplies, I called the local Lowes and asked if they had any vermiculite in stock. After a few minutes into the call, the guy on the line asked me what I needed it for. Due to my paranoid nature, I quickly stated that I was growing "something" and he didn't question it. As it turned out, there was no vermiculite in stock. Since then, my transactions have been strictly cash-only.


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Re: Cops/informants @ garden shops [Re: Schwip]
    #6528601 - 02/04/07 01:10 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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A litte paranoid. Maybe.

But its not just speculation that police have staked out hyrdo shops. They will sit and collect plate numbers, look for known felons, etc.

People have been busted for buying legal fucking hydro stuff. Not sure about lately, but it has happened in the past 5 or so years.

Why chance un do heat.....




Caution is wise.

Metro town I used to live in.
Did roll bye's with a heat sensor gun hanging out the car window.
Of many suburban houses, that had large shops, barns, etc.
Just looking for 1 that was emitting high heat signatures.
Just looking for those marijuana growers. :rastamon:


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Re: Cops/informants @ garden shops [Re: agar]
    #6539146 - 02/07/07 03:08 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I guess they need more than the heat now to get a search warrent I remember reading that somewhere


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Re: Cops/informants @ garden shops [Re: Dobie]
    #6543220 - 02/08/07 03:05 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I used to make $$ buying stuff from hydro stores for my buddies. If you have a clean friend, send him there with a list, or go with him and point out the things that you want him to buy if you're really that paranoid.

The place my buddies sent me to was a brew/grow shop and i actually saw an officer buying brewing supplies there once. Everything they sell is legal and as long as you don't admit to using it illegally, you have no worries.

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Re: Cops/informants @ garden shops [Re: YuckMan]
    #6592833 - 02/21/07 06:21 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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Did roll bye's with a heat sensor gun hanging out the car window.





^ Which is illegal. However, does give them a reason to make note of said house. And make up some reason to do a trash pull, or w/e.

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Re: Cops/informants @ garden shops [Re: ninfan77]
    #6593007 - 02/21/07 08:17 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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ninfan77 said:
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Did roll bye's with a heat sensor gun hanging out the car window.





^ Which is illegal. However, does give them a reason to make note of said house. And make up some reason to do a trash pull, or w/e.




No joke. Ive had police tell me to my face they know I am guilty of certain crimes, they have all the evidence, but it wasnt obtained properly so I need to watch my ass because im bound to mess up and they will take me down

pretty much those words. Cops will do things the illegal way, and then make some bogus legal excuse like "I smelt pot emitting from the property" , or ya never know when an extra bag of weed is gonna end up in your backseat. Its shady, and I may be paranoid, but its justified because ive seen it happen before

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Re: Cops/informants @ garden shops [Re: dedjam]
    #6595577 - 02/21/07 08:59 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

for what its worth, cops don't need a reason or warrant to search your garbage.  if its in a garbage recepticle, its considered abandoned property, so they are not invading your privacy by searching it.  gets a little tricky depending on where on your property the garbage might be (i.e. they can't search a garbage can in your garage or on your porch but can if left out at the curb for pick-up, and certainly in a dumpster if you live in an apartment complex or somesuch)

maybe a little on the paranoid side by i throw out anything shadey in a different color/type of bag that i do my other trash, and make sure nothing with my name on it ever goes in the same bag :wink:

i dont know if/when the heat law may have changed but in my city just recently as 3 or 4 years ago they purchased an infrared equipped helicopter for that reason alone.  (at least, as far as the local tv news reported it.  wouldn't take it as gospel and certainly possibly of a scare tactic. :smile:)

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Re: Cops/informants @ garden shops [Re: creamcorn]
    #6596463 - 02/22/07 03:48 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

> for what its worth, cops don't need a reason or warrant to search your garbage.

The US Supreme court says, "Society would not accept as reasonable [a] claim to an expectation of privacy in trash left for collection in an area accessible to the public."

I happen to disagree, as do a lot in society, with the supreme court's ruling. I would not accept as reasonable a claim to expectation of privacy in trash at the dump, but while my trash is on my property awaiting pickup, I do expect privacy.

Of course, if the courts gave privacy to trash on the curb, they would be going against all the rulings they have issued where they define the curtilage of a home and what can be searched without a warrant.

The New Hampshire Supreme Court decided in the opposite direction of the US Supreme Court:

"Personal letters, bills, receipts, prescription bottles and similar items that are regularly disposed of in household trash disclose information about the resident that few people would want to be made public. Nor do we believe that people voluntarily expose such information to the public when they leave trash, in sealed bags, out for regular collection."

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