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Re: On-Topic Fat Thread [Re: Asante]
    #6505155 - 01/28/07 02:28 PM (17 years, 3 days ago)

Psilo - 100% correct about skunk and people's stubborn attitudes when someone mocks their personal lifestyles.
When you know you're wrong, you can finally start being right.

Colbadol - You may be right but they have no work ethic and you do. More power to you. In the long run who's gonna live a better life... You! So don't worry about it. Just keep doing what you're doing and it'll pay off. While your taxes, that you probably won't miss, will be helping  them suffer longer and you'll enjoy the fruits of your labor.:thumbup:

HippieChick - If it doesn't bother me then it won't effect me. I can always work harder because my brain isn't flawed.. I don't mind some hard work to get something. If more people realized this then American's wouldn't be fat-asses.

Jumping through all the hoops in our current system sucks yeah...but learn to live with it and it's not soo bad. You can learn to manipulate it if you work with it instead of against it.


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Re: On-Topic Fat Thread [Re: Colbadol]
    #6505180 - 01/28/07 02:38 PM (17 years, 3 days ago)

Its worth it in so many ways, being smart,or appearing that way :hehehe: , by coming up with what seemed like simple solutions to make everyones job easier :lol:) and working hard is what got me a promotion.

Sure I would fuck around sometimes, everyone does, but at the end of the day, I can't be the kind of person I despise.


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Re: On-Topic Fat Thread [Re: Asante]
    #6505185 - 01/28/07 02:41 PM (17 years, 3 days ago)

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What?
OF COURSE obesity effects society. It's our taxes that will pay for their damn disability cause theyre too fat to walk on their own or work.

also, so many hospitals are having to buy all new beds and toilets and change the size of their doorways to 'accomodate' these fat-asses. The world just isnt equiped to handle 400 pounds of laziness.

it's an unecessary and avoidable BURDEN on all of us.




Fortunately there is a final solution for all people who by their quirks burden humanity. You're using the exact same rationale as that Action T4 poster. Is your solution the same?




There's quite a difference here. People can't help that they are a Jew, a Gypsy, or a mental handicap. Many people can help being obese but refuse to take the initiative to rectify the situation.

What do you think is harder to do: lose forty pounds or stop being an ethnic Jew?


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Re: On-Topic Fat Thread [Re: Redstorm]
    #6505231 - 01/28/07 03:00 PM (17 years, 3 days ago)

I think that near the start of that post you meant to say CANT, obviously, so yes I agree 100% with your post.

The truth is, IMO of course..... is that its much easier to gain allot of weight and much harder to lose it. Which makes some people assume that they were meant to be a certain way, or that genetics gave them a bad deal in life.

The truth is(IMO) people trap themselves, in their weight, and their lifestyle choices, and either cant see a way out, or lack the willpower to try.
So they lie to themselves and others.

Exercise, eat well. It might take a long time to see allot of progress, but sitting down and having extra desert and making excuses wont get you anywhere.


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Re: On-Topic Fat Thread [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #6505242 - 01/28/07 03:03 PM (17 years, 3 days ago)

Yeah, I meant "can't". :wink:


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Re: On-Topic Fat Thread [Re: Redstorm]
    #6505309 - 01/28/07 03:27 PM (17 years, 3 days ago)

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There's quite a difference here. People can't help that they are a Jew, a Gypsy, or a mental handicap.




I was referring to Aktion T4, which focussed on the handicapped:

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Action T4 (German: Aktion T4) was a program in Nazi Germany officially between 1939 and 1941, during which the regime of Adolf Hitler systematically killed between 75,000 to 250,000 people with intellectual or physical disabilities.Unofficially performed after 1941 the killing became less systematic.[1]




Obese people, in Colbadol's presentation of things, would be handicapped people in the same sense. Compare:

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OF COURSE obesity effects society. It's our taxes that will pay for their damn disability cause theyre too fat to walk on their own or work.

also, so many hospitals are having to buy all new beds and toilets and change the size of their doorways to 'accomodate' these fat-asses. The world just isnt equiped to handle 400 pounds of laziness.

it's an unecessary and avoidable BURDEN on all of us.




with:

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60,000 Reichsmarks is what this person suffering from hereditary defects costs the community during his lifetime. Fellow German, that is your money, too.




People should strive to take care of their own business, but to call the ill, unfit and handicapped a (costly) burden on society has a VERY eerie precedent. As you can read in the wiki I linked, it was intolerance towards the sick, handicapped and infirm that paved the way to the atrocities which were to follow.

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What do you think is harder to do: lose forty pounds or stop being an ethnic Jew?




What is harder to do? Stop being an ethnic Jew or stop being genetically predisposed to obesity?
The answer is that both have exactly zero chance to change their nature. It is hardwired into your DNA.

It is easier for the average Jew to not appear Jewish than it is for the average obese guy to appear thin, because although 99% of all diets gets the weight off, only 10% of people keeps it off after 3 years, and in fact 30% are more obese three years after a diet where much weight was lost, than before it. That means that if you manage to lose the weight, you are three times more likely to weigh MORE after 3 years than that you have kept it off. For obese people, dieting itself is fattening.
I've got a source for all that but it is in Dutch.


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Re: On-Topic Fat Thread [Re: Asante]
    #6505328 - 01/28/07 03:34 PM (17 years, 3 days ago)

That isn't an accurate application of that statistic. One is as likely to weigh more after three years "if one allows oneself to engage in behavior that will put that weight back on". The fact that only 10% keep the weight off and 30% gain more doesn't set the odds of what one's own result will be - it simply describes the failings of others.


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Re: On-Topic Fat Thread [Re: Asante]
    #6505341 - 01/28/07 03:40 PM (17 years, 3 days ago)

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What is harder to do? Stop being an ethnic Jew or stop being genetically predisposed to obesity?
The answer is that both have exactly zero chance to change their nature. It is hardwired into your DNA.




Nothing is set in stone when it comes to weight, the body can adapt. Some people are predisposed to being heavier, but the idea that its hardwired and they can never get fit is ridiculous.


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Re: On-Topic Fat Thread [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #6505356 - 01/28/07 03:46 PM (17 years, 3 days ago)

We don't make mistakes. :wink:


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Re: On-Topic Fat Thread [Re: Asante]
    #6505362 - 01/28/07 03:49 PM (17 years, 3 days ago)

wiccan, youre trying to line up my opinions on this with your belief that people are BORN to be obese.
If this were the case, how come this is only a modern 'disease'? There is a correalation with obesity and societies average lifestyle.
the fact is that yes, many people are predisposed to a higher body fat percentage, but like said before...they trap THEMSELVES>

frankly, i dont believe that it's a disease at all.
it's a SOURCE of diseases like diabetes and hypertension, etc.



i hope youre just playing devil's advocate, because there is NO way to can defend this rediculously unhealthy lifestyle. Like, some people think that drug use is an unhealthy lifestyle, but there are many arguments against that, many heated opinions/misinformation, etc. With obesity, however, there is no argument.


obese people ARE handicapped. but i never suggested a one-click solution of KILLING them. I said that it is avoidable.
im thinking long term gradual, not hack and slash.


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Re: On-Topic Fat Thread [Re: fireworks_god]
    #6505369 - 01/28/07 03:50 PM (17 years, 3 days ago)

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One is as likely to weigh more after three years "if one allows oneself to engage in behavior that will put that weight back on". The fact that only 10% keep the weight off and 30% gain more doesn't set the odds of what one's own result will be - it simply describes the failings of others.




Fireworks_God, statistics about a population are about a population. If a large group starts something and 90% consistently fails then the chance of failure is 90%.

The hard fact is that 90% of people who engage in that activity within 3 years "allows oneself to engage in behavior that will put that weight back on".

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The fact that only 10% keep the weight off and 30% gain more doesn't set the odds of what one's own result will be - it simply describes the failings of others.




You are being silly.

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The fact that only 1% survives falling off Golden Gate Bridge doesn't set the odds of what one's own result will be - it simply describes the failings of others.




No it doesn't "set the odds" and yet it is a real good indicator that some risk is involved, no?


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Re: On-Topic Fat Thread [Re: Asante]
    #6505377 - 01/28/07 03:55 PM (17 years, 3 days ago)

Sure some people are unable to lose wait b/c of a problem with their body. You won't see me denying that. I just find it hard to believe that anywhere close to a majority of the obese have this genetic defect.


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Re: On-Topic Fat Thread [Re: Asante]
    #6505392 - 01/28/07 04:00 PM (17 years, 3 days ago)

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For obese people, dieting itself is fattening.




what are you saying here? that obese people will get fatter no matter what? oh lets feel sorry for them all, they try sooooo hard. it's just that damn evil fat gene. boo hoo.

the fact is that they just arent working hard enough at it. this isnt entirely their fault. society helps them along by supporting their obesity. hell, theyre the perfect consumers arent they? they'll also get tons of prejudice from the people, which add's to their low self-esteem --> turning to what makes them happy...EATING JUNK!

let's feel sorry for them...maybe sympathy will make them happier.



FUCK THAT. These people need a kick in the arse. They need motivation.


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Re: On-Topic Fat Thread [Re: Colbadol]
    #6505408 - 01/28/07 04:10 PM (17 years, 3 days ago)

what i'm trying to say is that these people get discouraged because they spend their entire lives getting fat, and they expect to lose it in 1 month with as little effort as possible.
and there's a serious market for this. Businesses supply them with misinformation, bad diets, and shortcuts that dont work...all at a nice price.

if you look at a failed diet or a failed workout plan, and really disect it you WILL find a reason as to why it didnt work.
eating one meal a day? NO WONDER your metabolism is soo low. Doing abs with your new expensive machine but not getting a flatter stomache? But it's supposed to work, isnt it?

LIES> theyve all been LIED to.
dont support this.

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Re: On-Topic Fat Thread [Re: Colbadol]
    #6505411 - 01/28/07 04:13 PM (17 years, 3 days ago)

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people are BORN to be obese.





Some people are, yes. As a species we have seen much famine and this has predisposed much of humanity to obesity, and of those some far more than others through a combination of nature and nurture.

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If this were the case, how come this is only a modern 'disease'?




It's not.
Except most people never could afford or obtain fattening foods and a low-activity lifestyle to go with that. If you look at whatever culture, look at their rich people and you see a lot of them are very obese. The western problem is that we are so rich that almost everybody is rich to the standards our ancestors lived by.

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the fact is that yes, many people are predisposed to a higher body fat percentage, but like said before...they trap THEMSELVES




The mouse traps himself by eating the cheese in the trap, and yet he is just following his nature. It is part of human nature to overeat and get redy for the next famine. With no famine, people get obese.

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i hope youre just playing devil's advocate, because there is NO way to can defend this rediculously unhealthy lifestyle.




I'm not defending it! I am however saying that society should accept the fact that obesity is a real problem. The World Health Organisation in fact considers it one of the worlds biggest problems. People should become more tolerant and accepting of differences, especially if they cause as much sorrow and suffering as obesity does.

But actually if I wanted to I very well can defend the "obese lifestyle". We are a DRUG COMMUNITY. We are accepting of people who stick 100 dollar bills up their nose and dirty needles up their arm. We have the right to live and die as we choose if the burden of harm falls onto ourselves. People may drug themselves to death, race themselves to death in speedboats and fast cars, and if they want to they can eat themselves to death.

But most obese people do not want that "lifestyle", they are stuck in it, so acknowledging the realness of their problem instead of blaming them and pointing fingers and calling them a "burden to society" would be the high road.

I am confident that if you change the food/exercise culture of the nation, and find a medicine that can undo the metabolic damage done by years of obesity, that few people will be "stuck" with obesity problems.


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Re: On-Topic Fat Thread [Re: Asante]
    #6505424 - 01/28/07 04:18 PM (17 years, 3 days ago)

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Fireworks_God, statistics about a population are about a population. If a large group starts something and 90% consistently fails then the chance of failure is 90%.




Incorrect. The chance of failure are determined by the specific variables in the situation of the individual. If I trip and fall at work, and 25% of associates trip at work, that does not mean that I have a 25% chance of tripping and falling at work. That chance is determined by factors, such as the surface that I'm walking on and what is also on it, the stability I am maintaining, etc.

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The hard fact is that 90% of people who engage in that activity within 3 years "allows oneself to engage in behavior that will put that weight back on".




That does not mean that one is facing a 90% chance of failure. :rolleyes:

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You are being silly.




Afraid not. One determines one's results through one's actions, not the percentage rate of how others have acted. :lol:

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No it doesn't "set the odds" and yet it is a real good indicator that some risk is involved, no?




Not really. Taking the viewpoint that, as 90% of people gain the weight they lose on a diet within a few years, one has very slim odds (:smirk:) of becoming a healthier person, is a detriment to one's ability to lose weight and become more healthy.

Ultimately, it sounds like justification of failure to act, to me. :shrug:


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Re: On-Topic Fat Thread [Re: Asante]
    #6505438 - 01/28/07 04:25 PM (17 years, 3 days ago)

fat peole like to cry and blame things on metabolism and such. when it comes down to it though, every fat person ive met eats like shit and doesnt excersise. they will all throw the excuse at you "i tried but im just fat" which means they tried working out for like a week and didnt see results. or they refuse to alter their eating. fat people are the worst kind of gluttons. they stuff their face full of garbage and complain about fatness. most of them eat fast food like its their job. cakes, cookies, doritos, ice cream, they cant help themselves. some of them eat healthy in front of people then binge at home. i bet $10000000 i could take any fat person and get them to lose weight. just look at any of those fat person reallity shows. when forced to workout and not stuff their faces with garbage they all do lose weight. its a fucking fact. most of them plump righ tback up again after the show. fat people have no self control. they eat selfishly stuffing their fat faces. gross


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    #6505439 - 01/28/07 04:25 PM (17 years, 3 days ago)

By saying that it's MOSTLY genetic is NOT facing the real problem.
In fact, this is more modern thinking which is making people 'accept' their problem. Accepting a problem does NOT equal facing a problem.

drugs, sports, racing around...these are all life experiences. You can do one, move on to the other and have a very fulfilling life.
eating yourself to death is NOT living. It prevents you from doing anything else but cramming more food into your face and feeling sorry for yourself.

youre right, most obese people dont want to be like that, and they are stuck in it. But like explained before...they trap themselves.


Society already KNOWS that this is a real problem. By saying that you 'accept' your obesity as being beyond your own control (which youve equated to taking the moral high ground) will only make things worse.

it's not the moral highground. it's a weakness.


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Re: On-Topic Fat Thread [Re: Redstorm]
    #6505451 - 01/28/07 04:29 PM (17 years, 3 days ago)

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what are you saying here? that obese people will get fatter no matter what?




Try to imagine the horror of that being true for some people. That just like with Arthritis you slowly lose more and more functionality, medicines (diets) provide temporary relief but slowly but surely you are sliding off to partial or full disability.

Because that's the reality that many obese people face.
Take a group of obese people. Flashforward to 2017, and most are worse off. Back to 2007 again. All this talk of hope and self-empowerment.
That happened to the obese of 1997, and they are worse off in our 2007. That happened to the obese of 1987, most of whom who were worse off in 1997. None of the positive thinking blabla worked for them. America is fatter than ever.

Ten years later and you almost invariably are worse off. Thats the reality of chronic illness, including obesity. Once you have been heavy enough for long enough, chances are that ten years from now you'll be worse off.

Many people flat out dislike obese people. That is a cultural deformity (like segregarion was) and that has to be overcome too.

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Sure some people are unable to lose wait b/c of a problem with their body. You won't see me denying that. I just find it hard to believe that anywhere close to a majority of the obese have this genetic defect.





Many people in the USA who are obese do not have strong genetic tendency towards obesity as far as we know. But genetics isn't as much the issue as is understanding that if you are fat enough for long enough, you will forever tend to put on weight thereafter. It is the obesity itself that breaks your metabolism, regardless of what brought it on. If you stuff your kid to be fat between ages 6-12, chances are that he'll be fat for life, regardless of genetics.


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    #6505452 - 01/28/07 04:29 PM (17 years, 3 days ago)

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Some people are, yes. As a species we have seen much famine and this has predisposed much of humanity to obesity, and of those some far more than others through a combination of nature and nurture.




Substantiation? We do not instinctually gorge ourselves. :what:

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The mouse traps himself by eating the cheese in the trap, and yet he is just following his nature. It is part of human nature to overeat and get redy for the next famine. With no famine, people get obese.




It is only a part of human nature due to the manner in which you are choosing to act in this moment. Human nature is our actions, right now. We are not mouses, as we can see the trap for what it is. We should act accordingly.

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I'm not defending it! I am however saying that society should accept the fact that obesity is a real problem. The World Health Organisation in fact considers it one of the worlds biggest problems. People should become more tolerant and accepting of differences, especially if they cause as much sorrow and suffering as obesity does.




Tolerance is superb, and yet we don't stop at identifying a problem - we effectively solve it. I don't think anyone really thinks that obesity is not a problem. The question is what are we doing about it, and the people who should be asking this question are primarily those who are obese. What am I going to do about it, what am I doing about it?

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But actually if I wanted to I very well can defend the "obese lifestyle". We are a DRUG COMMUNITY. We are accepting of people who stick 100 dollar bills up their nose and dirty needles up their arm.




I thought we were a community that encourages informative and safe drug usage, not acceptance of every moron who gives it a bad name. Reading the posts of users who criticize the people who show up in the articles in the news forum for their stupid arrests would seem to evidence this. Defending an unhealthy choice simply because one can make that choice doesn't make a lot of choice. :confused:

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We have the right to live and die as we choose if the burden of harm falls onto ourselves. People may drug themselves to death, race themselves to death in speedboats and fast cars, and if they want to they can eat themselves to death.




True. Great. Why should they? Because they can?

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I am confident that if you change the food/exercise culture of the nation, and find a medicine that can undo the metabolic damage done by years of obesity, that few people will be "stuck" with obesity problems.




How does one change the food/exercise culture of a nation? By choices on the individual level. Ultimately, all I am hearing is that "One's body blackmails oneself into eating too much, human beings are naturally this way, once one is this way it is extremely difficult to change, and that if only the entire world changed then one would get better". :nonono:


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