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ID check/request I just like to be sure
    #6491631 - 01/24/07 02:47 AM (17 years, 26 days ago)

This is not exactly for edibles or actives. I just like to have my pictures in a properly labeled archive. Such as the below.


My guess is Cystoderma fallax. It is growing no more then 2" next to a Lactarius Rubrilacteus (Bleeding Milkcap) under a pine tree.
>edit: The Lactarius is the big mushroom on the right in this pic.

Sorry this is all i got. I didn't pick it, i didn't print it, all i got is this pic, and a good guess. Once again sorry for the lack of info. However i do believe that with a veil like that it seems pretty unique.






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Re: ID check/request I just like to be sure [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6492064 - 01/24/07 09:56 AM (17 years, 26 days ago)

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pscyanescens said:
This is not exactly for edibles or actives. I just like to have my pictures in a properly labeled archive. Such as the below.


My guess is Cystoderma fallax. It is growing no more then 2" next to a Lactarius Rubrilacteus (Bleeding Milkcap) under a pine tree.

Sorry this is all i got. I didn't pick it, i didn't print it, all i got is this pic, and a good guess. Once again sorry for the lack of info. However i do believe that with a veil like that it seems pretty unique.




Definitely not Cystoderma fallax. The mushrooms pictured above does not have any granular type scales I would expect to see. The cap has some coloured rings near the margin, and if you look closely, you can see green bruising.
I KNOW I have seen and identified this mushroom before, but I can't come up with the name at the moment. I'll letcha know ass soon as I remember, or maybe another member will jump in.
Lastly, look at the cap on the left mushroom- you'll notice a light brown/tan spore deposit covering the cap. C. fallax has a white spore deposit.


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Re: ID check/request I just like to be sure [Re: CureCat]
    #6492075 - 01/24/07 10:02 AM (17 years, 26 days ago)

You know.... it reminds me of a Lactarius, but the veil is throwing me for a loop.


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Re: ID check/request I just like to be sure [Re: CureCat]
    #6492690 - 01/24/07 01:34 PM (17 years, 26 days ago)



Sorry i forgot to mention that the Lactarius Rubrilicatus is in this picture and it is the big mushroom on the right. The three on the left are the suspected Cystoderma fallax.

Lactaruis has the rings on the cap and stains green.


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Re: ID check/request I just like to be sure [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6493574 - 01/24/07 06:27 PM (17 years, 26 days ago)

Ooooh! Then i assume the yellow/brown spores on top of the left specimen are from the Lactarius??


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Re: ID check/request I just like to be sure [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6493806 - 01/24/07 07:27 PM (17 years, 26 days ago)

I think I could go with Cystoderma, and C. fallax is a reasonable guess. CureCat, you're right that the granular bits are missing from the cap surface, but they can wash off and that photo seems to show that the area is pretty wet. The habitat is correct (I've found that species several times), and the granular bits are present on the stalk below the ring (which is the proper sheathing ring). Another possibility is C. amianthinum, although the rings on these seem prominent enough that I incline toward C. fallax.

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Re: ID check/request I just like to be sure [Re: ToxicMan]
    #6494655 - 01/25/07 12:25 AM (17 years, 25 days ago)

ToxicMan: Thank you! I don't quite see where the spore deposit was. The cap and stem seemed to look the same color and feel the same way as the rest of the mushroom, except for where the the "sheathing ring" broke and the gills were definitely a different color then the rest of the mushroom.

I was intrigued because it looks like a universal veil that only breaks at the the ring where the veil separates. Is that even a veil?


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Re: ID check/request I just like to be sure [Re: ToxicMan]
    #6495106 - 01/25/07 06:33 AM (17 years, 25 days ago)

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CureCat, you're right that the granular bits are missing from the cap surface, but they can wash off and that photo seems to show that the area is pretty wet.



I was originally confused, since the Lactarius was mixed in. Once I focused more carefully on the smaller specimens, i was able to notice the granules.... However, the only question remaining in my mind, is whether the spore deposits on the supposed C. fallax are from the Lactarius or not.


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Re: ID check/request I just like to be sure [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6496045 - 01/25/07 02:09 PM (17 years, 25 days ago)

it's a veil if it was covering the gills keeping the spores from depositing


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Re: ID check/request I just like to be sure [Re: burtonRebel]
    #6498301 - 01/26/07 04:37 AM (17 years, 24 days ago)

well i guess that is a veil, would you call it a universal veil. It does cover the whole mushroom except for the gills and the part on the stem where it separates.

If this is a veil, and i don't doubt it is, what would you classify it as?


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Re: ID check/request I just like to be sure [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6498669 - 01/26/07 09:53 AM (17 years, 24 days ago)

It's a partial veil. The surface texture of the mushroom, except the stem above the veil, has the same texture so it can be confusing. If you look at the other Cystoderma species it's more obvious. Another genus that shows a similar feature is Phaeolepiota.

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Re: ID check/request I just like to be sure [Re: ToxicMan]
    #6499905 - 01/26/07 04:41 PM (17 years, 24 days ago)

Thaks Toximan! i will do more research with my books.


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