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Toddlers on Airplanes
    #6493576 - 01/24/07 06:27 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

IMO, I think that once you have a child, you should be unable to travel by airplane for atleast 3 years, unless you are leaving your child behind.
Toddlers do not belong on airplanes, you are an evil, souless person if you bring a toddler on an airplane on purpose. It is about as responsible as shitting all over every porcelain surface in a bathroom, so as to ruin a somewhat copascetic group of random strangers acting along parameters of decency with your selfish and demonic urges.

I would prefer a jihad enthused terrorist with a hand grenade over a toddler with 30,000 feet of pressure in its ears.


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #6493581 - 01/24/07 06:29 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I think you better get over the fact that toddlers exist

they're on buses and other forms of transportation, too. amazing


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #6493598 - 01/24/07 06:35 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I agree they suck when their parents suck, but good parenting can usually handle temper tantrums and crap like that. Either way, family across the country may want to see the toddler, or the family is going on vacation or something so obiously the kids have to go too. Sometimes you just get unlucky with having screaming little bastards on the plane.


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #6493602 - 01/24/07 06:37 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

How am I suppose to smuggle my hash if I can't put it in my toddler's diaper?

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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: Gr8fulJ420]
    #6493609 - 01/24/07 06:40 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

man that's a bad idea.


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: Gr8fulJ420]
    #6493610 - 01/24/07 06:40 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/10823581/detail.html

Julie and Gerry Kulesza and daughter Elly were removed from the flight when the girl refused to take her seat before takeoff, airline officials said Tuesday. But her parents said they just needed a little more time to calm her down.


FUCK TODDLERS! they are all DEMONS!


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: Liquid_Dimension]
    #6493612 - 01/24/07 06:41 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

demons have to go places too, you know.


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: lukeboots]
    #6493617 - 01/24/07 06:42 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

fuck that...they have bat wings.


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: Liquid_Dimension]
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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: lukeboots]
    #6493638 - 01/24/07 06:47 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Those shoes are GANGSTA.


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: Liquid_Dimension]
    #6493648 - 01/24/07 06:48 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Satan himself gave that demon his shoes. GANGSTA as FUCK


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: cookeman]
    #6493662 - 01/24/07 06:52 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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I agree they suck when their parents suck, but good parenting can usually handle temper tantrums and crap like that. Either way, family across the country may want to see the toddler, or the family is going on vacation or something so obiously the kids have to go too. Sometimes you just get unlucky with having screaming little bastards on the plane.




I agree with you only you say they scream on planes try having one puke on you. That sucks i mean i almost puked it was nasty but oh well. I hate toddlers on fucking any form of transportation. They should be in the car with there family not with STRANGERS pissing them off


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: lukeboots]
    #6493663 - 01/24/07 06:52 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Damn,next thing you know he comes with his own brand of fashion!


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #6493702 - 01/24/07 07:01 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Get these motherfuckin' kids off my motherfuckin' plane!


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: Konnrade]
    #6493747 - 01/24/07 07:10 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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Get these motherfuckin' kids off my motherfuckin' plane!




:lol: and I hope they BURN in helllll!


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: lukeboots]
    #6493860 - 01/24/07 07:42 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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I think you better get over the fact that toddlers exist

they're on buses and other forms of transportation, too. amazing




then they should be able to get over the fact that I am going to fart in my hand and release it in front of their face.

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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #6493896 - 01/24/07 07:55 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I would have give that kid, something to cry about.


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: Brainiac]
    #6493975 - 01/24/07 08:22 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

what if we made sound proof bubble dome airplane child seats? it would solve everyones problems. Maybe we could even poke tiny holes in it for oxygen.

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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #6493979 - 01/24/07 08:23 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I recently took a three hour flight where every time I'd start to drift off, the toddler behind me would give my seat a kick or start crying to ensure I'm alert in case of emergency. I decided it's not the kid who's evil, it's the parents. Everything I'm envisioning doing to that kid in my mind, they need to actually be doing. Except they love their little darling, so why shouldn't everyone else?

The worst part is, these days you can't even get an ice pick onto the plane to gouge their eyes with. I need to start traveling by private dirigible.

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    #6494015 - 01/24/07 08:38 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: pB0t]
    #6494160 - 01/24/07 09:20 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

What would you would rather have... a 350+ LB person with the seat divider up because they can't fit otherwise or a toddler?

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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: Brainiac]
    #6494178 - 01/24/07 09:25 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I seen them interviewed this morning, that girl couldn't hold still for 15 seconds, if I had squirmed that much as a child my parents would have kicked my ass...


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: rawtoxic]
    #6494179 - 01/24/07 09:25 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Ive had the sweaty 300+ guy next to me on a 4 hour flight recently, not fun. although im sure its not fun for them either.


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: rawtoxic]
    #6494195 - 01/24/07 09:30 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Hey, don't be so damn general in your statement. Anything on an airplane can be fucking annoying. My son has flown a number of times and has never bugged out. In fact, when he sees an airplane, he's so damn excited that there's no way he's going to scream and cry. I can't wait until you all have kids, your views on this shit will change so much. In my own opinion, crappy parents=crappy kids. Some kids will not be excited about what's going on, but you just have to know how to properly change the subject and make them forget about what's bugging them. I can't wait for your kids first haircut, trip to the doctor for shots, dressing them in winter clothes. Most of you are in for such a rude awakening when you have kids.


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: trippindad82]
    #6494659 - 01/25/07 12:26 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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Hey, don't be so damn general in your statement. Anything on an airplane can be fucking annoying. My son has flown a number of times and has never bugged out. In fact, when he sees an airplane, he's so damn excited that there's no way he's going to scream and cry. I can't wait until you all have kids, your views on this shit will change so much. In my own opinion, crappy parents=crappy kids. Some kids will not be excited about what's going on, but you just have to know how to properly change the subject and make them forget about what's bugging them. I can't wait for your kids first haircut, trip to the doctor for shots, dressing them in winter clothes. Most of you are in for such a rude awakening when you have kids.





oh jeez, I knew this thread would produce the self-righteous breeder argument.
Wow, some sucrose and DNA emptied into a uterus and you gave a lump of cells a name.... and suddenly you feel you have the right to force the miserable part of producing progeny onto everyone and anyone.
you had a kid, it is your problem/solution, dont act like you passed some rite of passage that makes you superior. Kids suck on airplanes, granted I have seen one or two out of 100 that are well behaved, just because you have some bias and empathy towards that fact doesn't justify making everyone around you miserable.

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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #6495405 - 01/25/07 09:52 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Dude, pwnt.

You get five for that post, my friend.


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #6495616 - 01/25/07 11:43 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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oh jeez, I knew this thread would produce the self-righteous breeder argument.
Wow, some sucrose and DNA emptied into a uterus and you gave a lump of cells a name.... and suddenly you feel you have the right to force the miserable part of producing progeny onto everyone and anyone.
you had a kid, it is your problem/solution, dont act like you passed some rite of passage that makes you superior. Kids suck on airplanes, granted I have seen one or two out of 100 that are well behaved, just because you have some bias and empathy towards that fact doesn't justify making everyone around you miserable.




I have encountered 10 drunken asshole adults on planes for every one annoying toddler.


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #6495622 - 01/25/07 11:48 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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Hey, don't be so damn general in your statement. Anything on an airplane can be fucking annoying. My son has flown a number of times and has never bugged out. In fact, when he sees an airplane, he's so damn excited that there's no way he's going to scream and cry. I can't wait until you all have kids, your views on this shit will change so much. In my own opinion, crappy parents=crappy kids. Some kids will not be excited about what's going on, but you just have to know how to properly change the subject and make them forget about what's bugging them. I can't wait for your kids first haircut, trip to the doctor for shots, dressing them in winter clothes. Most of you are in for such a rude awakening when you have kids.





oh jeez, I knew this thread would produce the self-righteous breeder argument.
Wow, some sucrose and DNA emptied into a uterus and you gave a lump of cells a name.... and suddenly you feel you have the right to force the miserable part of producing progeny onto everyone and anyone.
you had a kid, it is your problem/solution, dont act like you passed some rite of passage that makes you superior. Kids suck on airplanes, granted I have seen one or two out of 100 that are well behaved, just because you have some bias and empathy towards that fact doesn't justify making everyone around you miserable.





Before you step up my ass here, let me make my point again. HAVE YOURSELF A KID, THEN COME BACK AND TELL ME HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS POST. UNTIL THEN, YOU ARE AN IGNORANT ASS FOR MAKING THAT STATEMENT.


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: trippindad82]
    #6496264 - 01/25/07 03:33 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

no need to flame.

You are just making my point here. I dont need to have a kid to know how miserable they are on planes. I dont need to have a kid to know what they are like.

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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: Konnrade]
    #6496275 - 01/25/07 03:37 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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Get these motherfuckin' kids off my motherfuckin' plane!




:hehehe:  that is a great idea :thumbup:


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #6496295 - 01/25/07 03:47 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Not all kids are miserable and annoying on airplanes.  As has been mentioned, it has a lot to do with proper preparation, and parenting.  I don't think you, or anyone else for that matter has the right to say at what age kids should be "allowed" on planes - but I also think that if a child is being unruly and obnoxious prior to take off, as happened in a recent case with AirTran, they should be removed from the plane, rather than make everyone else miserable.  I think to an extent you DO need to have a kid to empathize somewhat with the situation.  If you had a child, and had relatives across the country, or in another country who you wanted to see your child, wouldn't you want to take them to meet their family?  There are some cases that family cannot come to you, whether it be illness or whatever.  I agree completely that a crying, obnoxious child on an airplane is a fucking nightmare to deal with, believe me I've dealt with my share of them - but more often than not it seems to me that the parents aren't doing what they should be doing to diffuse the situation and calm their kid down.  You seem to be under the negative impression that ALL children are miserable and awful to be around, and this simply isn't the case.  Have you ever wondered WHY kids freak out on planes so much?  Kids don't know how to pop their ears, so they're in actual pain a lot of the time.  Parents are supposed to time it right and feed their kid a bottle or something during takeoff/landing to help relieve the inner ear pressure, but often times they don't do it, causing a ton of problems for the baby.  I watch a 1 yr old girl for a living, and she has flown before without issue with her family, because they knew how to handle her during the flight.  I think you're being a bit harsh about something that you really have no control over.  No airline it going to ban children from flying, and it would be ridiculous to do so.  They should instead train parents on how to deal with children on airplanes better, or provide more distractions for the kids.  JetBlue has TV, radio, etc.  Most kids are perfectly happy while distracted by this.  :thumbup:


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: Liz]
    #6496343 - 01/25/07 03:57 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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Not all kids are miserable and annoying on airplanes. As has been mentioned, it has a lot to do with proper preparation, and parenting.




my kids are pretty well behaved around others and in unusual places, except that monster I call my daughter, she's pure evil!

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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6496386 - 01/25/07 04:05 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry, I didn't mean to come off flaming you. But you cannot have a rounded opinion on something until you have experienced the other side. If you can't deal with a kid screaming for four hours, imagine trying to drive cross country for a few days with the same said miserable child.

I'm glad that others here agree with the point that I was trying to make. It's not all kids that are like this, there is a way to fix it, and you are not the authority to decide who can or cannot go on an airplane. And like it was said earlier, I have dealt with far more drunk asshole adults on airplanes than I have with a screaming kid. In fact, I can't even remember one screaming baby on a flight (for more than a few minutes...which is what babies do anyway), but I can remember plenty of times I have dealt with other annoyances on an airplane (such as some asshole with a laptop on the aisle seat who kept bitching when I had to get up and go to the bathroom. No one told him to get his laptop out. Also, I offered to switch seats with him so that he couldn't be bothered anymore, as to which he just turned it down.)


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6496509 - 01/25/07 04:43 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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Not all kids are miserable and annoying on airplanes. As has been mentioned, it has a lot to do with proper preparation, and parenting.




my kids are pretty well behaved around others and in unusual places, except that monster I call my daughter, she's pure evil!





How many kids do you have? And how old? (Just curious)


It's odd, the little girl that I watch is a pure monster sometimes when it comes to her parents. She'll swing at them, pull her Mom's hair, scream and throw tantrums...all because she's their first kid and they don't know how to say no to her. She was fine when she flew with them though, because they fed her a bottle and basically kept her asleep the whole flight. With me though, I don't let her get her way all the time, and she actually knows better than to try to pull her crap! She knows now not to swing at me, or throw tantrums, because I don't give in to her like they do. Discipline, even at a young age, is key.


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: trippindad82]
    #6499917 - 01/26/07 04:48 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I could understand your position that i would need to have a child to have a rounded opinion on changing diapers or some domestic crap like that..... but it isnt needed in my statement/opinion that screaming and crying toddlers on airplanes are miserable.

I really dont see the difference between someone having a toddler throwing a tantrum and me bringing a boombox on the plane, loudly playing a recording of a child having a tantrum.
Im not neccessarily blaming the kid, I agree that it is the parents fault.... I just dont get why it is excusable to make people miserable on an airplane because they didnt get an abortion.

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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #6499951 - 01/26/07 05:05 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe instead of looking at the kids with such resentment, you should try to remember that at one point you were in fact a snotty nosed baby, who cried at inopportune times. I bet you're glad your parents didn't opt to abort YOU, to avoid annoying other people, right?


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: Liz]
    #6499967 - 01/26/07 05:10 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I dont know if you're familiar with the story that I assume prompted this thread.

A family of three were removed from an AirTran flight because their child refused to get into his seat. He was hiding underneat the seat of the plane, kicking and hitting his parents and the stewardess' who tried to get him to calm down. The airline gave the parents almost 30 minutes to get the kid under control, but eventually, you have to take off. How much are you willing to inconvienence the other people on board the airplane?

And the parents are all up in arms saying they'll never fly on AirTran again. When obviously I think any rational person would say its their fault for not being able to control their thoroughly rotten little spawn.


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #6499975 - 01/26/07 05:14 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

The whole family should have been euthanized on the tarmac.


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #6499977 - 01/26/07 05:15 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I am familiar with it. I mentioned the very same story in my 1st post in this thread. I think the flight crew was 100% right to remove that kid and the family from the plane. If you're going to bring a kid on a plane, be able to control it, or don't bring it period. I mean, crying is one thing, but kicking and throwing a fit, and delaying a flight by 30 minutes, that's just ridiculous and a testament to their lack of parenting skills.


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #6499984 - 01/26/07 05:17 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Airtran even refunded their tickets, and offered them round trip tickets to anywhere in the world, and they're still taking the "pissed off violated family stance". That's crap. They should have been able to calm their kid down, in MUCH less than 30 minutes, and they should understand why they were removed, and be grateful they got their money back at all. AND they were offered a free trip on top of it, and they're still being douches about it? They're just mad because their bad parenting was called to attention in front of a lot of people.


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: Liz]
    #6500016 - 01/26/07 05:28 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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Airtran even refunded their tickets, and offered them round trip tickets to anywhere in the world, and they're still taking the "pissed off violated family stance". That's crap. They should have been able to calm their kid down, in MUCH less than 30 minutes, and they should understand why they were removed, and be grateful they got their money back at all. AND they were offered a free trip on top of it, and they're still being douches about it? They're just mad because their bad parenting was called to attention in front of a lot of people.





You've got to be fucking kidding me.

These people belong at the bottom of a ditch somewhere, shot in the guts and buried alive.


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And people wonder how I can have such a dim view of humanity.


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: Liz]
    #6500060 - 01/26/07 05:57 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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Maybe instead of looking at the kids with such resentment, you should try to remember that at one point you were in fact a snotty nosed baby, who cried at inopportune times. I bet you're glad your parents didn't opt to abort YOU, to avoid annoying other people, right?




im sure it sounds like resentment, but I am just laying it down in bare terms. I probably was an obnoxious, snot nosed brat at times, but my parents had the decency not to take me on a plane with them.

"Sorry folks, mee-maw and paw-paw just have to see little johnny, and since we procreated, that makes it ok to make your life miserable for the duration of this flight".

It isnt like I am standing around the maternity ward saying "make these babies stop crying!".

I would pay an extra fee for the 5 or so seats that would be taken up by a sound barrier in the back where people with toddlers could be seated. Is that really such a ridiculous idea?

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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #6500071 - 01/26/07 06:02 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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I have encountered 10 drunken asshole adults on planes for every one annoying toddler.




And people wearing suffocating amounts of perfume and cologne, people who don't believe in showering with soap, people so large they spill over into your seat, people who fall asleep and start leaning all over you, people sneezing and coughing their nasty cold germs all over you, people so terrified of flying they talk your ear off with nervous chatter when you just wanted to get some sleep.

I fly more then my fair share and have had flights made very unpleasant because of the above, but only once, was there one girl screaming bloody murder before take off for about 12 minutes. The parents finally got her calm and she was quiet the rest of the trip.

All that on top of having to get there 2 hours before the flight, then wait in the check in and security lines, having to virtually strip when you go through them these days, not being able to take most toiletries with you in a carry on anymore, and then having to wait anouther hour at baggage claim hoping your stuff made it through, flying commercial itself ....just....... sucks.

I want my own private jet dammit! :crankey:

If anyone wants to bitch/vent about screaming babies and toddlers and bad parents, bitch about the ones that let their kids do it in places where they can take them outside and don't. A polite and considerate parent can't take a fussy baby outside of the plane at 2,000 feet. They can in restaurants, waiting rooms, stores, ect and some just don't. Those are the ones that deserve the clueless parent award.

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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #6500088 - 01/26/07 06:08 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

You see, i can tell a drunken asshole to go fuck himself. I can handle that situation myself. I can handle fat people and chatty people next to me, because I can control the armrest, or tell the person to shut the fuck up.
I however cannot remedy a screaming baby.

this is the only problem I have with flying coach, everything else I can control with my unflinching ability to be a sadistic asshole.

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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #6500164 - 01/26/07 06:33 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think a "no baby" section on a plane is such a bad idea.  I think your attitude towards parents of crying babies though, is unreasonable.  People should be able to control their kids outbursts, I completely agree, but with a YOUNG baby....they cry.  There is no way around that.  I mean, parents can take steps to try to calm them down, but when it comes down to it, they can only do so much while trapped in an airplane.  For a second, put yourself in their shoes - the majority of these parents with screaming children are probably upset, stressed, embarrassed, and feel pretty helpless.  As annoyed as you are with their crying kid, do you think they wouldn't make them STOP crying, if they could?  They have every right to bring their kid to see relatives, or to Disney World, or on vacation, or whatever.  The parents aren't bringing them on the plane to annoy you.  They don't say "Hey, psilocyberin is on this flight, let's bring all of the screaming babies on THIS one!"  Crying babies are just a fact of life.  Wear headphones, or earplugs, and deal with it :shrug:


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #6500283 - 01/26/07 07:36 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

psilo :lol:

Like Liz said, you can use head phones to shut out the screamers. What do you do when your on a full flight next to someone wearing ten gallons of the most noxious perfume on the planet that gives you a pounding headache? Or about the dude who kicks his shoes off under your seat and his feet just reak to all hell? :nonono: (I really want my own jet. :hehehe:)

It's understandable why that family got kicked off of the plane. It wasn't because the girl was being loud, it was because she was refusing to sit in her seat. Federal Regulations require that everyone be in seats with saftey belts tightened before take off. It all started because some plane had to do a quick stop during a take off, and some baby went flying into the bulkhead and smashed its head and died. Of course, the people sued saying that the airline should've required them to have their baby in a safety seat before take off.

I was on a flight to Denver once and this flight attendent asked the guy next to me to put a bag he had down by his feet in the over head bin. He told her that they were all full of peoples snow crap. She asked him again. He told her they were all full. She said, "Sir, I am going to have to ask you to leave this airplane now." He said , "No. Why?" She walked off and the Captain came back and told him he had to leave because he was giving the flight attendant a hard time. :what:

Having a stubborn temper tantruming kid isn't the only thing that can get your ass booted. :lol:

Seriously Psilo, on a full flight, how would you handle "stinky perfume giving you a pounding headache" lady?

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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #6500314 - 01/26/07 07:47 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

threads like this are starting to make me hate the 18-26 age group

'the world just popped into existence when i came of age' syndrome

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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: wazza]
    #6500374 - 01/26/07 08:01 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I'm 24, and I don't have that syndrome :shrug:


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #6500375 - 01/26/07 08:01 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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And the parents are all up in arms saying they'll never fly on AirTran again. When obviously I think any rational person would say its their fault for not being able to control their thoroughly rotten little spawn.



The bitch mom was on CNN or Fox News earlier today babbling about how she went public because she wants everyone to know what happened and that it is wrong. I say children shouldn't be allowed in public until the age of 12 unless they are on leashes and equipped with gimp masks. I find it completely unacceptable to allow your child in public to run around screaming and grabbing everything.

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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: Liz]
    #6500399 - 01/26/07 08:07 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

:lol:
i'll reserve some love for some of them just for you then i swear

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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: wazza]
    #6500453 - 01/26/07 08:20 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I think it's absolutely ridiculous that people are saying that toddlers shouldn't be allowed to ride on planes!! You should all be ashamed of yourselves! There is a solution to every problem, and in this problem, the solution is NOT good parenting. That is over and above the average person's capabilities. The real solution is quicker and simpler than that. It's called DUCT TAPE, people. Duct tape.

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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: Apis]
    #6500593 - 01/26/07 09:13 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

:lol:

i love duct tape too

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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: rawtoxic]
    #6500738 - 01/26/07 09:45 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Having had a very large man sitting next to me earlier this week at a basketball game..a man who filled his seat and half of mine..I'd go with the baby. The baby will probably get bored and fall asleep at some point. Certainly when its mother goes to the bathroom and I slip some valium into its milk bottle..

Baby parachute anyone?


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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: zorbman]
    #6500805 - 01/26/07 10:07 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

little blessings in disguise they are:grin:

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Re: Toddlers on Airplanes [Re: wazza]
    #6500885 - 01/26/07 10:46 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Liz and gettinjiggywithit, I agree with everything you guys said. Had this post been about the parents who bring their babies to a movie, then I would have backed this bitch session 100%. However, those people got treated correctly for the behavior of their child. If you can't chill your kid out in a lot less than 30 minutes, you shouldn't be a parent. However, the poor parenting skills of those two idiots shouldn't punish the rest of civilized society.

And for those of you who can't stand screaming babies. Especially one that screams for long periods of time with no way to stop them, I pray for you that your baby doesn't develop colic. It's a horrible syndrome that affects a lot of newborns.

I'm 24 and IMO am not a ignorant prick. However, I do have a son, which has helped to change my world view a ton.


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