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Is there a difference in potency between indoor and outdoor grown mushrooms?
    #6489423 - 01/23/07 03:11 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

well is there??


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Re: Is there a difference in potency between indoor and outdoor grown mushrooms? [Re: knotty]
    #6489439 - 01/23/07 03:17 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

There are so many variables that go into this. Start reading....


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Re: Is there a difference in potency between indoor and outdoor grown mushrooms? [Re: dedjam]
    #6489597 - 01/23/07 04:02 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I believe indoor ones are better then outdoor ones if they are grown properly and accuratly


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Re: Is there a difference in potency between indoor and outdoor grown mushrooms? [Re: knotty]
    #6489638 - 01/23/07 04:16 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

indoors are gooderer


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Re: Is there a difference in potency between indoor and outdoor grown mushrooms? [Re: leftdownandup]
    #6490283 - 01/23/07 08:36 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah indoor is better, because they are grown in optimal conditions. Also you have the opportunity to only grow the best strains.


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Re: Is there a difference in potency between indoor and outdoor grown mushrooms? [Re: blewmeanie]
    #6491727 - 01/24/07 07:36 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I wonder how many people have actually taken a wild strain, that they have eaten, and grew it indoors to see if there is any difference.

Im willing to bet that the differences between indoor shrooms and wild shrooms are minimal.


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Re: Is there a difference in potency between indoor and outdoor grown mushrooms? [Re: blewmeanie]
    #6491762 - 01/24/07 08:28 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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Also you have the opportunity to only grow the best strains.




Really? The best strains? And what would those be?


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Re: Is there a difference in potency between indoor and outdoor grown mushrooms? [Re: dedjam] * 1
    #6492253 - 01/24/07 01:06 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry I was a little high when I wrote that, what I meant was the fastest growing, and the largest fruiting. I didnt mean a specific strain.


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Re: Is there a difference in potency between indoor and outdoor grown mushrooms? [Re: blewmeanie]
    #6492415 - 01/24/07 01:55 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

potency can go either way, seems to be more genetic related than anything else... you can find nearly inactive ones in the wild or ones that put you on your ass with ease... likewise indoors, but under controlled circumstances there's tricks you can play with those genetics to isolate cultures that provide consistent potency.  potent genetics in less than optimal conditions should still give pretty potent fruits, yet poor genetics in absolutely flawless perfect conditions can give you some bunk fruits.  its all the nature of the game...

as for rate of growth, indoors almost certainly grows faster assuming  optimal conditions.  outdoor ones might seem to suddenly pop up out of nowhere say after a rain, but rest assured their mycelial network has been around for some time and was ready to go at that given point - not to mention tiny mushroom "pins" are more obscured by debris and such outside, you don't notice them until they're big enough to notice, and at that point they're mere days from maturity.  as to size, outdoor ones are often larger because they have a whole earth worth of moisture to draw from and moisture availability is a critical determining factor in size.  that's not to say you can't grow bigguns indoors, but you have to provide a lot of growing substrate in order to achieve big results.

so it all varies... luck of the draw on wild ones versus methods, techniques and skill level of a particular indoor cultivator... the answer to your question is there really is no certain "reliable" answer. :wink:


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Re: Is there a difference in potency between indoor and outdoor grown mushrooms? [Re: creamcorn]
    #6493303 - 01/24/07 06:36 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

we all know Light/uv rays break down shrooms. Like mushrooms in the shade are stronger.

Indoor shroom usualy arent exposed to those harmfull rays.

Indoor are more potent.


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Re: Is there a difference in potency between indoor and outdoor grown mushrooms? [Re: FungiRape]
    #6494778 - 01/25/07 04:22 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

So far I'm hearing a bunch of assumptions.
I havent seen any prooof/evidence that indoor shrooms are more potent than outdoor shrooms.


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Re: Is there a difference in potency between indoor and outdoor grown mushrooms? [Re: niteowl]
    #6495653 - 01/25/07 01:57 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

a lot of our understanding of mushrooms as growers is assumption.

Not really much conclusive scietific data in the repetoir. What happened to psychopharmacology :frown:


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Re: Is there a difference in potency between indoor and outdoor grown mushrooms? [Re: Cepheus]
    #6495763 - 01/25/07 02:37 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I would say you have the best opportunity to isolate a really potent culture, and provide it with optimal substrate, and moisture indoors. Outside its all about luck.


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Re: Is there a difference in potency between indoor and outdoor grown mushrooms? [Re: blewmeanie]
    #6496068 - 01/25/07 04:20 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

what if I took some mycelium syringes and injected my compost heap?


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Re: Is there a difference in potency between indoor and outdoor grown mushrooms? [Re: Cepheus]
    #6496100 - 01/25/07 04:35 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

and then used the same LC to to inoculate some PF cakes... ?

I could bio-assay it :grin:


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Re: Is there a difference in potency between indoor and outdoor grown mushrooms? [Re: Cepheus]
    #6496414 - 01/25/07 06:14 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

a lot of our understanding of mushrooms as growers is assumption.


Exactly.

I have grown some of the local cubes here. I have had the unique experience of comparing the two.

Wild cubes will blow the sox off of PF cakes.

PF cakes simply don't have enough nutrients to fully satisfy the cube, making it more potent.

Home grown cubes, grown on some kind of straw/poo substrate, may be more potent than wild ones.

When I get my grow room set up, I will try an experiment with a straw/poo substrate, with the local shrooms, to see if there is any difference.


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Re: Is there a difference in potency between indoor and outdoor grown mushrooms? [Re: niteowl]
    #6496517 - 01/25/07 06:45 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

home grown shrooms IMO are usually right there with the outdoor that i find. sometimes they are more potent indoors but usually i cant tell the difference.
fresh outdoor shrooms blow my mind always with just a few caps. plus they are so huge!


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