Quote:

---

VirgilKane said:
Conditioning and control....

It is difficult to form an impression of a mushroom trip from only hearsay.  an extensive amount of reading  (about both good and bad experiences) should be done to get anywhere close (if that's possible) to getting an impression of a trip.

Sounds like the mushrooms turned her conditioned thinking upside down and she neither expected this nor was she anywhere near prepared for it.  In turn she tried to fight it and in doing this it just made the fact that something evil (to her conditioned thinking) was inside her body trying to wrestle control from her ego.  Fighting it made it exponentially worse.

It is scary to think about going to sleep after a bad trip, especially when the experience is fresh because when you go to sleep you are basically turning over control again and trusting whatever or whomever you believe in to carry you through the night.  this is the thought that probably haunts her.

IMO it's a control issue and I speak of this from experience.

It's hard to wrap your head around the fact that someone basically needs to objectively accept that they have thoughts inside of them that they keep at bay in their day to day thoughts and so never really experience them.  We all have them and they are just what they are....thoughts They don't dictate who we are, they are just there.  Mushrooms can bring these to the surface for us to view and if you're not prepared to just acknowledge them and let them keep on flowing out of your head space, you will fight them and deny them and that only makes them linger. (with a vengeance)  Hence the term "Let go"!

These thoughts aren't who you are, they are just a part of you...

I hope that after everything quiets down and the initial shock of the experience fades, she will be better able to accept everything with a more open mind.  It may add some flexibility to her conditioned thoughts and be the seed that grows into a psychedelic warrior. (slowly, of course!)

Just let her know that she's not alone in her experience and that the very thing that she experienced is the very reason some take mushrooms...to delve into that space and learn to let it go.

---

Quote:

---

pokermush said:
Synopsis: My wife ate a very small amount, and had a horribly bad trip, my obervation is that it seemed like a level 5.

I'm hoping someone here can help. My wife and I are in our 30s, married 15+ years. She is religious (I'm not) and this is the first time she has tried ANYTHING, she's never even been drunk. We have 4 kids and a good marriage, which has gotten much better since I've been eating shrooms.

I told her about them and how they have benefitted me, and the positive impact on my outlook on life and toward my family. She told me to give her some. I had talked enough about magic mushrooms and psychedelic mushrooms throughout the day that I thought she understood, and maybe she thought so too, but she didn't.

Saturday night I got these beautiful cubes and measured less than 20 grams for her, the rest for me. I estimate she ate about 7 or 8 grams on a salad, I ate the rest -- around 50 to 60 grams. I know for me this will get me about to level 3, and I wouldn't be able to feel the effects of what she ate. I warned her that she might be a little extra happy for the rest of the night, and she might notice she enjoys things a little more, and that her senses would probably be heightened. One other thing I should mention, she was on her period.

About 15 minutes after eating them, she says "I feel like I could kill somebody". I could see this was looking to be a bad trip, so I took her upstairs, I almost had to carry her It was downhill from there. I took her up to the bedroom, practically carrying her, as she proceeded to have severe hallucinations and a total emotional breakdown. She was seeing blood dripping down on the wall and feeling hate and anger and rage. She was crying on the floor in the shower, screaming "Get it out of me!". She was saying she would kill people if she could. I tried to comfort her, telling her it's going to be OK and to think about happy things, but that only seemed to upset her more.

It was hard for me, because I am also feeling mine come on, and I have to keep it together for her. It was extremely difficult to form coherent sentences for her to try calm her down. My presence was enraging for her and only made it worse, so I had to just stay on the other side of the room.

She says that she felt like she was dying, alive only by the thinnest thread, that evil was taking over and something was trying to take over her mind.

I experienced significant time dilation, so it is hard for me to gauge time (the movie "Cars" seemed to last about 3 to 4 hours), but is seemed like after about 30 minutes of pure hell, she started to pull it together. She was still a basket case and slipping in and out of panic attacks, but she thought it would be better to do normal things. So we went down to clean the kitchen. I finally remembered that sugar helps dampen the effects, so I made her some hot chocolate (a monumentally difficult task at the time). She kept asking "When is it going to stop?", and looking at the clock, which unfortunately made her even more anxious.

I finally remembered that "Cars" is one of her favorite movies, and funny and uplifting, so I found it and put it in. Once she started to focus on that, things improved. The panic attacks did return, but now she was able to fight them back. She has never had trouble with panic attacks before, but does sometimes have a tendency to be somewhat high-strung.

So now she is scared to go to sleep, and is afraid she'll never be the same. The thoughts and memories of the experience keep coming back to her and haunting her.

She wants the mushrooms out of the house and wants me never to take them again. She's terrified that I will experience what she did, and do something horrible. I'm hoping that I can find some information or experiences here that will help us understand what happened and come to peace with it, and hopefully not ruin the wonderful benefits shrooms have to offer for me and my family.

Anybody have some perspective on this?

---

Quote:

---

Coaster said:
"something was trying to take over her mind." - She obviously identifies her ego as her mind.

---