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OfflineVietKong
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Mescaline for a first real trip??
    #6478987 - 01/20/07 02:12 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I have alot of experience with drugs (MDMA, Amphetamines, lots of pot, etc) in general but relatively little experience with psychedelics (I've tried Salvia quite a few times and shrooms once but I was very drunk and I guess I didn't have enough because I experienced little effect).
Anyway, in two weeks time I will be tripping on some pedro with some friends at the beach. My friends are reasonably experienced with psychedelics (although not mescaline). I am just wondering if it wise to have a mescaline trip for my first proper, lengthy trip????

I once read Leary saying that of the Four major psychedelics, Mescaline is the easiest to control (i.e. avoid a bad trip) but the least safe. I'm curious as to what he meant by least safe. Most neuorotoxic maybe???? Anyway, that guy did talk some shit......


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Re: Mescaline for a first real trip?? [Re: VietKong]
    #6478996 - 01/20/07 02:16 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

It can possibly kill you, at very, very high, almost impossible to reach doses, but in theory it is possible. But it is very gentle as most say. Some others say it is, "feel good in the morning medicine." Meaning you make it through the night and you feel good after having gone through it. Nevertheless, you will enjoy it. Mescaline can do little but be enjoyed by humans. It is very gentle and long lasting. Love it.

The nausea is what most people hate. If you can get over it, no prob,bob. That is if you can handle the general confusion that comes with psychedelics!

Edited by mecreateme (01/20/07 03:36 AM)

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Re: Mescaline for a first real trip?? [Re: mecreateme]
    #6479066 - 01/20/07 02:56 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Shouldn't be a problem. Mescaline was my second physcedelic and I loved it.


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Re: Mescaline for a first real trip?? [Re: VietKong]
    #6479277 - 01/20/07 07:40 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I think mescaline may be the ideal introduction to psychedelics.


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Re: Mescaline for a first real trip?? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #6479773 - 01/20/07 12:17 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

is mescaline very visual at all?
having ample experience with lsd and some with shrooms itd be nice to try and see something new..:mushroom2:


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Re: Mescaline for a first real trip?? [Re: Littleman]
    #6479837 - 01/20/07 12:57 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I would love to try mescaline,too bad it's not around here like...ever! :frown:


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Re: Mescaline for a first real trip?? [Re: Liquid_Dimension]
    #6480138 - 01/20/07 03:24 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

There is mescaline available in EVERY STATE, you just need to know where to get it.

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Re: Mescaline for a first real trip?? [Re: badreligion2good]
    #6480271 - 01/20/07 04:28 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

My first trip was a heavy mescaline trip. I think it is quite safe. To my knowledge nobody has actually died from an overdose, and the theoretical LD50 is 3-5 times a normal dose.

In a way it is good to start, but it is kind of long if you aren't prepared for it and isn't as obviously intellectual or insightful as acid. Mescaline is VERY visual. It is easier and more positive than probobly mushrooms, or even acid, at least in normal doses.

If you want to just relax and feel one with the universe and take things easy mescaline is a good choice. Not that it isn't emotional, or that it is totally easy, but I think it is relatively easygoing.


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Re: Mescaline for a first real trip?? [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #6480303 - 01/20/07 04:39 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

"LD50 is 3-5 times a normal dose."

I think it's quite a bit more than that.


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Re: Mescaline for a first real trip?? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #6480978 - 01/20/07 08:52 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the info guys. We might even reschedule to this week as we all have some time off. It should be awesome. We are going to a secluded beach on the edge of a big forest. We will bring some drums and a stereo system and maybe some more activities. It's quite a long drive to it aswell so that should be fun. Woohoo.
I'm planning on drinking some beers and whisky while there aswell, will that effect the trip too much??


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Re: Mescaline for a first real trip?? [Re: VietKong]
    #6481266 - 01/20/07 11:21 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

If you're gonna drink... do it for the comedown. If you want to add to your trip while tripping try some weed or nitrous.


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Re: Mescaline for a first real trip?? [Re: goodolgoogy]
    #6482395 - 01/21/07 01:03 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

about ~400mg of mescaline hydrochloride was my first trip. great stuff...wish I took around 600mg though. definitely one of the best introductory psychotropic drugs.


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Re: Mescaline for a first real trip?? [Re: HeadTripVertigo]
    #6482417 - 01/21/07 01:12 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

mescaline:

LD50 crystals : 212 mg/kg i.p.(mice)
LD50 crystals : 132 mg/kg i.p. (rats)
LD50 crystals : 328 mg/kg i.p.(guinea pigs)

If I remember correctly, severy body toxicity in humans start around 3000mg.

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Re: Mescaline for a first real trip?? [Re: hjalmar]
    #6482703 - 01/21/07 02:30 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

depending on your size, weight, etc.  id consult erowid for dosage amount.

i know ive doe it 3 times, 1st - 400mg, 2nd - 650mg, 3rd - 820mg.  The potentcy was quite high and of very good product.  I extracted it myself through an a/b extraction.  Results were good, but i defiently suggest smoking with it as well.  It will maek the trip so much more fun and suttle.

Easily controllable without a doubt :wink:
Have a good time.


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