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OfflineLesChanga
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    #6480178 - 01/20/07 03:45 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: a dunk [Re: LesChanga]
    #6480188 - 01/20/07 03:50 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Just follow the PF tek and you will get good result no need to change it.

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Re: a dunk [Re: MyPhilosophy]
    #6480245 - 01/20/07 04:18 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Only one way to find out if nobody knows, do it. However, unless you are trying to experiment I would just do what is time tested and true.

Also, I think there is a good chance the salt would either harm the mycelium or not hydrate it enough. Think about it this way, If your thirsty, its not gonna help to drink salt water.

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Re: a dunk [Re: JoelLoveland5]
    #6480250 - 01/20/07 04:21 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I also cant say I know the true answer to this question but it does not sound like a good idea to me,If it was I think everyone would already be doing it seeing how cheap and plentiful salt is

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Re: a dunk [Re: Blutjager]
    #6480261 - 01/20/07 04:25 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I would think that it would end up dehydrating the cake.

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Re: a dunk [Re: PipeMania]
    #6480307 - 01/20/07 04:41 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah dont do it unless your trying to experiment. Cant you put a little hydrogen peroxide in the water to prevent contamination when dunking?

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Re: a dunk [Re: JoelLoveland5]
    #6480370 - 01/20/07 05:03 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I wouldn't attempt it. Because if mycelium contains any salt naturally this will be diffused out of the mycelium cells into the salt/water solution. When you were a kid have you ever seen salt put onto a slug, they shrivel right up.


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Re: a dunk [Re: Willsk8t4shrooms]
    #6480486 - 01/20/07 05:53 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

salt obsorbs water as far as i know and ur trying to hydrate so i wouldnt

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Re: a dunk [Re: Spooky6075]
    #6481410 - 01/21/07 12:15 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Salt does not absorb water. Rather, water absorbs salt. That is to say, salt is inclined to enter into solution with water. Because of NaCl's high solubility in water, water will tend to pass through a cell's walls (in a region of comparatively low salinity) toward a salt source (in a region of comparatively high salinity), producing osmosis. Consequently, high enough external salinity will destroy a cell by depriving it of its water content. And water will very rapidly leave a slug's cells (and thus destroy them) when salt is poured onto it.

The viability of psilocybe in somewhat saline water would be dependent on the relative salinity of mycelium itself and, I think, on how its transport system responds to NaCl (i.e., whether it facilitates its diffusion or inhibits it). In any case, I see no reason why psilocybe would be any more amenable to saline water than would any of its competitor organisms (molds, bacteria and all those nasties).

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Re: a dunk [Re: Yst]
    #6482004 - 01/21/07 09:57 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

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Yst said:
Salt does not absorb water. Rather, water absorbs salt. That is to say, salt is inclined to enter into solution with water. Because of NaCl's high solubility in water, water will tend to pass through a cell's walls (in a region of comparatively low salinity) toward a salt source (in a region of comparatively high salinity), producing osmosis. Consequently, high enough external salinity will destroy a cell by depriving it of its water content. And water will very rapidly leave a slug's cells (and thus destroy them) when salt is poured onto it.



Absolutely correct. Keyword here being osmosis. Water will move through a semi-permeable membrane (cell wall) from low concentration of solute to a high concentration.

On the other hand, if you put a cell solution with too LOW of a salinity, you can oversaturate the cell with water until it actually bursts. Luckily, as far as we know, no one's actually been able to do this yet with mycelium.

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Re: a dunk [Re: Sillicybin]
    #6482049 - 01/21/07 10:24 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Hypertonic solution!


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Re: a dunk [Re: Willsk8t4shrooms]
    #6482057 - 01/21/07 10:31 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

It might make the cake tastier.

In the past, when I eat my morning rice cake with a cup of coffee and my first smoke, I'd be lying if I said that the rice cake wasn't a bit on the bland side.

Perhaps I'll give it a go tomorrow morning. Anyone consider aromatics as well, like a splash of balsalmic vinegar or port wine?

Sorry for the sarcasm; it's too damn early in the morning still for me.


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Re: a dunk [Re: faceyneck]
    #6482097 - 01/21/07 10:54 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Salt is toxic to fungi. Soak in plain water.
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