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OfflineSeril
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The setup. help! (pix)
    #648088 - 05/27/02 04:05 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Posting for a friend of mine,
He's having a lot of troubble keeping heat constant, plus or minus a few degrees.
The temprature fluxuation is about 10 degrees right now..
during day, boxes can get to 78F, and at night, 68F. I think his temprature fluxuations may be causing uneven pinsets, and an abnormally high number of Aborts.


this is his current setup.. all the heat comes from a heating blanket, placed on the top of the shelf, and the 2 12 gal tubs rest on the blanket.

does anyone have any suggestions on how to effectively raise the temp of something this size to a homogenious 85F, and the other end, a homogenious 75F. with FAIRLY consistant temps... ie.. not much fluxuation from night/day.
(he's afraid that when attempting to raise temps to incubation levels, that the bottem will burn, in order to get the top to 85ish... so bottem will be 93ish while top may be just right.)

thx.
-Seril


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Post deleted by MOE THE MAD SCIENTIST [Re: Seril]
    #648104 - 05/27/02 04:16 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: The setup. help! (pix) [Re: vatoloco]
    #648410 - 05/27/02 07:10 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I feel that a temp varying between 75 and 85 F is just perfect. Your substrate and casing will hold the temp steady just fine. Nie set-up!


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Re: The setup. help! (pix) [Re: UrbanistiC]
    #648438 - 05/27/02 07:20 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

thats a pretty tough looking photo urbanistic... i wouldnt want to meet you in a lonely alley late at night on an urban excursion


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Re: The setup. help! (pix) [Re: vatoloco]
    #648544 - 05/27/02 08:33 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

aye, I would say there is some desgin flaw here.
so how should he fix it? my friend said he would try covering the boxes with towels at night,
but that seems too practical and manual for him. everyone loves automation!

Yes, its working well, but could be better.
he's yet to see the "forrest flushes" that are coveted so.

yes, temps varry in the wild as well. but ideal temps are ideal temps,
fruits would prefer temps do not varry, and a constant appropriate temp
seems like it would make a large casing much happier.

I think a temp fluxuation of 10 degrees is a little steep, and may cause the high amount of Aborts he is seeing,
and may also be the reason for the uneven pinsets... he's been seeing sparatic random pinsets of 2-6 pins nearly every week,
for the past 6 weeks... it keeps going... and going... and going... the fruits are abnormally large too. curious.

-Seril


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Re: The setup. help! (pix) [Re: Seril]
    #648677 - 05/27/02 10:23 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Well there are two ways in which I see would help, but I dont know about fixing completely.

One, would be to have an aquarium heater inside the tub on a timer. Having it on during the night and leaving it off during the day or just on for a little bit to keep things up, if it gets too cold.

The other would just to insulate it better. Styrofoam can be cut into a box that would fit around the outside of the aquarium. Buy weather stripping for the top of the box so its more air-tight.

I would also get rid of the heating blanket, and just get a thing inside.

Oh well one last one would be to get a cheap room-heater and set it to 72F. And point it in the direction of the boxes. Still might be a slight change.

In the winter my house got down to 50 at night, and 80 during the day. I just had an aquarium heater in my terrarium, and turned it up to my desired temp, 74F, and it wouldnt get any lower than 70 and any higher than 78, and it my guys did fine.


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Re: The setup. help! (pix) [Re: angryshroom]
    #649682 - 05/28/02 02:40 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

thanks Angryshroom!
but how would one place a fish heater in such a contraption!
if you can see from the pic, the boxes are both about 4-5 inch thick with substarte/casing material. he would have to set th heater directly on the casing material... or somehow velcro it to the side? not sure if i have room..
I'll ask him tomorrow what he plans on doing.

good suggestions, thanks.
-Seril


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