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Re: Heroic dose [Re: Noveltyhead]
    #6474179 - 01/18/07 05:45 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

It varies for everyone. 3.5 grams of good mushies can be heroic for me. Other people might need 5, or 7 grams to hit that level. The most I've ever taken was 5.1gs & that was fucking out there to say the least.


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Re: Heroic dose [Re: Dark_Star]
    #6474382 - 01/18/07 06:48 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I consider 7g+ to be heroic in my opinion, it is just so different then anything below it


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Re: Heroic dose [Re: apfrommsp]
    #6474453 - 01/18/07 07:13 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I dont mind taking some heavy doses, but I get alot more out of 7 grams than I do 12 grams. In my opinion and peronal experience, anything more than 7 grams is just a retarded thing to be doing to myself anymore. That and I am a 1.5-3.5 gram kinda guy.

Id never eat more than 5 grams again. For a person like me, a dose like 12 grams just makes my life too complex for a long time.
The after effects last a lifetime, and I have way to much respect for my organic brain, which is inherently changed for life drastically ever after any dose above 7 grams.

I consider 5 grams to be the heroic dose, for me.

I personally find that the people I know who take doses over 10 grams every time can by all means handle it, but those are some of the dumbest people I know. There is an obvious reason that they can take so much. They are very simple people. They are the kind of people who would say something like, "I can eat any amount of mushrooms", or " im telling you man, anything under 10 grams is not a heroic dose".....

People react differently. Some people say they cant see visuals sometimes when they take 3.5 grams. I however cant not see visuals on .5 grams.....That would be impossible.


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
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Re: Heroic dose [Re: yageman]
    #6474979 - 01/18/07 09:57 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Ok, in response to the above post, you must realize there are exceptions to your generalization that "anyone who takes a 'heroic' dose is dumb and simple"

That said, it's all subjective, rendering this thread virtually pointless. One of the things to keep in mind is that a more physically fit person - someone with a higher metabolism - will generally trip harder off the same dose. I gave my portly friend 9 fresh ones for his birthday and he only ever caught a buzz.

I weigh 155 lbs and work out 3 times a week. The most mushrooms I've ever eaten is 17 freshly harvested, about half of them with broken veils. If I had to guess based on experience and good judgement, I would say it would have been between 9 and 12 grams dried (this based on size and such). They were cubensis, with a pinhole down the middle of the stem. I broke the stem of one and within seconds it turned dark blue-ish.

It is the hardest I have ever tripped in my life. Exponentially harder then when I ate 12 (same circumstances). The body load I had was incredible, only surpassed by visuals and the head trip. I ate them with my friend (we had the same dose) and he could only utter non-sequiturs, whereas I had completely lost the ability to make a sound, let alone form syllables. To this day, it's the most fun I have ever had in my life. A complete temporal orgasm. And I will say this: it was the best Super Smash Bros. I have ever played.


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Re: Heroic dose [Re: nonsqtr]
    #6474998 - 01/18/07 10:03 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

nonsqtr said:
Ok, in response to the above post, you must realize there are exceptions to your generalization that "anyone who takes a 'heroic' dose is dumb and simple"

That said, it's all subjective, rendering this thread virtually pointless. One of the things to keep in mind is that a more physically fit person - someone with a higher metabolism - will generally trip harder off the same dose. I gave my portly friend 9 fresh ones for his birthday and he only ever caught a buzz.

I weigh 155 lbs and work out 3 times a week. The most mushrooms I've ever eaten is 17 freshly harvested, about half of them with broken veils. If I had to guess based on experience and good judgement, I would say it would have been between 9 and 12 grams dried (this based on size and such). They were cubensis, with a pinhole down the middle of the stem. I broke the stem of one and within seconds it turned dark blue-ish.

It is the hardest I have ever tripped in my life. Exponentially harder then when I ate 12 (same circumstances). The body load I had was incredible, only surpassed by visuals and the head trip. I ate them with my friend (we had the same dose) and he could only utter non-sequiturs, whereas I had completely lost the ability to make a sound, let alone form syllables. To this day, it's the most fun I have ever had in my life. A complete temporal orgasm. And I will say this: it was the best Super Smash Bros. I have ever played.




You clearly misread my post. I made it very clear that this was "in my own personal experience".

Thanks for teaching me a thing or two though.....lol

Its all subjective, right dude? Is that not what I was saying all along? Well, I hope you learn to read a bit better... Thanks for the info.


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You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
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Re: Heroic dose [Re: yageman]
    #6475149 - 01/18/07 11:14 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Hah, oh boy I guess I just had one of those *duhhh* moments of selective reading. I dunno...I guess it kinda stood out in my mind. Man do I feel like a dope...and it certainly adds more substance to your "in my experience" statement. Haha...

EDIT - after re-reading the trip-levels, I would have to say my trip was a 4.8. Blending of visual and tangible senses was bluured immensely. It's a funny little story actually.


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Re: Heroic dose [Re: yageman]
    #6475262 - 01/19/07 12:03 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Ok, in response to the above post, you must realize there are exceptions to your generalization that "anyone who takes a 'heroic' dose is dumb and simple"

That said, it's all subjective, rendering this thread virtually pointless. One of the things to keep in mind is that a more physically fit person - someone with a higher metabolism - will generally trip harder off the same dose. I gave my portly friend 9 fresh ones for his birthday and he only ever caught a buzz.

I weigh 155 lbs and work out 3 times a week. The most mushrooms I've ever eaten is 17 freshly harvested, about half of them with broken veils. If I had to guess based on experience and good judgement, I would say it would have been between 9 and 12 grams dried (this based on size and such). They were cubensis, with a pinhole down the middle of the stem. I broke the stem of one and within seconds it turned dark blue-ish.

It is the hardest I have ever tripped in my life. Exponentially harder then when I ate 12 (same circumstances). The body load I had was incredible, only surpassed by visuals and the head trip. I ate them with my friend (we had the same dose) and he could only utter non-sequiturs, whereas I had completely lost the ability to make a sound, let alone form syllables. To this day, it's the most fun I have ever had in my life. A complete temporal orgasm. And I will say this: it was the best Super Smash Bros. I have ever played.


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Re: Heroic dose [Re: nonsqtr]
    #6475473 - 01/19/07 02:18 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Wow a repost.
I didnt ask you to defend yourself by reposting what you already said.

I never said anything like "that" though. You have your head in your ass if I can be honest with you.

I am very seldom an asshole on this site, but you sir are fuckin ridiculous. You cant meet me half way with that logic I presented right???? SOmehow took what I said out of context and got offended or some such shit?

christ man....

Im sure you think gaint people need more lsd aswell.......
It really doesnt vary that much because of body type. Its mostly a mental thing anyways.

Ye a jag......

I have taken well beyond what I consider to be a heroic dose. Cant you read dude? You deserve a rating......... and I never give bad ratings.

So you had a 4.8 level trip right. You had blending visuals and tangible senses that were blurred immensely......
You are very funny. Fuck off man.... You are way too stubborn.
I didnt say anything that warrents such an off hand remark.

It really is as if you cant read......

Whatever the hell you want to think is fine with me dude.


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.


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Re: Heroic dose [Re: yageman]
    #6475504 - 01/19/07 02:54 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

yageman said:
I dont mind taking some heavy doses, but I get alot more out of 7 grams than I do 12 grams. In my opinion and peronal experience, anything more than 7 grams is just a retarded thing to be doing to myself anymore. That and I am a 1.5-3.5 gram kinda guy.

Id never eat more than 5 grams again. For a person like me, a dose like 12 grams just makes my life too complex for a long time.
The after effects last a lifetime, and I have way to much respect for my organic brain, which is inherently changed for life drastically ever after any dose above 7 grams.

I consider 5 grams to be the heroic dose, for me.

I personally find that the people I know who take doses over 10 grams every time can by all means handle it, but those are some of the dumbest people I know. There is an obvious reason that they can take so much. They are very simple people. They are the kind of people who would say something like, "I can eat any amount of mushrooms", or " im telling you man, anything under 10 grams is not a heroic dose".....

People react differently. Some people say they cant see visuals sometimes when they take 3.5 grams. I however cant not see visuals on .5 grams.....That would be impossible.




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You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.


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Re: Heroic dose [Re: yageman]
    #6475777 - 01/19/07 08:40 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

i'd guess at around 9 grams (for me at least ((even though the highest i've dosed is 7 g's))) is where i'd be immerssed in "hyperspace". on my first ever shroom trip of 7 g's i was slipping in and out of consciousness (sp?) and experiencing to a slight degree that energetic realm. paul stamets doesn't recommend going over 7 g's without the guidance of a skilled shaman. for me, 7 g's is amazing, but i think 6 g's (or 2.4 w/ lemon/lime juice) (for me, being around 185 lbs.) is the ideal amount for a full-on experience.


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Re: Heroic dose [Re: Noveltyhead]
    #6475800 - 01/19/07 08:55 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

For me I would say 5-7 is as far as I would want to go. My next trip I am going for 5g to see what happens. I have done 4g and that was not too much for me I still feel like I could go for more and a more intense trip but I am going to move up slowly. I eventually want to do a level 5 trip but I am gaining experience a little bit at a time. I like to trip once a month it kinda lifts my spirits a little.


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Re: Heroic dose [Re: Noveltyhead]
    #6475873 - 01/19/07 09:25 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

My friend ate 80 grams fresh - straight up - and he loved it! He's a monster though - never had a bad trip in his life just keeps laughing! Fuck nows how he does it - i ate 20 grams of the same batch and was insanely blown away.


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Re: Heroic dose [Re: Ego Death]
    #6475910 - 01/19/07 09:41 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I would say 7-9 grams. All the best trips I have had were with lower doses though.


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Re: Heroic dose [Re: ShroomOmatic]
    #6475941 - 01/19/07 09:56 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

"heroic doses" are entirely subjective and vary from person to person... I feel no need to take massive amounts of mushrooms, and hope i never will, i usually just do 1.5 - 2 grams soaked in lemon juice, sends me to a nice place


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Re: Heroic dose [Re: Cryptix]
    #6475982 - 01/19/07 10:07 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

most i have ever done was 7 grams, pretty fucking intense :eek:


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