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    #6473789 - 01/18/07 05:09 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Does anyone here use bleach to pastuerize straw? If so how effective is it? The formula is on mycotopia. Its something like 1 cup bleach to 10 gallons of water for 4 to 12 hours.


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Re: bleach to past. [Re: rollypolly]
    #6473816 - 01/18/07 05:19 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

load in pillow case and pasteurize in a pot, it works and its easy


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Re: bleach to past. [Re: odium33]
    #6473906 - 01/18/07 05:52 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Its a pain in the azz for me to do that. The pre soak, keeping temps just right,(with a bad therm.) and basically taking my kitchen over for 3 hours. Was wondering if the cold bleach would be effective enough.


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Re: bleach to past. [Re: rollypolly]
    #6474004 - 01/18/07 06:39 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I never use bleach for anything other than sterilizing tools and other equipment that will be used.


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Re: bleach to past. [Re: kinrui]
    #6474436 - 01/18/07 09:09 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

It's a horrible way to pasteurize straw. The bleach kills off all the bacteria, some of which are actually beneficial in bulk substrates, while not killing off all the molds, which are very harmful in bulk substrates.

I'd recommend heat and/or lime pasteurization, but not bleach.
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Re: bleach to past. [Re: kinrui]
    #6474612 - 01/18/07 10:01 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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kinrui said:
I never use bleach for anything other than sterilizing tools and other equipment that will be used.




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Re: bleach to past. [Re: rollypolly]
    #6474820 - 01/18/07 11:06 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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rollypolly said:
Does anyone here use bleach to pastuerize straw? If so how effective is it? The formula is on mycotopia. Its something like 1 cup bleach to 10 gallons of water for 4 to 12 hours.




Bleach is a fine way to CLEAN up straw for bulk substrates. All of the advice above is wrong. There's absolutely nothing wrong with using bleach for cleaning up bulk substrate material. Nodda.


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Re: bleach to past. [Re: Hotnuts]
    #6475000 - 01/19/07 12:04 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

And by the way, that ratio is correct. For straw and cold tap water go with at the least 6 hours of total soak time.


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Re: bleach to past. [Re: Hotnuts]
    #6475006 - 01/19/07 12:06 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Im trying it now so I guess we ll see. I will have 2 small logs going 1 with the heat and lime and 1 with just bleach. Im using your tek Rodger (keep up the good work) and I know you use heat and lime, and hate bleach no matter what. I just wanted to make the pasteurization step alittle less troublesome. If I've read correctly you said or and/or lime. Can I just use lime without the heat. If so how? Also can I use miracle lime? Its S hydrated lime.
Thanks for all help


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Re: bleach to past. [Re: rollypolly]
    #6475020 - 01/19/07 12:10 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks Hot
Its soaking as we speak.  :smile:


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Re: bleach to past. [Re: rollypolly]
    #6475062 - 01/19/07 12:30 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Just to clear up something, using bleach to "pasteurize" something isn't accurate. It's more along the lines of "cleaning" and "buying" yourself 2 weeks of time for complete colonization. That's if you've used the ratio and times above. Don't worry man, you'll be fine.

I know this from experience, not guess work.


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Re: bleach to past. [Re: Hotnuts]
    #6475232 - 01/19/07 01:51 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Thats all the time I need. Although I think I went a quarter cup more on the ratio but still should be good. 8 hours soaking. Now waiting for it to drain.
Thanks for the reply :thumbup:


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