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my next car.
    #6469326 - 01/17/07 12:10 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

well ive been doing some research and it came down to a 2006 Mitsubishi Lancer.. or a 2007 Subaru Impreza.. and ive decided to go with the 07' Impreza.

2.5Liter, 173 HP (stock)... compared to 2.0 Liter and about 120 HP from the Lancer...

both run around 19,000

one HUGE advantage of the subaru's are AWD.

im pretty excited, im getting ready to order it here in 2-3 weeks, and hopefully pick it up early May.  :smile:


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Re: my next car. [Re: Banez]
    #6469334 - 01/17/07 12:11 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

...yeah the lancer is like a corolla. only worthy at the evo level. Impreza's are always neat.

be sure to get manual.


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Re: my next car. [Re: Colbadol]
    #6469338 - 01/17/07 12:12 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

i cant drive stick..


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Re: my next car. [Re: Banez]
    #6469343 - 01/17/07 12:13 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

givin up?
youll learn in a week. And it's way more enjoyable.
you can learn anything if you want to. :smile:


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Re: my next car. [Re: Colbadol]
    #6469351 - 01/17/07 12:16 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

yeah, i just dont have anyone to teach me, or a vehicle to learn on

the main difference im seeing between the lancer and impreza is the warranty

10 year/ 100,000 mile by Lancer and only 5 year/ 60,000 miles with the Impreza.


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Re: my next car. [Re: Colbadol]
    #6469356 - 01/17/07 12:19 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

No the lancer is weaker than the corolla.

Corolla Engine:
2002–2005 — 2ZZ-GE — 1.8 L (1796 cc) I4, 16-valve DOHC, FI, VVTL-i, 189 hp (141 kW)

That's a 1.8L with nearly 200HP.

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Re: my next car. [Re: Banez]
    #6469360 - 01/17/07 12:20 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

mitsubishi really is goin down the tubes though. For the price range, have you looked at the civic? Why have you picked the Lancer and the Impreza?


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    #6469361 - 01/17/07 12:21 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

link me to where the corolla has 189 HP with a 1.8L engine.. im not buying that

i dont see how a 1.8 has that much power...

the subaru's 2.5 16 Valve is only packing 173HP. 166 Torque


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Re: my next car. [Re: Banez]
    #6469371 - 01/17/07 12:22 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I have loved my subaru.. i had an XT6 for awhile.. my mom had a rally impreza back in 2000.. we just have always had very good service with subaru

and fuck civics.. im soo sick of seeing them everywhere.


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Re: my next car. [Re: Maverick]
    #6469373 - 01/17/07 12:23 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: my next car. [Re: Banez]
    #6469379 - 01/17/07 12:24 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)


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Re: my next car. [Re: Maverick]
    #6469382 - 01/17/07 12:26 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

ok well heres a reputable site... directly from toyota.com

and like i thought.. its at 126HP

http://ebrochure.interx2.net/pdfengine/generate.pdf


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Re: my next car. [Re: Banez]
    #6469384 - 01/17/07 12:26 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I drove a 2003 Corolla while my ex drove a 2003 Lancer.  His car was such a piece of shit.  Don't buy a lancer.  An Impreza is a way better choice.  :thumbup:


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Re: my next car. [Re: Banez]
    #6469387 - 01/17/07 12:27 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

shit, that link isnt working, but i just went to toyota.com and looked at the vehicle specs..

its a 1.8 with 126HP.

and why would u trust any info you find on wikipedia?.. comeon you should know better.


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    #6469391 - 01/17/07 12:28 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

yeah, i really like the Impreza.. i havent got a chance to test drive on yet, but i dont think ill be let down..

plus i know someone at the dealership who will be able to get me a pretty good deal.


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Re: my next car. [Re: Banez]
    #6469393 - 01/17/07 12:28 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Banez, there are different models of the same car. Quit looking at the cheapest option.

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Re: my next car. [Re: Banez]
    #6469395 - 01/17/07 12:28 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

and look at the links i posted. There's your proof.


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Re: my next car. [Re: Colbadol]
    #6469396 - 01/17/07 12:29 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: my next car. [Re: Colbadol]
    #6469397 - 01/17/07 12:29 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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2ZZ-GE
2ZZ-GE Engine in the Corolla XRS
2ZZ-GE Engine in the Corolla XRS

The 2ZZ-GE is a 1.8 L (1796 cc) version built in Japan. Bore is 82 mm and stroke is 85 mm. Output is 180 hp (134 kW) at 7600 RPM with 130 ft·lbf (176 N·m) of torque at 6800 RPM. It uses MFI fuel injection, has VVTL-i, and features forged steel connecting rods. Compression ratio is 11.5:1. Unlike others in the ZZ family, the 2ZZ-GE requires "premium" gasoline - 91 octane or above in the USA. Power output for this engine varies depending on the application and tuning, with the Lotus Elise and Lotus Exige offering 190 hp but the Pontiac Vibe, Toyota Corolla and Toyota Matrix versions only developing 180 hp (+2005: 170 hp). The Australian variant (Corolla Sportivo and Celica GTS) is 141kw@7600 and 181N·m Torque due to noise regulations. (Toyota recalled them for a flash of the ECU to up their output to put them into the more lenient "sports car" noise category). The Corolla Compressor and Lotus Exige S add a supercharger to achieve 225 hp, while the Exige 240R's supercharger increases output to 240 hp.

The 2ZZ-GE utilizes a dual camshaft profile system (the "L" in VVTL-i, known by enthusiasts as "lift"), to produce the added power without an increase in displacement or forced induction compared to the lesser engines in the ZZ series. This is similar in concept to Honda's i-VTEC, but the two systems are very different in design and execution.
Disintegrated oil pump
Disintegrated oil pump

Toyota commissioned Yamaha to design the 2ZZ-GE, and it shares several similarities with street bike engines, the most notable being the relatively high RPM design. The high-output cam profile is not activated until above 6000 RPM (the exact point of engagement is different depending on the vehicle, year, and ECU involved). On all of the Toyota-built vehicles, redline begins at 8200 RPM while the tachometer is typically numbered to 9000, giving an incredibly small "unusable" range. The Toyota ECU electronically limits RPM to about 8200 (through fuel and/or spark cut). It is impossible to "over-rev" the engine with the throttle alone; a downshift from a higher gear is required. But if you manage to do it, the oil pump commonly disintegrates the lobe ring.

The motor will happily run at ~4000 RPM for extended periods of time, and during stress testing the motor will run at the 8200RPM redline for extended periods without issue. For the first few years of production, the engines were notorious for breaking off the "lift bolts" inside the engine. This didn't do any damage, but did hamper performance, as the high output cam profile would not engage properly. Toyota fixed the problem in late 2002, and there is a TSB for dealers showing what bolt to replace and the redesigned bolt.

Applications:

* Toyota Celica SS-II (Japan, 190 PS)
* Toyota Celica GT-S (USA, 180 hp)
* Toyota Celica 190/T-Sport (UK, 189hp)
* Toyota Corolla Sportivo (Australia, 182 hp)
* Toyota Corolla TS (Europe, 192 PS)
* Toyota Corolla Compressor (Europe, 225 PS)
* Toyota Corolla XRS (USA, 170 hp)
* Toyota Corolla Fielder Z Aero Tourer (Japan, 190 PS)
* Toyota Corolla Runx Z Aero Tourer (Japan, 190 PS)
* Toyota Matrix XRS
* Pontiac Vibe GT
* Lotus Elise (North America/UK)
* Lotus Exige (US/UK)




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Re: my next car. [Re: Maverick]
    #6469402 - 01/17/07 12:30 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

i dont see where those are available.. im trying to find it on toyota's site


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