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Horse_Meister
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Edible Strains
#6458157 - 01/14/07 10:20 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hello. I am new to this community, but not new to the fundamentals of mushroom cultivation. I am curious about edible gourmet mushroom strains. If you had to choose a strain to cultivate that could be grown with manure or straw, which gourmet strain would you choose? The question's response is intended for simplicity. As well, which vendor would be the best selection for live culture should I want to order something pre-isolated?
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RogerRabbit
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Welcome to the shroomery. I've recently found that hypsizygus ulmarius grows well on the pf tek.
For manure substrates, look into any of the agaricus mushrooms. All oyster mushrooms grow well on pasteurized straw.
Sporeworks has some edible cultures/syringes. Other vendors may have them as well. RR
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Horse_Meister
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Thanks for the welcoming. Is shittake worthwhile doing as far as difficulty, on manure/straw? I'll pass on the pf tek anyday. I'm not new to mycology by any means. I had dropped by Stamets site and the most popular kit was the shittake one.
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RogerRabbit
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You can grow shiitake on hardwood sawdust or a combination of sawdust/chips. You'll want to supplement the sawdust with up to 20% wheat or rice bran and 10% gypsum by volume. Here's a few pictures of some of my recent Shiitake grows. RR
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Horse_Meister
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Those are some nice photos. Any recommendations where to pickup sawdust/chips? Is there a tek you can link me to for some healthy reading? As well:
Can the mycelium be spawned on milo/pop corn?
Are the sawdust/chips pasteurized or sterilized?
If either in the above question, it is a good idea to use filter patch bags until complete colonization, or is there a much more efficient way?
Do you case them, if so, with what?
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Edited by Horse_Meister (01/14/07 03:49 PM)
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RogerRabbit
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Milo works, as does rye or wild bird seed. I'd stay away from popcorn as it's the worst possible choice for spawn.
Supplemented sawdust must be sterilized. The wheat bran harbors bacterial endospores and must be pressure cooked. If you fail to supplement the sawdust/woodchips, yields are greatly reduced.
You want to use jars or filter patch bags. Jars are great for grain spawn, but bags are really the best practical choice for sawdust/chips. I use the large, gusseted filter bags, and usually load them with around 17 to 20 cups of material.
My woodlover recipe: This fills two large spawn bags.
15 cups hardwood sawdust 2 cups wheat or rice bran. (wheat bran is much more economical) 1 cup gypsum. 15 cups moistened hardwood chips
Mix the dry ingredients together, then hydrate so the mixture sounds spongy when squeezed, but NO water comes out, even when you forcefully squeeze a handful. If any water squeezes out, toss in another handful of dry sawdust.
When the above is prepared, mix with an equal amount by volume of moistened hardwood chips. I soak the hardwood chips for 24 to 48 hours. If soaking is not an option, boil them for one hour to hydrate.
Load the above into two large bags and sterilize for 90 minutes at 15 psi. An AA 921 can hold four bags this size. RR
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Horse_Meister
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Thanks for the advice.
Any recommendations as to where sawdust/chips can be picked up? A retail store? What kind of store. Any advice is excellent.
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hey man, who said cubes aren't edible
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