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 rosewoodpete
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 Possible new strain.......very weird 
#644346 - 05/25/02 05:09 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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I ordered a syringe of equadors from sporeworks which i have done before with great results i might add. The whole process went normal until fruiting came and HOLY SHIT!!! These eq's look weird. All of them do. They look like a cross between equadors and mexicanas that sporeworks also carries. I don't have a microscope so i can't examine the spores. Not that there is many. It has a low sporulation amount. Very weird though, I'd appreciate some feedback and might be willing to trade some spores i pull off of them.
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 phrozendata
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 Re: Possible new strain.......very weird *DELETED* [Re: rosewoodpete]
#644368 - 05/25/02 05:48 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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rosewoodpete
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 Re: Possible new strain.......very weird [Re: phrozendata]
#644373 - 05/25/02 05:56 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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definitely not penis envy. looks like mexicana/ eq hybrid. blues like hell though
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Re: Possible new strain.......very weird [Re: rosewoodpete]
#644487 - 05/25/02 07:45 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've had a casing of EQ's before that also through out some weird ass booms. On a second flush I had one shroom that had a thick meaty stem but the cap looked just like a liberty cap and another one that also had a big meaty stem but the cap looked like a mexicana. It looked just like the pic on the sporeworks main page that has the mexicana that looks like a sombrero(sp?).
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rosewoodpete
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 Re: Possible new strain.......very weird [Re: HongKongChewy]
#644729 - 05/25/02 11:15 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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These buggers are real weird. You're not going to believe this but what appears to be sclerotia is forming on the cakes!!!!!!! And no its not just mutants. It really looks and feels like sclerotia and its doing it in numerous places. The first print goes to XAZIA1 cause she was nice to me. this is a weird one people.
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francisco
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Re: Possible new strain.......very weird [Re: rosewoodpete]
#644735 - 05/25/02 11:22 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Those look very much like Ps.mexicana.Look in the substate to see if any sclerotia are there.
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rosewoodpete
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Re: Possible new strain.......very weird [Re: francisco]
#644858 - 05/25/02 01:26 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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THOSE are ps. mexicana. I was using that pic as a reference. Imagine those without inverted caps and meatier stems and thats what i've got. especially note he color shanging caps with the center circle and much lighter outer ring. Thos are all char. of what i have. and i am baffled.
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too_many_weirdos
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 Re: Possible new strain.......very weird [Re: rosewoodpete]
#644876 - 05/25/02 01:57 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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maybe they goofed and sent you mexicana or tampenesis or something...
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rosewoodpete
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Re: Possible new strain.......very weird [Re: too_many_weirdos]
#645061 - 05/25/02 05:15 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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would those grow vigorously/normaly off of multiple pf tek cakes??? i thought that they wouldn't.
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cxz
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Re: Possible new strain.......very weird [Re: rosewoodpete]
#645262 - 05/25/02 08:05 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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We need PICS!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Possible new strain.......very weird [Re: cxz]
#645266 - 05/25/02 08:08 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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If it performs well of standard pf mix substrates and has a meaty stem - a large mushroom - chances are it is a type of cubensis - maybe just a different spore race to what you expected or could just be a genetic throw-off
Tampensis and Mexicanna are very small mushrooms
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too_many_weirdos
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 Re: Possible new strain.......very weird [Re: Zen Peddler]
#647975 - 05/27/02 12:54 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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if it's forming sclerotia i'm not so sure it can be a cubensis. i don't think cubensis has ever formed sclerotia...
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rosewoodpete
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Re: Possible new strain.......very weird [Re: too_many_weirdos]
#649965 - 05/28/02 04:48 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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5 cakes with what appears to be sclerotia. sporeworks said results like mine have been reported in rare cases. i admit i have never worked with sclerotia forming fungus before though.
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Re: Possible new strain.......very weird [Re: rosewoodpete]
#652680 - 05/30/02 06:16 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gulf Coast cubensis is reported to form sclerotia. But the way you describe it, is that its forming on the surface and normally sclerotia is invitro. Getting hydrogen peroxide or bleach on your cakes could be whats causing the mutants on the cakes.
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rosewoodpete
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Re: Possible new strain.......very weird [Re: cowflop]
#656300 - 05/31/02 04:52 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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They are very very potent though.....i dosed yesterday with two friends. myself and another took 3.5 grams and the other took about one. I have done lots of shrooms, peyote, and cid before and never puked. I puked yesterday and thought i was going to trip to death. My friend that took the same amount as me got into a fight with cattle and then went catatonic for about four hours and scared the shit out of us. He remembers nothing. My friend that took only 1 gram is a musician and lost his musical ability and saw everything in cartoons. In other words these ain't no normal cubes. That's my story and i'm sticking to it.
P.S. There is some peroxide in the water...1/50 to water so not much. not enough to cause the mutations.
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rosewoodpete
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Re: Possible new strain.......very weird [Re: rosewoodpete]
#657001 - 06/01/02 06:09 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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In an effort to keep those interested informed, i am continuing posting on this issue. Two of the cakes are putting off what appear to be close to normal ecuadors. They still have the weird caps. The rest are putting off shrooms identical to the pic above of the mexicana strain. But they are on brf cakes with sclerotia forming on them. No one has come forward to tell me whether or not mexicana will fruit and form sclerotia on brf cakes. The stems are much thicker and the potency is higher than normal cubes. I would like to know if anyone who has grown mexicana has done so on cakes. Sorry i don't have a big expensive digital camera to take pics with.
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Re: Possible new strain.......very weird [Re: rosewoodpete]
#657824 - 06/01/02 04:35 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you want to come off some prints, I would love to check out this strain... PM me, maby we can workout a trade. I love to do some expereimenting with it.
~ava
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jonnyshaggs420
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Re: Possible new strain.......very weird [Re: rosewoodpete]
#658048 - 06/01/02 07:03 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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well as a word of caution: STOP EATING THE MUSHROOMS FROM THAT CAKE!!!! Shrooms are not supposed to make you throw up, or make you catatonic. I have never ran into either case in all my shrooming years. I have seen the very same results from a test cake of Tazmanians. It is not a hybrid or a new strain. It is one of two likely hoods, 1. you go some bad spore pairings in your multispore innoc. 2. you have contamination, namely verticulm. The way you describe the caps, wavy and fat assed, with aborts forming only little sclerotium like balls, definately verticulum. Sometimes the mushrooms appear to have warts on them. I have had one associate that ingested 2 grams of mushrooms stricken with this and he reported excruciating stomach pain, vomiting and the hershey squirts from onset through the duration of the trip and for the next day aswell. My advice, toss the cake and all the shrooms you got from it and start anew. If you'd like, I'll send you a print to replace these, hell I'll send you a print and a syringe if you just toss those things. This is your health your dealing with!
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 Re: Possible new strain.......very weird [Re: rosewoodpete]
#658103 - 06/01/02 07:33 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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I bet you got a mislabeled syringe.
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rosewoodpete
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#658515 - 06/02/02 05:21 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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rosewoodpete
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Re: Possible new strain.......very weird [Re: rosewoodpete]
#660083 - 06/03/02 05:36 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Okay, so i cut up a cake and examined it thouroughly to check for conatamination and found none. But to my surprise i found sclerotia forming inside the cakes as well !!!!!!! But the fruits are huge and meaty things so it can't be a normal mexicana. And concerning the puking thing. I puked because i was out in a hot field with mean bulls making noises at me and i was trippping really really hard. I thought death was inevitable and i puked. It was an awesome trip. And my body did none of the liquid stuff jonny was talking about. When dried these shrooms turn a beautiful golden color around the cap with a huge dark nipple in the center. They are magnificent. I will name them after my old dog that died several years ago. muffy.
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Re: Possible new strain.......very weird [Re: rosewoodpete]
#660365 - 06/03/02 09:11 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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damn, I wish I had a pic of this to show you guys. I too ordered an EQ syringe from Sporeworks, and at first, I thought it was because of my newbieness or whatnot (lack of air, too much water, etc...), when I saw deformed looking shrooms growing on my cakes.
When I get home tonight, I'll try to get a pic of those guys drying, hopefully they won't dry too much so I can get a decent picture to show you what the original poster is talking about.
I took 2 grams of these guys, and yes it was a very nice, visual journey, but I also threw up big time.
Here's a "normal" shroom from that same cake,
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rosewoodpete
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Re: Possible new strain.......very weird [Re: lithiumcove]
#660375 - 06/03/02 09:18 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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You rock!!!! Thanx for throwing up a pic. Imagine that shroom much much bigger with a proportional sombrero mexicana cap and thats what i've got. way to go lc on chunking.
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