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You can't sell butane hash oil in Amsterdam...... just too potent
    #6440694 - 01/09/07 06:46 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I was told by a friend that you can't buy butane extracted hash oil in Amsterdam, for the sole purpose that it was too potent. Why would this be?


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Re: You can't sell butane hash oil in Amsterdam...... just too potent [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6440698 - 01/09/07 06:50 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

- My theory is that it could be a liability. Not for fatality issues, but maybe it could be related to some deaths.

For example.....
I was driving down the road, doing about 85-90mph and smoking a big bud i practically dipped into liquid butane extracted honey oil. I almost lost vision for more then 10 seconds, started to swerve a little, and i immediately started to decrease my speed to about 45mph in the fast lane, with people honking at me!! Fuck could of killed myself!! I don't smoke oil in the car anymore

- A friend of mine made some isomerised oil, put three drops on a bowl, smoked it and began to go into convulsions. He swears he won't let anyone leave his house without cutting the oil, to make it less potent. He claims it "could" be near fatal to someone unexpecting, and a low tolerance.


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Re: You can't sell butane hash oil in Amsterdam...... just too potent [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6441110 - 01/09/07 11:45 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

wow man, that sounds extremely dangerous, to get that messy while driving.

i would defo cut that oil.


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Re: You can't sell butane hash oil in Amsterdam...... just too potent [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6441131 - 01/09/07 11:51 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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I was told by a friend that you can't buy butane extracted hash oil in Amsterdam, for the sole purpose that it was too potent. Why would this be?




nothing is too potent for Amsterdam.


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Re: You can't sell butane hash oil in Amsterdam...... just too potent [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6441200 - 01/09/07 12:15 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

You can get oil in Amsterdam sure, but I'm, not a big fan of oil. Around there anything is possible. Oil, hash trichomes, and a boat load of other goodies.
For safeties sake oil IS very potent and I wouldn't be operating machinery while under the influence.
Enjoy your travels.


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Re: You can't sell butane hash oil in Amsterdam...... just too potent [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6441209 - 01/09/07 12:17 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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- My theory is that it could be a liability. Not for fatality issues, but maybe it could be related to some deaths.

For example.....
I was driving down the road, doing about 85-90mph and smoking a big bud i practically dipped into liquid butane extracted honey oil. I almost lost vision for more then 10 seconds, started to swerve a little, and i immediately started to decrease my speed to about 45mph in the fast lane, with people honking at me!! Fuck could of killed myself!! I don't smoke oil in the car anymore

- A friend of mine made some isomerised oil, put three drops on a bowl, smoked it and began to go into convulsions. He swears he won't let anyone leave his house without cutting the oil, to make it less potent. He claims it "could" be near fatal to someone unexpecting, and a low tolerance.




Ide be more worried about someone falling off their bicycle in the bike lanes. Its not an issue with potency, you can buy some of the most potent cannabis and mushrooms available there. I think its more tradition than anything else. Hashish and Cannabis are a little more "natural" than oil ide say. If it was a liability issue they wouldnt be allowed to sell the cannabis or the hashish either. But god only knows. Ive only been to Amsterdam once in my life...


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Re: You can't sell butane hash oil in Amsterdam...... just too potent [Re: Irdamage]
    #6441453 - 01/09/07 01:50 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

It's illegal because of the potential for dangerous solvents to be inhaled from what I've heard.


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Re: You can't sell butane hash oil in Amsterdam...... just too potent [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #6441718 - 01/09/07 03:11 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Oil is illegal for the same reason that dry mushrooms are... you have to consume your substances in the most natural way possible in 'dam.


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Re: You can't sell butane hash oil in Amsterdam...... just too potent [Re: chris92346]
    #6442384 - 01/09/07 07:08 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

They must have really cracked down on things in The Netherlands since I was there last. I've bought mushrooms there on many many occasions and only once did I buy them fresh and that was just for novelty's sake.


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Re: You can't sell butane hash oil in Amsterdam...... just too potent [Re: Ekstaza]
    #6442997 - 01/09/07 10:06 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

So is this tru then?? I get mixed answers. I didn't know they can sell shrooms in amsterdam, is that true, or DID they used to? Does anyone live there? And thanks for all the feed back


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Re: You can't sell butane hash oil in Amsterdam...... just too potent [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6443021 - 01/09/07 10:09 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Kind of like weed is really illagel there. :rolleyes:


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Re: You can't sell butane hash oil in Amsterdam...... just too potent [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6443042 - 01/09/07 10:14 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

IrDamage: you said "Ide be more worried about someone falling off their bicycle in the bike lanes."

- I am sorry i didn't clarify, i was on highway 280 nicknamed the Bay area 'Autobahn" on my way to the Phil Lesh concert in San Francisco. It is a 4 lane freeway, i didn't see a single bicycle, or anyone falling off of one.

OK doesn't make it more safe, i agree, but i wouldn't be doing 90mph down a residential road with bike lane, high or sober. I also said in my second post "i don't smoke oil in the car anymore"


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Re: You can't sell butane hash oil in Amsterdam...... just too potent [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6443050 - 01/09/07 10:17 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Hash Oil since the 1970s has been Lijst 1 (Schedule 1) in Holland, but hash and weed are OK.

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I didn't know they can sell shrooms in amsterdam, is that true, or DID they used to?




Yup you can buy mushrooms in Amsterdam, either as a growkit or fresh mushrooms, but not dried ones.


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Re: You can't sell butane hash oil in Amsterdam...... just too potent [Re: Asante]
    #6443070 - 01/09/07 10:21 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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...... but not dried ones.



When did they make the change?

Or was the smart shop selling them to me illegally?

Just for a time reference, it's been over 6 years since I was there.


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Re: You can't sell butane hash oil in Amsterdam...... just too potent [Re: Ekstaza]
    #6443091 - 01/09/07 10:26 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

It probably happened in those 6 years :mad:

But the good thing is that fresh shrooms are OK as decided by a court of law, so its actually legal.


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Re: You can't sell butane hash oil in Amsterdam...... just too potent [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6443119 - 01/09/07 10:31 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

tobacco is legal here. But making an extract of nicotine, and purifying it would be illegal. There is less then 1.0mg of nicotine in a cigarette.

If you eat 1 gram of 100% nicotine extract it would be like smoking 1000 cigarettes all at once. Tobacco is a stimulant, and nicotine is one of the major "psychoactive constituents" of tobacco.

If you were to compare the stimulative effects of 100% pure nicotine extract to crack cocaine, the nicotine's effects would be far greater. The average dose of nicotine for a person is measured in milligrams, and fractions of milligrams.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/tobacco/tobacco_dose.shtml


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Re: You can't sell butane hash oil in Amsterdam...... just too potent [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6443154 - 01/09/07 10:37 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Ohh yea... My point being extracts are a much different creature then the originl plant form. You can't compare it quite the same.

Tobacco is legal here. I have heard rumors it is ilegal to grow, but i pretty sure thats a bunch of BS, at least here in California. However, i don't think that doing Nicotine extractions would be legal.


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Re: You can't sell butane hash oil in Amsterdam...... just too potent [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6444663 - 01/10/07 11:48 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

It's also illegal to sell weed/hash brownies and cakes.
There are a few hundred people in Amsterdam a year who get overwhelmed by the effects, and call an ambulance:)
I geuss the hash oil is illegal for the same reasons.


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Re: You can't sell butane hash oil in Amsterdam...... just too potent [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6444686 - 01/10/07 12:02 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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IrDamage: you said "Ide be more worried about someone falling off their bicycle in the bike lanes."

- I am sorry i didn't clarify, i was on highway 280 nicknamed the Bay area 'Autobahn" on my way to the Phil Lesh concert in San Francisco. It is a 4 lane freeway, i didn't see a single bicycle, or anyone falling off of one.

OK doesn't make it more safe, i agree, but i wouldn't be doing 90mph down a residential road with bike lane, high or sober. I also said in my second post "i don't smoke oil in the car anymore"




What are you talking about? I was reffering to Amsterdam, where the only people in the city who drive are those who HAVE to. Ie: tourist vehicles, delivery vehicles, and perhaps the ocasional driver going for an actual drive. The rest are usually people walking about or riding a bike in the bike lanes by the sidewalks.I dont know what that has to do with a 4 lane freeway in San Fran. Were talking about Amsterdam here. If you can point out a Freeway within a reasonable distance of Westerstraat and Prinsen Gracht, I can point out an idiot.


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Re: You can't sell butane hash oil in Amsterdam...... just too potent [Re: Irdamage]
    #6444687 - 01/10/07 12:03 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Ahhhh Prinsengracht...how I long to return to her!


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