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jccc
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Rye vs. WBS
#6433997 - 01/07/07 08:58 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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For bulk grow which do you prefer? opinions?
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Re: Rye vs. WBS [Re: jccc]
#6434017 - 01/07/07 09:06 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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it's a personal thing really but apparently Rye is cheaper
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jccc
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I choose rye also you dont have to take the extra step in getting sunflower seeds out
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Re: Rye vs. WBS [Re: jccc]
#6434041 - 01/07/07 09:16 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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I can find WBS cheaper and closer to me. I don't even really take out sunflower seeds I just take out floaters which might include a few sunflower seeds.
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jccc
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Re: Rye vs. WBS [Re: rawtoxic]
#6434047 - 01/07/07 09:19 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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definatly better than brf cakes!!!!!!!
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Re: Rye vs. WBS [Re: jccc]
#6434063 - 01/07/07 09:23 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Also WBS does serve as more bulk inoculation points due to its size.
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Re: Rye vs. WBS [Re: rawtoxic]
#6434072 - 01/07/07 09:25 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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I use a 75% rye 25% birdseed mix. I do these for the previously stated reason, WBS has more inoc points. I dunno if this is right or not but I believe rye has a higher N content so its good for the health of the mushies.
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Re: Rye vs. WBS [Re: jccc]
#6434095 - 01/07/07 09:28 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Keep in mind, unless you are using that Rye or WBS to make grain spawn, you are not doing a bulk grow. Its just grain. But if you use the myceliated grain to inoculate a bulk sub, then your are doing a bulk grow.
That being said, IME, WBS is better for bulk. I don't know about fruiting off Rye as I have never done that, in fact I haven't used it much for grain spawn either, WBS can be tricky sometimes when it gets sticky, but when you get it right, its a thing of beauty.
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Re: Rye vs. WBS [Re: tahoe]
#6434473 - 01/07/07 11:50 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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i like to switch it up sometimes, but overall i just use wbs, because its 8 dollars for 40 elbows at lowes hardware.
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Re: Rye vs. WBS [Re: odium33]
#6434689 - 01/07/07 01:35 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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WBS is alot cheaper than Rye. Rye is said to have more nutes, WBS is most convenient for spawn.
If you did a search u'd find too many results to read man. Rye is also said to contam more by sopme because of the texture of the grain.
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Re: Rye vs. WBS [Re: jccc]
#6434748 - 01/07/07 02:05 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Some people swear by rye, I've had best results with WBS. Rye takes more time to hydrate with a soak. WBS soaks up moisture quicker, care must be taken to make sure it's not over hydrated. WBS is around 8 dollars for 40 lbs. Rye is about 5 bucks for 40 lbs at the feed store.
Wild birds prefer WBS. Hasn't this topic been covered before?
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Re: Rye vs. WBS [Re: Rahz]
#6435906 - 01/07/07 07:01 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Rye hands down! Nutes are much more readily available because it's an open whole grain not a seed with a husk. I have done 100lbs of rye and switched to WBS which I've gone through hundreds of pounds doing bulk and there is a big difference I only switched to cut costs and yes yields did suffer.
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Re: Rye vs. WBS [Re: hyphae]
#6435998 - 01/07/07 07:21 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
hyphae said: Rye hands down! Nutes are much more readily available because it's an open whole grain not a seed with a husk. I have done 100lbs of rye and switched to WBS which I've gone through hundreds of pounds doing bulk and there is a big difference I only switched to cut costs and yes yields did suffer.
Me too,and I still always switch back to rye
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Re: Rye vs. WBS [Re: Blutjager]
#6436023 - 01/07/07 07:29 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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i have only gotten rye to work for me once or twice. I have contam problems with it.
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Quote:
Liquidkick said: i have only gotten rye to work for me once or twice. I have contam problems with it.
If its bacterial contamination you may want to try a longer soak so the endospores are "Awake" and get killed in the PC
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Re: Rye vs. WBS [Re: Blutjager]
#6437240 - 01/08/07 03:15 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've personally been using rye and the only contams I got were from a contam'd syringe. Just did 24 jars tonight and 24 are already colonizing, none contam.
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Re: Rye vs. WBS [Re: Jorsher]
#6437274 - 01/08/07 04:01 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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i use wbs but i totaly respect everyone who uses rye, if you can make it work for ya make it your bitch
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Re: Rye vs. WBS [Re: jccc]
#6437461 - 01/08/07 07:27 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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I haven't used rye, but I am currently using Hard red winter wheat and Spelt grains, so it should be similar.
I don't mind using either grains, but the rye type grains are a bit less messier.
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