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OfflineDemon
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The Genesis Factor by Yacov Rambsel
    #642703 - 05/24/02 05:58 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I just read this book, and it's amazing how convincing it is that "God" exists and the the bible was from divine inspiration.
For those of you who are unfimilier with this book, basiclly, the book is about the differnt mesages encoded in the Torah (Old Testement), in which God supposedly placed there pourpousley.
The way the author found these hidden messages and codes was, he went into the hebrew torah and he would start in say, Genesis, on a certain letter in a certain word, and he would, for exmaple, look at the second letter in every fifth word, and it would spell something out.
One of the things encoded in the torah was the speed of light. The author said that when the probability of this appering in the torah by chance is about .0004 in a billion. There's lots of other things in there too that also have a very extremley small chance of being in there by chance.
I think that just the that, and this isn't a hidden code, the fact that David kind of predicted the way Jesus would be killed in it's self is enough to convince me that the bible was written by God THROUGH man, let alone the codes that have supernaturally been placed in the Torah.
The Book is called "The Genesis Code", and it's author is Yacov Rambsel.
What do you all think about this?


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InvisiblePynchon
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Re: The Genesis Factor by Yacov Rambsel [Re: Demon]
    #642788 - 05/24/02 07:34 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

What do I think? The same thing I thought when you posted this last year:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Forum11&Number=371025&Forum=Forum11&Words=the%20genesis%20factor&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=370801&Search=true

PS. How do you calculate the probability of something appearing *after* the fact? If I was to walk down the street and see a car with the license plate number "LSD 25", is that somehow less likely than seeing one which read "3M TA3"? The fact that you can make sentences out of a given text according to certain rules suggests the possibility that sentences can be made out of a given text if you follow some arbitrary rule. Now that's tautology -- or as Richard Feynman put it: "You found the peculiarity, and so you selected the peculiar case."

See what I'm so drunkenly, artlessly getting at?


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Anonymous

Re: The Genesis Factor by Yacov Rambsel [Re: Demon]
    #642796 - 05/24/02 07:40 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

You can find simliar phenomena in the various tales of Winnie-the-Pooh.


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Re: The Genesis Factor by Yacov Rambsel [Re: Pynchon]
    #642880 - 05/24/02 08:34 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah man... I agree with what you're saying. Personally I don't believe in statistics. Something either happens or it doesn't. Something is what it is. Does that make sense?


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InvisibleSclorch
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Re: The Genesis Factor by Yacov Rambsel [Re: ]
    #643052 - 05/24/02 10:25 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Remember Pooh's "honey" problem?

That fucking bear was an addict. I think honey was really crack. I've never seen Pooh's level of fiending other than in crackheads. The donkey (Eyor?) was obviously a stoner. Tigger was all about speed. The rabbit snorted coke and drank a little on the side. The kangaroos were pretty sober usually. Piglet was just a dimwit.

Oh yeah, and the boy was always on acid.


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InvisibleSwami
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Re: The Genesis Factor by Yacov Rambsel [Re: Sclorch]
    #643769 - 05/24/02 07:00 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Was it blue honey that he had to have?


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InvisibleSwami
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Re: The Genesis Factor by Yacov Rambsel [Re: Demon]
    #643773 - 05/24/02 07:06 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I just read this book, and it's amazing how convincing it is that "God" exists and the the bible was from divine inspiration.
What is truly amazing is what people will swallow to try to shore up their beliefs. There are numerous papers and articles debunking this book as well as "The Bible Code". The debunkers are NOT just people slamming these works, but people who took them first at face value, then found that they could get the SAME results using War and Peace or any other large literary volume. There is nothing to this hypothesis.


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Re: The Genesis Factor by Yacov Rambsel [Re: Swami]
    #643776 - 05/24/02 07:14 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I DID get the same results from "The House At Pooh Corner," what's amazing is that it confirms Nostradamus' and Edgar Cayce's predictions about Atlantis.


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Offlinenugsarenice
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Re: The Genesis Factor by Yacov Rambsel [Re: ]
    #644219 - 05/25/02 02:37 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

The bible is a source of unlimited information about the past, for those hating what they do not understand they should open up as I have. My whole life I have'nt read the bible, because my parents dislike the religion. Lately I have met many people who have told me many things. One fact about the bible that is true is Noah's flood. This story has a folk legend in every culture. Making the bible a true source of information even if it is a tall tale. I plan to read the bible, the book of Josephius, and the Dead Sea Scrolls, whenever I have the chance. (this will take a long time)

The story about an ancient civilization advanced as ours is feasible and directly against all devil worshipping people of now, who belive in Darwinism which is a very old concept, still taught in Schools, which is most probraly false, all modern scientists disagree with this concept, and have more facts to disprove it, then prove it. Making the story of an advance civilization, using coding, and having the knowledge about the speed of light, quite possible.


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Anonymous

Re: The Genesis Factor by Yacov Rambsel [Re: nugsarenice]
    #644309 - 05/25/02 05:58 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

The bible is a source of unlimited information about the past...
It's hardly a source of unlimited information, it has a limited number of pages and a limited number of words. Perhaps you mean it is an unlimited source in that people can read into it anything they like and there seems to be an endless supply of gullible people being born.

The story about an ancient civilization advanced as ours is feasible
Do you consider the Stone Age civilization that gave us the old testament as advanced as ours?

... and directly against all devil worshipping people of now, who belive in Darwinism...
LOL. There are many people who think that evolution is a valid theory but I would think it's safe to say that most of them are not devil worshipers.

Darwinism which is a very old concept
Not quite as old as the creation myths in the bible.

... which is most probraly false
This is your opinion and is contradicted by the opinions of many others, better educated and specialists in the natural sciences.

... all modern scientists disagree with this concept
This is a lie.

Making the story of an advance civilization, using coding, and having the knowledge about the speed of light, quite possible.
Perhaps, you'd like to purchase the beautiful Alpine chalet time share that Swami's selling in Palestine...


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Offlinenugsarenice
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Re: The Genesis Factor by Yacov Rambsel [Re: ]
    #644509 - 05/25/02 10:06 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

yeah, your right man. Palestine is the shittiest place on earth, and they probraly read the bible too. I don't have time to go through all the points made in offense to Darwinism, or explain to you the people behind the myth of Darwinism. But i don't believe in it.


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Re: The Genesis Factor by Yacov Rambsel [Re: nugsarenice]
    #644512 - 05/25/02 10:08 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Also, do not read the devil worshipping bible, to get understanding about life. Noone reads it! Noone ever has, it is just there to keep people in check, from doing smart things.


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InvisibleClark
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Re: The Genesis Factor by Yacov Rambsel [Re: nugsarenice]
    #646554 - 05/26/02 05:53 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I'm afraid the gig is up. The following was uncovered among the personal papers of the deceased evolutionary biologist Stephen J. Gould:

Oh great and powerful Satan, lord of the hoary hosts of Heck, we thank thee for thy bountiful gifts of transitional fossils and Darwinian propaganda in our schools. We beseech you to pox the trailer homes of our enemies, and raiseth thier lot rents, even as ye leadeth thier children astray with the false teachings of evolution and humanism. And please renew Ally McBeal for another season. Amen.


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Re: The Genesis Factor by Yacov Rambsel [Re: nugsarenice]
    #646623 - 05/26/02 06:47 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Also, do not read the devil worshipping bible, to get understanding about life. Noone reads it! Noone ever has...

What bible are you referring to, The King James version? Perhaps you mean 'The Satanic Bible' by Anton Szandor Lavey. Actually, I've read quite a bit of both but it's been a few years.


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InvisibleClark
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Re: The Genesis Factor by Yacov Rambsel [Re: ]
    #646656 - 05/26/02 07:11 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: The Genesis Factor by Yacov Rambsel [Re: Clark]
    #646677 - 05/26/02 07:31 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I think I've seen that one as well.


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Re: The Genesis Factor by Yacov Rambsel [Re: ]
    #646766 - 05/26/02 08:57 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

YOu read the whole bible? You must be very smart. Is it a good read?


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Re: The Genesis Factor by Yacov Rambsel [Re: nugsarenice]
    #647146 - 05/27/02 06:22 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Reading comprehension: I stated, "I've read quite a bit of both." You do such things when you spend a lot of time in Catholic School and Catechism.

I placed in the 99th percentile in the results from the last standardized test that I took, but this may say more about the other test takers than it does about me.

I don't consider the bible "a good read," I don't like fiction very much.


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Re: The Genesis Factor by Yacov Rambsel [Re: Demon]
    #649517 - 05/28/02 12:29 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Nugs, I hope you get better.
About the refutation of Darwinism. The fact is it is NOT in dispute in the scientific community. It is only in dispute in the religious community. They, the religious community, have twisted, yet again, the meaning of the verses of the bible to include the wonderful theory of ID; intellegent design.
I applaued you for reading the bilbe; but you should take a couple of years and study. You find something "neat" and then make broad sweeping statements.
If any body has ever read a post by me you know my thoughts on the "invisible man" theory. If I have children I will insist that they read as many religious texts as possible, as well as leaning philosohphy, art, music, theater, history, politics, the ability to think for themselves and science(s) , mathmatics. It is not in me to raise a child in MY strict belief system. I would prefer a child that made decisions for themselves, be that in conclusion to my beliefs or in rational opposition.
Speak your mind Nugs, just don't take anything at face value. The bible, while an interesting work, is nonetheless a work of fiction.


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