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treatment for opiate addiction.
    #6401989 - 12/24/06 01:29 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

i was just curious what most doctors do in a case of opiate addiction.. i thought i had mine pretty well in check however i find myself down at my dads house looking for pills more and more often... however rehab is completely out of the question.

any advice would be great.


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Re: treatment for opiate addiction. [Re: Banez]
    #6401998 - 12/24/06 01:33 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I think most doctors will try to refer you to a treatment center, or perhaps detox if the withdrawal is severe enough. I doubt that they would give you any scripts for the withdrawal. If they did, it probably wouldn't be anything with any recreational value. Maybe just a sleep aid. I can't say for sure what all doctors would do though.

The detox I went to was great. They gave me some soboxone for the pain, which worked great. The people in there were pretty cool, I got to eat for free, free drugs for withdrawal, and a nice bed.

I also lied about how much dope I was doing. I said like 3x more than what I really was so they thought I had an even worse tolerance, which made them give me a way higher dose of subutrex/soboxone than they would have. I was really fucked up for the first few days from the really big dose they had me on, but they tapered it down to nothing over like 8 days.


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Re: treatment for opiate addiction. [Re: eris]
    #6402051 - 12/24/06 01:55 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

yeah the last 3 days ive spent fucked up on hydrocodon.. and my intake was like 30mg every... 4-5 hours.. last night was the worst.


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Re: treatment for opiate addiction. [Re: Banez]
    #6402055 - 12/24/06 01:56 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

im thinking this valium might be helpful.. i know that usually helps me sleep.. i have 3-4 days worth of that... and will prolly get some more after new years.


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Re: treatment for opiate addiction. [Re: Banez]
    #6402182 - 12/24/06 02:49 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, benzos are useful. They even give those out at detoxes for less severe cases. That would probably be the best bet, since stuff like soboxone/subutrex and methadone are stronger opiates than hydrocodone anyway, so it would defeat the purpose.

They gave the same people a bunch of other pills too, which basically just knocks them out for days. How bad is the withdrawal though when you stop using the hydrocodone? Do you get bad physical symptoms?
I never got addicted through that or any of the pills. I was doing straight H for like every day for a long time to get addicted.


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Re: treatment for opiate addiction. [Re: eris]
    #6402264 - 12/24/06 03:26 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

right now its just my jaw.. like clinched.. shakes a bit.. withdrawl prolly hasnt set in yet, since i just took 50mgs between 2-5am.


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Re: treatment for opiate addiction. [Re: Banez]
    #6403998 - 12/28/06 05:19 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

my benzo experiment worked great... nearly no withdrawl... and little urge to use again.


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Re: treatment for opiate addiction. [Re: Banez]
    #6405567 - 12/28/06 03:34 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Naltrexone is an opiate receptor antagonist. It can prevent you from getting high off opiates for upto 72 hours.

Dextromethorphan is reputed to reduce withdrawal symptoms. There have been controlled studies done on this, but I don't think they were done in humans (I'm not sure).

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Re: treatment for opiate addiction. [Re: Banez]
    #6406300 - 12/28/06 08:06 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I would say man up, grab ur ballz and tell yourself NO!

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Re: treatment for opiate addiction. [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #6407108 - 12/29/06 02:52 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: treatment for opiate addiction. [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #6409787 - 12/30/06 02:40 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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I would say man up, grab ur ballz and tell yourself NO!




Well, it's okay just this once.  NEXT TIME, I'll man up and say no.

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Re: treatment for opiate addiction. [Re: Chemiker]
    #6409814 - 12/30/06 03:05 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

yeah it only it was that easy..

ive been clean for almost a week now... althou i will be stocking back up here in a couple days...


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Re: treatment for opiate addiction. [Re: Banez]
    #6410611 - 12/30/06 01:46 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

This time just don't take it too many days in a row. Give yourself enough of a break between binges to where you won't get any physical symptoms. That's what I do now.


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Re: treatment for opiate addiction. [Re: Chemiker]
    #6413069 - 12/31/06 10:18 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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Naltrexone is an opiate receptor antagonist. It can prevent you from getting high off opiates for upto 72 hours.

Dextromethorphan is reputed to reduce withdrawal symptoms. There have been controlled studies done on this, but I don't think they were done in humans (I'm not sure).




DON'T take naltrexone if you are dependent, it will send you instantly into severe withdrawal. I've heard of DXM helping, and NMDA antagonists in general. Also you can take loperamide (OTC immodium) which is a mu-opioid agonist that doesn't cross the blood brain barrier, it helps to some degree at least.


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Re: treatment for opiate addiction. [Re: omnicrap]
    #6413157 - 12/31/06 11:03 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

ibogaine or ayahuasca is worth a shot if youve got the resources

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Re: treatment for opiate addiction. [Re: omnicrap]
    #6415120 - 01/01/07 08:22 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

thats odd, someone was actually talking about that tonight.

ive been good since my 3 days of valium, im swearing by that method for withdrawl symptoms.


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Re: treatment for opiate addiction. [Re: Banez]
    #6415945 - 01/01/07 04:40 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I think ibogaine also shows NMDA antagonist activity. Not entirely sure though.

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Re: treatment for opiate addiction. [Re: Banez]
    #6418500 - 01/02/07 02:28 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I would look into Kratom to help you ease off your opiate addiction.

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Re: treatment for opiate addiction. [Re: eris]
    #6418540 - 01/02/07 02:38 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

do you find that once you've gained a sky-high dope tolerance, it pretty much stays around even if you go a few weeks without using? irritating..


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