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Thoughts on a everlasting cake??
    #637844 - 05/20/02 01:53 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

I have used the big blue jack in the box straws to rehydrate the cakes. I was wondering if I made a solution that is BRF(Brown rice flour) and water, Will it not only rehydrate the cakes but resupply them w/ nutrients and make them flush more?? Any comments would be appreciated.....


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Re: PLEASE READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: MushroomBoy123]
    #637856 - 05/20/02 02:03 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

don't add brf to your water. just use plain old water.


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Re: PLEASE READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #637888 - 05/20/02 02:30 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

I already know what the results of plain water is, I was just brainstorming a way to resupply the cakes w/ nutrients, please post suggestions or thoughts about my idea...


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Re: Thoughts on a everlasting cake?? [Re: MushroomBoy123]
    #637940 - 05/20/02 03:31 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

By using nutrients in the water in the straws you're promoting contamination growth inside the straw and thus inside your cake. Maybe adding H2O2 would help. I never tried this but the word from most experienced folks (which probably tried that already) is that it's more productive and efficient to use new substrate. However you can try and post your results

Good Luck! Hope your cakes have the chance enjoy the experience of immortality...


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Re: Thoughts on a everlasting cake?? [Re: MushroomBoy123]
    #637961 - 05/20/02 03:53 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

I hear some people dunk cakes in milk to feed them with extra nutrients....not shure of how this works tho.


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Re: Thoughts on a everlasting cake?? [Re: MushroomBoy123]
    #637975 - 05/20/02 04:10 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

i've got a tray of cakes right now that i've lost track on what flush they are. i know for sure they've gone past 6th flush.
but i don't recommend the brf water 'cause the brf will start to forment. then you end up with rice wine. i don't think the mushrooms would like rice wine.
the same happens when you forget to sterilize your cakes within 2-3 days. it smells exactly like rice wine when you crack the jars open.


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Re: Thoughts on a everlasting cake?? [Re: girlskater]
    #637979 - 05/20/02 04:16 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

girlskater, what would you use besides brown rice flour?


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Re: Thoughts on a everlasting cake?? [Re: MushroomBoy123]
    #637986 - 05/20/02 04:24 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Ive seen cakes make 5 flushes before the shrooms jsut abort halfway thru (so i guess 5.5 flushes)


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Re: Thoughts on a everlasting cake?? [Re: Sterile]
    #638710 - 05/21/02 06:37 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

i've dunked in skim milk [reconstituted nonfat dry recommended] with success. they must be refridgerated during the dunk, and rinsed off good before returning to terrarium. i recently began following up the milk dunk with a 5-10 minute dip in a very dilute[no more than 1 part bleach per 100 water] bleach water solution to sterilize the cake surface, and they are now fruiting nicely, no sign of any contams 4 days later.


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Re: Thoughts on a everlasting cake?? [Re: MushroomBoy123]
    #638747 - 05/21/02 07:44 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Sweet!!


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Re: Thoughts on a everlasting cake?? [Re: MushroomBoy123]
    #638767 - 05/21/02 08:07 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

check for this-

they make these crytals of flax seed -it will come in crystal form-inn a blue bag-

should be found at an organic food store beside the flax seed meal in a cooler-this would probably work,sice the crystals will disolve nicely in water-shouldnt have contam problems either


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Re: Thoughts on a everlasting cake?? [Re: GaNjAShRooM]
    #638770 - 05/21/02 08:10 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

also powered milk works really good-

just add it to your water-its loaded with nutrients-and it wont spoil-milk will spoil ,so be very careful


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Re: Thoughts on a everlasting cake?? [Re: Hippie3]
    #638931 - 05/21/02 10:05 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Very interesting, hmmm....
i was wondering......if....hmmm since you are the cake master could you give me a total flush record on pf cakes?
Just curious...
Thanx in advance!


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Re: Thoughts on a everlasting cake?? [Re: Sterile]
    #639695 - 05/21/02 09:54 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

This is all very interesting.......


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Re: Thoughts on a everlasting cake?? [Re: Sterile]
    #639833 - 05/22/02 03:04 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

in truth, i rarely bother with them after 3rd flush, there's just not much left,
but i have gotten 5 flushes a few times.


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Re: Thoughts on a everlasting cake?? [Re: GaNjAShRooM]
    #639836 - 05/22/02 03:07 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

sad, but it will spoil as is.
my next series of planned experiments i'm going to try straw-feeding a milk-bleach solution, the 1 part bleach to 100 milk hopefully will prevent spoilage while the cake absorbs milk thru the straw, dunno if it will work yet but that's the plan.


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Re: Thoughts on a everlasting cake?? [Re: Hippie3]
    #640272 - 05/22/02 10:51 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Thanx hip!


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Re: Thoughts on a everlasting cake?? [Re: Sterile]
    #640412 - 05/22/02 12:46 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

GaNjAShRooM thats a good idea.


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Re: Thoughts on a everlasting cake?? [Re: Hippie3]
    #640659 - 05/22/02 05:09 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

I'm with Hippie on this one.

I never go after a 4th or 5th flush.

My first 3 flushes are so large they eat up almost all the nutrients in the cake.

Just start new cakes...more often.


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Re: Thoughts on a everlasting cake?? [Re: Roadkill]
    #640745 - 05/22/02 06:25 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

these are ALL good tips.


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