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 phrozendata
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 Re: New Vendors....fakes  [Re: ]
#647875 - 05/27/02 12:16 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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Heya box,
I dont want to take any sides here so dont take this as one but I just have to say that ralphs print methods looks great. I often print like this and usually just whipe the exposed foil down with some rubbing alcohol before I fold them up...not a problem...and anyways the exposed foil never comes close to the print so it shouldn't be a problem...hell I even make syringes in open air and never have problems. Keep it clean and it doesnt get dirty!
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 nugsarenice
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Re: New Vendors....fakes [Re: phrozendata]
#648165 - 05/27/02 02:53 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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That looks like a good technique, I would just flip the jars over, withoug letting the foil be loose from the top of the jar, and then cut a whole real quick over the print, let it fall into the jar, and seal it quick. and then you have a print, and resevoir ready for use.
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Re: New Vendors....fakes [Re: phrozendata]
#648269 - 05/27/02 03:54 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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That's the old method. The new method is much better where you make the prints in a sealed sterile container with filters for contam free air flow. It's like basically making them in a filtered glovebox.
Also, the further away you can keep spores from alcohol the better.
But Phrozendata, as you point out it's not difficult to make clean prints so why is Ralph claiming there's going to be contam issues if one doesn't buy his spores?
Isn't this insulting everybody who sent him prints for the FSR?
I just don't appreciate him blaming every problem in his life on the "new" vendors. It's just not right.
-Boxtop
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UrbanistiC
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Registered: 02/03/02
Posts: 262
Loc: Seattle, Wa.
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Re: New Vendors....fakes [Re: windex]
#648346 - 05/27/02 04:39 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ralphster!!
I feel you man. I have recieved a spore print from you. And I am going to keep my end of the bargain. I dont blame you for feeling like that. I think somewhere, some how, people forgot that FSR means FREE SPORE RING. And people taking advantage of this, its really lame. I would say, only send out one print at a time, then wait for a print to come back before you send another, but its just not realistic to maintain a database of addresses, especially when there is the threat of privacy intrusion. Ralph, if it wasnt for you, a lot of people wouldnt have gotten the chance to dive into the experiece of myco-cultivation without supporting a rip-off vendor. I think its time for someone to provide syringes at a super cut-throat price, like maybe 5 bucks. And let these rip-off vendors choke for a while. I sympathize with you greatly Ralph. But don't forget the obvious....
You provided a service that a lot of people appreciated .
And you did it all yourself for the benefit of others.
You are a rad person for that.
I would hate to see the FSR go down!
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Keep it ReaL.
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Re: New Vendors....fakes [Re: UrbanistiC]
#648352 - 05/27/02 04:43 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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In reply to:
I think its time for someone to provide syringes at a super cut-throat price, like maybe 5 bucks.
This is exactly why Ralph said he was stopping the FSR. 
Btw, Teonan is now running the FSR so it is still around.
-Boxtop
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XAZIA
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Registered: 08/22/01
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 Re: New Vendors....fakes [Re: ]
#649626 - 05/28/02 11:48 AM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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ackkkkk!!! 
my head throbs even reading this thread!
boxtop, i can't believe you go there! come on now! we all have had contamination problems from time to time, no matter the reason, i would say you have to agree, right?
i have had only had experience with 3 vendors, pf, ralph and boxtop.
this forum is quickly turning into big mudslinging contest. who can dump the most shit on the other guy wins. no wonder ralph is leaving. i have ben posting much less around here beacuse of all the silly ass games played on these boards. not that i claim that i matter or my presence will be missed but i think i am going to concetrate on cultivating and leave you kids to your games
sad...very sad
peace!
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Edited by XAZIA (05/28/02 11:51 AM)
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ralphster44
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Registered: 01/03/01
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 Re: New Vendors....fakes [Re: ]
#649773 - 05/28/02 02:03 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: New Vendors....fakes [Re: ralphster44]
#649825 - 05/28/02 03:03 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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No Ralph, you don't name names, you just paint a broad brush and call everybody "fakes" and "fuckers". That's real cool Ralph.
Btw, I think if you read my post you will see the only name I mentioned was yours. Someone had to call you out on your hypocritical lies.
I PM'd you the same day you went on your drunk tirade, no response.
You want to assert every new vendor is a "fucker" and a "fake"?, expect people to get pissed!
My suppliers blow you away Ralph, plain and simple.
You're also an idiot for constantly proclaiming you cultivate.That's just plain stupid.
-Boxtop
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feito
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Registered: 03/06/02
Posts: 75
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Re: New Vendors....fakes [Re: ralphster44]
#649925 - 05/28/02 04:27 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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Dont worry about it too much Ralph.
I think its kind of funny when people get MY prints from vendors I never sent them to.
Now you know why I do not visit here often.
The best cultivators post the least....
0 is best.
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oscill8
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Registered: 02/26/01
Posts: 1,215
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 Re: New Vendors....fakes [Re: Yachaj]
#649993 - 05/28/02 05:03 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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yachaj- anno had no financial incentive to writing the basic cult part of the faq (aka pf methods) because i wrote it (the part in question). i had no financial incentive to do so- i am not employed by, have never received monies from, or know any vendor listed in the faq personally (nor anything from this site, either). i did it because it was requested to be done by this community.
the author of the technique (pf method) was listed in the faq as the originator- given full credit happily. but the cult questions being answered about the pf tek have nothing to do with "who to buy spores from," an altogether different topic.
i would also like to say that its not true that most ideas in the faq are taken out of the pf tek- they are an explanation and a working around of the pf method. they assume the reader has read the pf tek, and answer hypothetical questions accordingly. i thought that knowing the reasoning (and simple science) behind some of the major steps could be laid out, and therefore understood better, and therefore be carried out more effieciently. (and because the reasoning was often the subject of duplicate postings in the mush cult forum, since pf gives no rhyme or reason behind his instructions, or not enuf.)
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artemis
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Re: New Vendors....fakes [Re: ]
#650033 - 05/28/02 05:28 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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Boxtop I just have to ask, Does the little girls pussy hurt? Because you sure do whine alot. Whine, whine, whine....Man that gets boring. Exposing contacts,business partners, fellow customers is not acceptable in this hobby. So, do not ask anyone to do it. If you had enough common sense, you would not have even asked. Silly boy!!!!
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Anonymous
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Re: New Vendors....fakes [Re: artemis]
#650046 - 05/28/02 05:36 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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Who did I expose?
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Anonymous
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Re: New Vendors....fakes [Re: ]
#650060 - 05/28/02 05:45 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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If Ralph is going to insult every new vendor that arises than the other vendors have the right to respond in kind.
Ralph is the one that's whining not me.
Btw, he still has yet to explain how the new vendors are the cause of him stopping the FSR.
Teonan is running it now.
If Teonan can run it, why couldn't Ralph?
-Boxtop
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Jammer
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Re: New Vendors....fakes [Re: ]
#650069 - 05/28/02 05:49 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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RE: "You're also an idiot for constantly proclaiming you cultivate.That's just plain stupid."
I have the ut-most respect for Ralph! Having said that and depending on the laws where Ralph lives - please- nobody post any vendors location (no asumption should be made on a mailing address) here unless the vendor freely tells the pulblic, ok? - Otherwise, I tend to strongly agree with you here BoxTop. Cultivation off the "magic" is ileagle in many countrys obviolsy.
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Edited by Jammer (05/28/02 05:50 PM)
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artemis
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Re: New Vendors....fakes [Re: ]
#650091 - 05/28/02 06:06 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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I didn't say you exposed anyone. I just said you should know better than to ask someone to do so. If you didn't know before you posted that silly question maybe you know now. If you have not already noticed, people get touchy around here when thigns like that come up. There is an understood culture of secrecy around here. No, you did not expose anyone,but you asked. That is just not cool.
I don't really care who is whining the most.I'll have to get my whinning gauge meter to see who wins out.
Having said that, if you had not jumped in to both of these threads(ie one here and one at the FF) I would never had know who Ralph was referring to. I still don't know for sure. I'm going on the assumption that you are the one he is refering to because you jumped in and said you were.Maybe you know he is taking about you, but most of us had no clue.
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Anonymous
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Re: New Vendors....fakes [Re: artemis]
#650098 - 05/28/02 06:09 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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In reply to:
No, you did not expose anyone,but you asked.
Can you please explain what exactly I asked?
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artemis
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Re: New Vendors....fakes [Re: ]
#650127 - 05/28/02 06:27 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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I just looked back and I was wrong.The truth is you did not ask a thing. It actually smells more like a threat.
In reply to:
I could post a list of names that you contacted to buy their spores."
I'm sure those people would just love to have their names posted. Maybe they would not mind. Point being is unprofessional. If you dont' understand the sensitivity involved in these matter then nothing I say will help......Someone who is selling spores should have full understanding of the issues involved here. I shouldn't have to explain to you why this is inappropriate.
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Anonymous
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Re: New Vendors....fakes [Re: artemis]
#650134 - 05/28/02 06:28 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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Whatever Artemis. I was responding to Ralph, that's all. Trying to make it more than it is, is just not right.
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Anonymous
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Re: New Vendors....fakes [Re: ]
#650137 - 05/28/02 06:29 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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Because Teonan isn't gonna be sending out any prints that weren't sent in. The rules have changed drastically. This is not gonna be the GET FREE SPORES FOREVER RING. It is a one time print, for newbies to get some free time to hang out here, to SEE WHO IS WHO and WHAT IS WHAT. They will hopefully be in a position to make a slighly more informed decision on who to buy from, who to trade with, and who to just plain ignore.
It will hopefully prevent anyone from spending 80 dollars on a print or syringe that they can get for much less.
The NEW FSR is not a alternative to Vendor purchasing or member exchanging. It is a neccessary evil, that must be continued to give every new member here, and at the FF, a REASON to forget all the SHIT that must be waded through, and the neccessary time to SEE THE LIGHT. It gives the newbie a chance to do some serious reading. Most of all, it gives them that ONE thing that might keep them around after being subjected to all the FLAMES, TROLLING, and downright unfriendliness that can be rampant throughout the OMC.
In the words of a BEATEN DOWN BLACK MAN "Can't we all just get along". LOL
That will be the day.
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Anonymous
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Re: New Vendors....fakes [Re: ]
#650142 - 05/28/02 06:34 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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Teonan, I'm confident you are the right person to run the show.
I think it's best that it's not in the hands of a vendor and I think you're gonna do great things with the FSR.
-Boxtop
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