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OfflineWakeboardrB
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Re: Help Me With a Myth Bust [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #6395772 - 12/22/06 12:20 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Penguarky Tunguin said:
Mushrooms that don't grow to full fruition.  They abort.  Really small and supposedly have more psilocybin in a small surface area.  not sure if it's proven, but my abort trips have been unsane.




My friend has a 7 gram bag of pure aborts that we picked out of a qp of mushrooms. None of them are any larger than the very tip of my pinky. There must be almost 1000 in there.

I'm going to bug him to break them out this weekend. :smile: Last time I ate .2g of just the aborts and got about the same level trip as I normally would from 1 - 1.2g of full size cubensis.

I'll see if I can grab a picture of it tonight. :smile:





Sorry to quote my own post....

He wouldn't let me take a picture of the aborts (of which he only has 1/8th left).... because he also has a sheet of windowpayne blotter... :smile:


I can't wait till tomorrow :crazy2:


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Re: Help Me With a Myth Bust [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #6395809 - 12/22/06 12:48 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

You are starting to sound like bs. We need pics. Not alot of pics. Just 1 or 2 will do. Come on! Don't drag us around!


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Re: Help Me With a Myth Bust [Re: blissedout]
    #6395942 - 12/22/06 02:40 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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St._Nick said:
You are starting to sound like bs. We need pics. Not alot of pics. Just 1 or 2 will do. Come on! Don't drag us around!




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Re: Help Me With a Myth Bust [Re: TurdFerguson]
    #6395982 - 12/22/06 03:17 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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DickDiver said:
Heya guys.  I've got a friend who has been telling me (and apparently many of my friends believe this) lately that mushroom caps are more potent than the stems, and that buying a bag of just caps is more expensive than buying stems for this reason.  It's always been my understanding that this is just not true, and that psylocibin/psylocin content is equal in stems and caps.

I just need some documented proof, either scientific or just testimony that sounds valid (like a post or essay) from someone credible, as to whether this is true or not.  Like someone who has been growing for a while and can definitively state the reason why this is true.  Just wanted to make sure one way or the other!

Thanks in advance for anyone that can help. :grin:

Much love,

DD





Is your friend in high school?  Because I heard the bottom-left corner of a tab of acid is far more potent than the rest of the blotter.  That's why a sheet of all bottom-left corners cost far more than a sheet of whole tabs.


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Re: Help Me With a Myth Bust [Re: GnuBobo]
    #6395991 - 12/22/06 03:22 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Its true dammit!! Those corners collect the run-off!


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Re: Help Me With a Myth Bust [Re: TurdFerguson]
    #6396011 - 12/22/06 03:33 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I hate being ripped off by acid and shroom heads. They're terribly violent, you have to go to the dodgy part of town--you never know what's going to happen.

Maybe you get home without being shot, and sometimes all you get is a bag full of dried banana peels and maybe a few stems for the smell. JUST STAY AWAY FROM PSYCHEDELIC DEALERS--they're dirty, selfish, and unfailingly underhanded.

You could try to do it yourself, but, then again, that takes a giant warehouse and a sophisticated hydroponic set-up and that brings all sorts of other problems. I'm sure you understand--it's just not worth your time.


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Re: Help Me With a Myth Bust [Re: GnuBobo]
    #6396152 - 12/22/06 07:25 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Psychedelic dealers definitely aren't all dirty, selfish, and underhanded... Maybe you should stop looking in the dodgy part of town? Buying any drugs down there is risky, they were probably actually crack dealers or something who just saw a psychedelics user as an easy target. Most people I know who actually use shrooms or acid aren't really violent at all.


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Re: Help Me With a Myth Bust [Re: Wysefool]
    #6396390 - 12/22/06 09:23 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Wysefool said:
Psychedelic dealers definitely aren't all dirty, selfish, and underhanded... Maybe you should stop looking in the dodgy part of town? Buying any drugs down there is risky, they were probably actually crack dealers or something who just saw a psychedelics user as an easy target. Most people I know who actually use shrooms or acid aren't really violent at all.




I think he was being sarcastic...


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Re: Help Me With a Myth Bust [Re: chickenmaster]
    #6396449 - 12/22/06 09:52 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I guess I didn't fully read the last part, it's true that if you go downtown or whatever to buy drugs some of the dealers are hard to deal with.


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Re: Help Me With a Myth Bust [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #6396749 - 12/22/06 11:47 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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I prefer stems actually, aborts if I have the option.




i prefer stems too. caps have a tendency to make me gag more during ingestion. i get just as fucked up on all stems, IMO.


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Re: Help Me With a Myth Bust [Re: a2ndopinion]
    #6396792 - 12/22/06 12:09 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

There is no way that stems and caps have 30% difference. I use to ponder this question all the time when eating. I have eaten all caps and all stems from the batch and they were equal potency. The is very very little difference. 30% is alot to notice btw. If that were the case you 1.2g dry (caps) would be as potent as 1.75g dry (stems). That is a noticable difference if your not a cutlivator or buy by the 1/8. You can trip just as hard on equal amount stems.

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Re: Help Me With a Myth Bust [Re: DadeMurphy]
    #6396992 - 12/22/06 01:11 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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I thought this was BS too, but apparently the 30% thing is correct:
http://www.shroomery.org/8755/Do-caps-or-stems-contain-more-psilocybin-psilocin



I'm by no means a statistics expert, but I checked the link and the article by Tsujikawa et al and I do notice that no hypothesis on differences in alkaloid content between the stems and the caps was formulated nor tested. The 'conclusions' on the caps/stems-difference drawn from the ridiculously small sample can in no way be trusted, nor do I think the study was ever intended to investigate such a difference.

In short: that nifty little table just tells us jack shit.

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Re: Help Me With a Myth Bust [Re: koraks]
    #6397021 - 12/22/06 01:26 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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because he also has a sheet of windowpayne blotter...




windowpane refers to gelatin hits of LSD, not blotter.

Another way to look at this whole situation is the dry weight of a stem vs the dry weight of a cap. In comparison 3 gs of stems may hold a smaller alkaloid content then 3 gs of caps simply because it takes more caps to compose the 3 grams then it would take stems.


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Re: Help Me With a Myth Bust [Re: coda]
    #6397497 - 12/22/06 05:00 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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coda said:
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because he also has a sheet of windowpayne blotter...




windowpane refers to gelatin hits of LSD, not blotter.






Sorry, I was drunk last night.

It was light amber windowpane. Really nice looking too.


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Re: Help Me With a Myth Bust [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #6397601 - 12/22/06 05:57 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I read the numbers but I highly doubt it's 100% correct. I am going off pure experience and have found no noticable variation to stems. If they were weak so were the caps.

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