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wideweb
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Waste materials
#6370297 - 12/14/06 12:51 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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I am looking for recipes of substrates from people who have successful experience cultivating Grifola frondosa (Hen of Woods, Maitake) and hypsizygus marmoreus (Bunashimeji) on waste materials. The last thing I want to use is wood chips.
Any good experience?
Thanks.
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falcon
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Re: Waste materials [Re: wideweb]
#6372210 - 12/14/06 10:10 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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I like playing with Hypsizygus, it is as easy to grow as any of the oysters. I have grown Hypsizygus tessulatus on soaked cardboard inoculated with grain spawn. Once the cardboard is fully colonized it was buried, not a lot of fruits but nice large ones.
It will also fruit on pasteurized straw.
Phillips farms a large commercial producer of gourmet mushrooms grows their Beech mushroom on supplemented corn cobs. I think Hypsizygus marmoreus will grow on just about any supplemented cellulose source if it has been sterilized.
What kinds of things were you thinking of using as substrates?
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Hotnuts
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Re: Waste materials [Re: falcon]
#6372249 - 12/14/06 10:28 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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I know newspapers work excellent for Oyster's, but that's about all I can offer as far as waste products to be used. I used oak dust for Maitake.
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falcon
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Re: Waste materials [Re: Hotnuts]
#6372351 - 12/14/06 10:58 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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I used oak dust for Maitake.
Did you supplement?
How well did it work?
What was the source of the oak dust?
I can sometimes get some oak dust from a guy that refinishes floors, when he puts in a new floor.
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Hotnuts
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Re: Waste materials [Re: falcon]
#6372371 - 12/14/06 11:06 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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No supplements, just grain spawn. Just Oak dust from a floor guy as well. I don't know the type of Oak, but it was Oak. It worked rather well. It was my first edible growing attempt also.
Edited by Hotnuts (12/14/06 11:07 PM)
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falcon
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Re: Waste materials [Re: Hotnuts]
#6372376 - 12/14/06 11:08 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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wideweb
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Re: Waste materials [Re: falcon]
#6372535 - 12/14/06 11:58 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Please, I am only interested in waste materials. There is no wood in my country. Also, Hypsizygus is not really Pleurotus. Any good experience?
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falcon
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Re: Waste materials [Re: wideweb]
#6374645 - 12/15/06 04:39 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Phillips farm grows Hypsizygus tessulatus on ground corn cobs supplemented with some grain in polypropylene bottles.
I didn't mean to say that Hypsizygus is an oyster. I meant to say it is as easy to grow as an oyster is. Both Hypsizygus and oyster mushrooms don't contaminate easily.
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newearthmushroom
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Re: Waste materials [Re: falcon]
#6375756 - 12/15/06 11:56 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have done realy well with blue oyster on cornstalks/cobs/corn. I just mowed them into mulch and pasturized. Had a bit of trouble with contam but still got high yealds.
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I was scraping wallpaper at my old house when I realized that the old paste was starch based, I decided to try a spray and scrape inoc. I sprayed the walls with a bleach solution to pasturize the paper. Then I dumped a bottle of cube LC into the sprayer with fresh water. By the time I got done scaping the entire room (took 3 days) I could already see myc growing in the damp paper waste. I stuffed all the paper into garbage bags and left the tops folded over. They were run through with myc in 2 weeks.
I did not get to fruit because this was at the onset of summer and I had nowhere to fruit them. They eventualy dried up in my front yard.
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mattymonkey
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Re: Waste materials [Re: wideweb]
#6391829 - 12/20/06 07:59 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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no wood in your country? i would suggest going out and seeing what the local varieties of mushrooms are. if there is any plant life at all there will be mushrooms. perhaps a good cultivatable?
what is already present that is going to waste? is it a very urban area? there may be tons of waste paper material and coffee grounds.. as for maitake.. maybe call some flooring places?
you can buy wood pellet fuel bagged at some hardware stores, and its pretty affordable. you can even get hardwood stuff. thay may work if you have nothing else..
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H. ulmarium will grow on coir. You might try that with your H marmoreu if you have access to coconut waste. RR
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Quote:
mattymonkey said: no wood in your country? i would suggest going out and seeing what the local varieties of mushrooms are. if there is any plant life at all there will be mushrooms. perhaps a good cultivatable?
what is already present that is going to waste? is it a very urban area? there may be tons of waste paper material and coffee grounds.. as for maitake.. maybe call some flooring places?
you can buy wood pellet fuel bagged at some hardware stores, and its pretty affordable. you can even get hardwood stuff. thay may work if you have nothing else..
Excellent advice. I use the hardwood pellet stuff as sawdust spawn for shiitake, which is then spawned into sterilized alder sawdust/woodchip blocks.
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