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1st timer cambodian grow
    #6391718 - 12/20/06 07:28 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

ok this is my friends 1st ever time growing mushrooms! he is using pf tek and did 10 halfpint wide mouth jars. sterilized in a pot for a hour. he followed the pf tek booklet perfectly. here is 4 days after inoculation and the incubator is 78 degrees.
what do u think? so far knock on shrooms there is no contams visible!
heres the pix!
cambo 4 days


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6391754 - 12/20/06 07:38 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Looks good so far. How many CC's per jar? How many holes in your lids?

You can take that foil off the lid and let'er breath.

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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: ethnoeste]
    #6391796 - 12/20/06 07:50 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

1 cc per jar 4 holes in each lid. tried to get .25 cc's a hole. just wondered if he took foil off if the contams could get in. but u answered that i guess lol he doesn't have any tapre over the holes tho? is that ok? doens't have anything covering the holes but has a dry verm layer. thnx for the reply. keep u posted. he said not all jars have 4 grow points tho. some have 3 and one has only 1? but for the 1st time not all bad! just maybe human error.
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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6391828 - 12/20/06 07:59 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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1 cc per jar 4 holes in each lid. tried to get .25 cc's a hole. just wondered if he took foil off if the contams could get in. but u answered that i guess lol he doesn't have any tapre over the holes tho? is that ok? doens't have anything covering the holes but has a dry verm layer. thnx for the reply. keep u posted. he said not all jars have 4 grow points tho. some have 3 and one has only 1? but for the 1st time not all bad! just maybe human error.
heres a few more pix.

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The dry verm layer is protection enough against contams.

Feel free to add holes to the lid with only 1 hole. It's good for those jars to breath. I've taken lids off jars to make larger holes for LC syringes, and had no contams. Verm will create a barrier layer.

Foil can come off.

Keep tape off the holes unless it's a breathable micropore tape (i.e. Nexcare by 3M - Pharamcy buy).

Cambos are quick colonizers, and fun fruit.

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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: ethnoeste]
    #6392167 - 12/20/06 09:18 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

thnx


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6392325 - 12/20/06 10:04 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Cambodian is one great strain, your going to love it!


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: d4a2n0k]
    #6392355 - 12/20/06 10:10 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

thnx my friend just got to get them to grow mushrooms 1st. haha
a question for u guys to make sure i have this right? once the jar colonizes full u put it in room temp and give it light? then once the pins show u birth to the terrerium.. justw anan make sure so he don't screw anything up. how much light do u give it he has one cfl bulb. i read theres it don't need lots fo light just like 4 hours a day or so? ok just wanna make sure so hopefully he gets some shroomies


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6392446 - 12/20/06 10:30 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Just wait a few days after colonization and then birth them,no need to wait till the pin,You should look for "Crumble and case" teks now

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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Blutjager]
    #6392456 - 12/20/06 10:31 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

O and yes you are correct you don't need much light at all,it is a pinning trigger for sure but 4 hrs a day is more than enough to tell them which way is up

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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Blutjager]
    #6392570 - 12/20/06 10:57 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

ok thx. ya he was gonna do pf tek 1st and just birth the cakes into the terrerium . it will be a rubbermade with perlite in the bottom. crumble and case is what i will read up on. is it better to case? i read somewhere that u need to be able to get pf tek down before u try casing anything.keep u posted


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6392741 - 12/21/06 12:20 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

i am a n00b and i can say i have pins out of my crumbled and cased brf and no pins from whole cakes. case'm all they like the microclimate so they can sneak up on you.


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: burmesepsylicibe]
    #6394243 - 12/21/06 02:30 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I will be in this same boat soon enough. My plan is for the first couple jars I will just grow with the cakes. Another few I will case as whole cakes, and the remainder will be crumbled.

Experimentation for yourself seems to be a good indicator of what will work best. Following the proven teks is the best idea, but using more than one seems a good way to learn the ropes quick.


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Kickle]
    #6399456 - 12/23/06 02:21 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

ok here is a update of day 8!!! looks great! fast spreading! rhizomorphic!!!!!!!!!! wow no contams visible so far!!!! what do u guys think! sorry for the pics they aint that good but u can see what i mean. the last pic the mycelium is actually touching eachother now! its a lil hard to see but u can if u look good
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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Kickle]
    #6400454 - 12/23/06 08:47 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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Experimentation for yourself seems to be a good indicator of what will work best. Following the proven teks is the best idea, but using more than one seems a good way to learn the ropes quick.




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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Blutjager]
    #6400839 - 12/23/06 11:17 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

so if u decide to case what can u use for the casing? just vermiculite? if so do u just cook it to sterilize it? also how many cakes do u use per casing? whats the benefits of casing to cakes? more yield? also harvest time u can dunk cakes and double end case to have more flushes, can u flush casings? if so how do u flush a casing and do u get 3 or 4 flushes out of them? just curious my friend is new and we been reading and reading but just confused about casings instead of cakes? he doesn;t want to use poo or anything either. just keep it simple. oh and i love how it pops up and helps u find threads when u posta question! this site is awesome! please answer questions asap i am bout to read more. this stuff is interesting!


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6418952 - 01/02/07 04:41 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

ok its day 18 but these pix are day 16. its almost getting there! none look contamed! maybe its a lucky 1st time! well its not over yet. ok he is gonna do 3 regular cakes, 3 Double End cakes and 4 cakes he will use for a casing . he will use regular verm for the casing . hope all gos well. here are the pix of 2 days ago .day number 16.




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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6439634 - 01/08/07 08:36 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

ok its been a few days still and its about 23 days in the jars. a few still have the bottoms not colonised most do. should he put the ones that are done out? or wait for um all to be ready? some are taking more time and 1 still is 3/4th the way colonized only?. just curious if he should start the ones yet in the chamber.

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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6439712 - 01/08/07 08:53 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

put the ones that are ready in your fc.

leave the other ones to incubate for a little longer.


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: habitat0789]
    #6439731 - 01/08/07 08:59 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

awesome! i will let him kno asap. he was just worried because some look stronger and are done for sure looking but some are fully coated but weaker looking like u can still see the verm but a coating of white not like some that are all fully thick white. just curious. can u keep um in the jar too long?


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6439759 - 01/08/07 09:07 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

yes


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: habitat0789]
    #6441659 - 01/09/07 12:53 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

he is about to birth some of these cakes today with pix included . a few questions before he does this since he don't wanna mess up.he is gonna do these double end cased. do u need to sterilze the dry verm used in the double end case? also do u need to dunk the cake 1st after birthing or just use the double end case. he is gonna put in a tub of perlite and fan a few times a day and have like 4 or 5 hours of one cfl light on um a day. wish him luck! hope all gos well and please if any tips let me kno asap as he is birthing after he gets off work


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6441667 - 01/09/07 12:55 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

i dont do cakes, but i think double end casing is out of date, and dunk and roll is now the rage


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: odium33]
    #6441729 - 01/09/07 01:13 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

will that work better? just his 1st time he don't really kno what hes doing just read alot. but experience is the key. he will learn today i guess. maybe he will double end case after birthing then dunk and roll after the 1st flush?

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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6441781 - 01/09/07 01:30 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

oh ya one more thing. sorry for so many questions but how much perlite do u put in the bottom on the chamber and how much water do u add? i can't find it in the search. so correct me if i am wrong but u just soak the perlite in distilled water and strain it then put like a inch and a half or so in the chamber ? can u add peroxide or something to help the water stay sterile? if so how much? i found this somewhere before and i can't find it now. i will keep looking tho


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6445114 - 01/10/07 12:09 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

ok he didn't birth um yesterday because as we went to look at um only 2 were really done looking and the bottoms of all the rest were not all the way done yet. well thats dissapoining but i guess what a few extra days to wait? i always heard 14 to 21 days to colonise a pf cake but this is 24 days now. just the botoms need to finish tho so i guess it not to bad. they are flipped over so i don't kno what else he can do but wait? well keep u posted.


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6445183 - 01/10/07 12:27 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

u can just wait thats ab it...took my cakes ab a mont maybe more before they were done and i will never do them again..ijust grains from now on..oh and i would recomend spawning you cakes to some poo or coir ..for the little extra work it will make a hug difference this is what i got on my first grow from spawning my cakes..


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: bftiedt]
    #6447023 - 01/10/07 09:51 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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u can just wait thats ab it...took my cakes ab a mont maybe more before they were done and i will never do them again..ijust grains from now on..oh and i would recomend spawning you cakes to some poo or coir ..for the little extra work it will make a hug difference this is what i got on my first grow from spawning my cakes..


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Blutjager]
    #6447153 - 01/10/07 10:34 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

thx for the help! my friend was gonna try a verm casing his 1st time. he doesn't have a pressure cooker either and i hear with grains u do. maybe he can save up some for one. well thnx and post pix asap.


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6451874 - 01/12/07 11:11 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

ok my friend said he birthed some yesterday and that he might see something like pins already or something?? I ain't seen um so i don't kno. keep u posted


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6451892 - 01/12/07 11:22 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Unlikely, if anything its probably knotting.  You will know when you see pins. :thumbup:


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: StopGo]
    #6452355 - 01/12/07 02:16 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

ok maybe thats what it is. i always thought it took at least a week or so. i will find out today or tomorrow. let u kno maybe take pix also


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6453319 - 01/12/07 06:37 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

ok i seen um now. i can't say what he sees are pins. i did notice a lil bump of mycelium tho on the side of the cake. other than that they look just like a pic of a new birthed cake. 2 cakes so far are birthed and he says the others have a week or less prolly. they r double end cased. just curious i was reading the faqs and it says that a cake can yield 3-7 grams dry. is this with all flushes included or just per flush?


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6467115 - 01/16/07 06:37 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

ok today is good news i think. i don't have pix. my friend has one mushroom!!! its not big its about half inch or so. only one tho. he said he noticed it yesterday. it hasn't grown since then he said. so today he rewetted his double end casings and the other cakes are just about done they are fully coated except for lil dime sized spots or so. keep u posted! so how do u know when the 1st flush is over and when to start a new dunk and case?


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6477656 - 01/19/07 06:08 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

ok its been 3 days and the mushroom is now an inch long and fatter but still only one! also 3 more are in there now and 1 more tommorow prolly. how can he increase yield! we need more than 1 1 inch shroom to trip tho.. lol. he was thinking of casing a few. can he use 3 cakes to make a casing? he was also thinking of doin a all verm casing. he has the directions to casing 101. but still would like to see some posts of other peoples pics to get more of a idea. i have searched some and found a few pix. but tips are highly appreciated! he wants at least enough shrooms out of these 10 cakes for 3 people to trip once. is this possible? please help if u got any knowledge to share!


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6477676 - 01/19/07 06:14 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

he also says he thinks they might be too dry? but there is condensation in the tub and its Double End cased. any ways to increase the water? i have seen the straw tek and dunking. is it better to dunk 1st before u put in the chamber maybe? sorry for so many questions just like to hear advice since its my friends 1st time with this. hope u all can help. i am gonna keep reading also. thanks guys u got him this far! he just got to get the rest fot he way


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6479594 - 01/20/07 11:24 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

no ideas? I have been reading methods just don't kno what one would work the best. can anyone point me right?


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6479612 - 01/20/07 11:30 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

should always dunk your cakes before you put them in the FC to fruit. beyond that i'd suggest you make up some more jars, get some straw and poo, and go bulk! monotub that shit dog:thumbup:


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: brainsOplenty]
    #6479819 - 01/20/07 12:45 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

ok thanks thats where he messed up he didn't dunk um. how long should u dunk ? about 12 to 15 or so hours? i think soon he will work his way to the straw and poo but this is the 1st time. mushroom growing virginty here lol. just got to get the basics down and no matter how much u read. it seems to me that theres no way to exactly understand it until u actually do it yourself.

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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6490106 - 01/23/07 05:18 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

here are some pictures!
here is the mushroom!!! then here are some dec'd cakes and the Dunk and rolled cakes. the mushy is not getting much bigger . my friend also dunked for 14 hours or so and rolled and dec'd more cakes. he will also pick the mushroom soon and Dunk that since he never did. so far this is the only mushroom but now that these are dunked and rolled hopefully he will get more mushrooms! also he might case 2 or 3 cakes. he is gonna start a new batch in a day or 2. prolly tazmanian this time and let them incubate while he lets these flush hopefully. how long after the Dunk do u see if pins appear? do these look ok?



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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6514610 - 01/30/07 10:22 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

my FOAF made some more cakes today. he was thinkin tazmanian or "a" strain ? he will inoculate tommorow! he thinks he sees more pins and he also has another mushroom. the one he picked was small as hell once it dried out tho.... now that he dunked some we will see how those r gonna do. but we see pins on it. also these new cakes he might try to case! seems the way to go. well keep u updated and take more pix.

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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6514664 - 01/30/07 10:30 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I definately recommend casing. I cased 4 cakes, and so far I've gotten much better results than the cakes I birthed.


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Kickle]
    #6514695 - 01/30/07 10:36 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

what did u case them with? my friend don't have a pressure cooker either if that matters any. just getting started learning and so far he got 2 mushrooms of the cakes! but they weren't dunked after birthing . so ow he dunked and rolled in verm with a double end case so hopefully he gets more and better sized shrooms. he seen the straight verm casing and that seems better than regular cakes. he don't wanna use poo or anything either.


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    #6514711 - 01/30/07 10:38 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

my cambodian jars are goin kinda slow.


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: FungiRape]
    #6514775 - 01/30/07 10:49 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

fungi it took my friends 24 to 30 days! he used fine verm tho. now this time he used medium verm and also he adds one pill of bee pollen crushed up to the regular pf tek recipe. on ralphsters spores it says its a quick colonizer but maybe its the fine verm? thats why he is trying the medium this time to see if its quicker but now he has either tazmanian, bang phang ka, orrisa india and "a" strain. just what to choose lol. bang phang ka is said to ahve huge fruits and so is orrisa but he wants to be able to learn to case 1st and a strain says its easy to fruit and also tazmanian i hear good things about. hard to choose! any ideas guys? he was gonna try a straight verm casing thise time tho as he reads that 50/50 peat needs lime or oyster shells? all he wants is enough shrooms for 3 of us to trip good! its a first time for one my cousin! hopefully we can get enough for a good time or a few more!!!


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6514801 - 01/30/07 10:54 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

a cubensis is kinda a cubensis man. you wont notice much difference between strains.

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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6514806 - 01/30/07 10:55 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

My cambodian jars colonized in ~14 days at 75 degrees. Medium verm.

I cased with MGMC, pasteurized in a cooler at 160 degrees for an hour.



edit: This casing is Texas though, not Cam.


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Kickle]
    #6514824 - 01/30/07 11:00 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

hey kickle. so sorry for being a noob but what u basically are saying is u use just miracle gro moisture control? do u add anything? if not all u do is heat at 160 for a hour or so? then use just mgmc?? or do u use verm? i hear u use a 1/2 inch of moist verm on the bottom. then your cakes broke or sliced and spread out . then a 1/4 inch casing layer? how many cakes did u use also per casing? yours looks awesome please help. do u got a link to your gro or anything so i can read up on it? my friend just wants to have a good yield. oh ya he also used the fine verm for the top layer as we heard medium an invite contams so its medium verm cakes with a fine verm top layer


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6515066 - 01/31/07 12:26 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I add 1/2 tablespoon lime per cup of MGMC to balance out the Ph, but you don't have to. Plenty of people use it straight out of the bag.

Don't bother with the half inch of verm underneath your spawn. RR says it doesn't add anything, and is more of a hassle.

I just crumbled cakes until I had a 4" substrate depth, then added 1/2" of casing. Feel free to experiment around. A deeper substrate adds more nutrients. While a shallower one allows you more surface area.

Read Hyphae's pinning strategy, it helps loads!

edit: To save you hunting around, here's a link

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3290155/an/0/page/0


Also, if you have plenty of cakes to play around with, you might look into spawning to coir and then casing.


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Kickle]
    #6582057 - 02/18/07 03:50 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

ok heres some updated cambo pix. finally i think my friend got the temp and the lighting under control and now pins are popping up all over!!! heres some pix!
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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6582113 - 02/18/07 04:17 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

If the verm on top of the cakes starts to get dry you can mist it VERY carefully as to not get any fruitbodies wet, and it will help to increase the size of fruits and of the flush in general.

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    #6583456 - 02/18/07 10:48 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

thx i told him to mist um a lil better now. keep u posted.
also he has 10 "a" strain jars colonizing. some are almost done and a few are not even close.


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    #6589597 - 02/20/07 02:34 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

here is a updated pic! awesome!!!! there are also a few more cakes showing some more but are not in the pic. those are also rolled in verm. post pix of that shortly! this is the shit! he counted 9 mushrooms on one cake today. what do you think?







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    #6602174 - 02/23/07 01:38 PM (17 years, 28 days ago)

ok update!!  my friend said he picked 9 mushrooms so far. he didn't have a cam so there is no pix :mad:  but they are drying and he says more seem to be starting on other cakes. keep u posted! he said within 2 weeks or less we should have enough for 3 of us to trip!! awesome! keep u posted if i get some pix!


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    #6609618 - 02/25/07 06:00 PM (17 years, 26 days ago)

ok now my friend has a total of 18 mushies picked and more still starting! also his new jars are almost ready! he will give casings a try with one of the mgmc and one of some straight verm. keep u posted! he says this sunday comong up is the day to try um out! I can't wait!!!


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    #6611672 - 02/26/07 06:49 AM (17 years, 25 days ago)

right on i bet your both excited to eat these hehe...let us know how the trip was....my last cambo grow made a lot of peoples stomach like fell very blotted..and other strains i have grown i didnt knotice this at all ..just on the cambos

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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: ZEPH]
    #6612697 - 02/26/07 02:13 PM (17 years, 25 days ago)

that sucks lol. were they throwing up? I just heard from him again he says so far he has 15 grams dry!! plus 15 or so mushrooms still popping up!! wish i could give him my cam! well keep u posted and will let u kno if we get the bubble guts.. how was the trip tho? how much grams did u eat and what did u feel like besides hurt stomachs. i took some shrooms before and felt like my stomach had some cramping but i didn't feel sick. is that what u mean?>


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    #6612700 - 02/26/07 02:14 PM (17 years, 25 days ago)

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    #6612718 - 02/26/07 02:17 PM (17 years, 25 days ago)

do they suck? i never tried um. hopefully they trip balls instead of suck balls. have u tried um? what was your experience?


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    #6612799 - 02/26/07 02:30 PM (17 years, 25 days ago)

no they were really good trip just mine had a lot of body noice...
a freinds freind told him "man im trippin damn good but im not sure wether to puck or shit myself" hehehe that still makes me lagh when i think of that...

it felt like u drank way to much heavy beer like way blooted feeling..noone pucked or shit themselfs btw..cambos where tho only ones that made us fell this way out of like 6 strains iv grown

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    #6612920 - 02/26/07 02:50 PM (17 years, 25 days ago)

ok man. i will let u kno. haha how much did u guys eat


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Kickle]
    #6612943 - 02/26/07 02:53 PM (17 years, 25 days ago)

Quote:

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My cambodian jars colonized in ~14 days at 75 degrees. Medium verm.

I cased with MGMC, pasteurized in a cooler at 160 degrees for an hour.



edit: This casing is Texas though, not Cam.




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    #6613010 - 02/26/07 03:10 PM (17 years, 25 days ago)

I have a cambo print that I have never grown out so I have yet to try them,I just chimed in to say a huge THANK YOU to everyone who knows "A cube is a cube" is complete and total bullshit,they may grow and look similar but the all trip different regardless of what people around here like to tell you and anyone who has eaten enough different kinda will attest to that,its not "Set and setting" either,I don't know why people insist on forcing this fallacy upon people but I hate it every time I see it,there are strains I love,strains I hate and will never grow again and strains I haven't tried,somehow I bet the new ones I try will end up in one of the other categories after a few trips and really paying attention to how they make you feel :rant:

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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Blutjager]
    #6613031 - 02/26/07 03:15 PM (17 years, 25 days ago)

i have been reading that brf cakes aren't as potent than using say a casing or manure.i also read that thats not true and its just the kind of shroom that makes it potent or not. my friend added bee pollen to his pf tek because he read that it helps potency? is this true? i always read something then i read another post saying the opposite?


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    #6613069 - 02/26/07 03:25 PM (17 years, 25 days ago)

I'm not speaking of potency,potency is more or less a genetic trait if I'm not mistaken and doesn't have all that much to do with substrate providing that the substrate gives the mushrooms that they need,I'm speaking of the "Feel" of the trip itself and Ive noticed giant differences in the feel of trips from different strains,I love Texas and they always feel pretty much the same,I hate Ecuador and after trying them for the 2nd time just to make sure the 1st time wasn't a fluke I couldn't wait to give them away,I think if I didn't give them away I would have thrown them away so I wouldn't get mixed up and eat them again on accident,treasure coast I like,not as much as Texas but their another good feeling mushroom,I have heard the Thai strains are an anxiety fest so I have never even tried them and actually got rid of a pink buffalo syringe due to reading this,I'm the kinda guy that can go into a homicidal rage and want to drag people from their cars and beat them with a shovel from being stuck in traffic if I don't have my medication so the last thing I want is to eat some nightmare mushrooms that put me on edge for hrs

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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Blutjager]
    #6613438 - 02/26/07 05:13 PM (17 years, 25 days ago)

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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6613597 - 02/26/07 06:07 PM (17 years, 25 days ago)

the one time i felt like that ,i ate a little over 3 grams dry.
who knows maby i had some weird contam i didnt ever see that could also be the case

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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: ZEPH]
    #6613772 - 02/26/07 07:00 PM (17 years, 25 days ago)

Cambodians are extremely aggressive.
Mine colonized in 15 days 1/2 pint pf tek.

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    #6613829 - 02/26/07 07:12 PM (17 years, 25 days ago)

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i have been reading that brf cakes aren't as potent than using say a casing or manure.i also read that thats not true and its just the kind of shroom that makes it potent or not. my friend added bee pollen to his pf tek because he read that it helps potency? is this true? i always read something then i read another post saying the opposite?




i yet to get into mycology but have been very interested lately being an ethnobotanist.i have noticed in the plant world which includes fungi is that every different operation of the plant growth process gives different results everytime.

example: we'll use tom and dick ,tom has amazonian strain,dick has amazonian strain.tom lives in georgia,dick lives in oregon.they both do every process of the grow procedure the same indoor ,but each plant is a bit different due to ? the grower.i have done side by side comparisons with we'll say salvia d.i grew mine 10 miles away from my friend.same indoor conditions,same mother plant,i misted often ,he did also,mine was more potent hit for hit.unless one owns a full on climate controlled grow unit variety in everything is going to be up in the air.there are no guarantees in this world.it's not going to start in mycology.


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    #6614365 - 02/26/07 09:03 PM (17 years, 24 days ago)

quote]Shroomtastic420 said:
ok man thx for the info.  what did those ecuadors feel like that made u hate um?




Hard to really describe,just....Uncomfortable and foreboding as if something bad was going to happen,We(me and my fiancee sometimes like to go walk outside and enjoy nature outside,we went to go walk to the woods by my house and made it like halfway there and just looked at each other and agreed we should be indoors,they had an all around bad feeling,like we would get in trouble somehow if we were outside,that was the second time and the time I gave up on them,the 1st time we did stay in but just weren't on the same level,like just feeling odd and uncomfortable,not a bad trip really,I mean nothing was outwardly wrong we just didn't have fun and they made us feel more bad than good and we resolved I would grow them no longer:thumbdown:[

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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Blutjager]
    #6616086 - 02/27/07 09:47 AM (17 years, 24 days ago)

mushrooms that didn't make u wanna go in the woods!!!! that sux!! thats where we go to trip . so much cool stuff to look at in there. inside the house is fun too but i always feel caged up and wanna go explore. lol let u kno how we feel off these ones. he got a 1st timer with us. hope he enjoys it.


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6616298 - 02/27/07 11:06 AM (17 years, 24 days ago)

I guess i'm one of those peeps that say a cube is a cube is a cube.  and heres why I say this... when we take the chemical that fucks you up,psilocin and break it down into it's chemical composition, it cannot be any different in composition between strains or it wouldn't be considered psilocin.  psilocin in texas doesn't have a "cool" molecule as opposed to Ecuador which adversely doesn't have a "sucks" molecule attached to the chemical.  The difference lies in the amount of psilocin ingested and the chemical state of the person taking the drug.  That matched with the placebo effect gives your differences between strains. I would also say that EVERY trip is different even within an isolate because I'm in a different space and time and if you think about it while you trip out the same isolate enough times and don't dismiss the differences (your mind will dismiss the things that aren't the same based on you "knowing" that you are tripping on the same isolate... you must make a conscience effort to distinguish between each trip) you will also notice the differences. :smile:

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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: fahtster]
    #6619459 - 02/28/07 03:57 AM (17 years, 23 days ago)

i know a cube is a cube is a cube.......but why do a lot of people including myself fell the same way?......there are diffrent amounts of certian chemicals that are poisn in mushrooms...ie excuse the spelling bactocin?....to this degree i belive some strains producew this chemicall more than others...and is why lets say for me and so far my favorite Austrailians where so awsome good!= small amount of bactocin.....
cambodians =good but lot of body noise bad....=high bactocin.....
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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: ZEPH]
    #6619600 - 02/28/07 06:27 AM (17 years, 23 days ago)

Baeocystin (4-Phosphoryloxy-N-methyltryptamine) is broken down in your stomach by enzymes... if you take an MAOI, those enzymes are stopped and a slightly stronger trip will occur but you need those MAOI's.
Norbaeocystin (4-Phosphoryloxytryptamine) is unknown to cause any ethenogenic effects

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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: fahtster]
    #6620630 - 02/28/07 02:18 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

ok we tested some out early yesterday! omg it was crazy. I took only 2.7 grams (5 mushrooms) a big one and 4 small plus 2 lil aborts on there. and so did my buddy. i was trippin hard!lights were changing colors from orange to blue to a redish. music and movies were cool! also no stomach ache. plus it seemed to come in waves! i'd feel it hard then it go away a little then i feel it hard again! my buddy says he could of took more but i was good off the 2.7 grams!!! wow!! plus he got lots more popping up and hes gonna redunk again and try for anohther flush! hes some of the pix i got.
fist is the dry mushies he has! it was 14 grams. then pix of the cakes! then another pic of the wet he just pulled! that weighs 51.8 wet anyone know why some are light in color and some are dark?
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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6620787 - 02/28/07 02:54 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

52 grams wet turns into how much dry grams?? is there a ratio?


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6620820 - 02/28/07 03:03 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

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Shroomtastic420 said:

52 grams wet turns into how much dry grams?? is there a ratio?




not a very accurate one...

but...

10% or a little less is what most people generally use.

so...

5.2 grams dry or less...in your case.



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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Roadkill]
    #6620912 - 02/28/07 03:27 PM (17 years, 23 days ago)

ok. i guess it would be different every time. i am not sure if that ratio is right tho. because if i compare to me and my buddy ate 5
mushies each for a total of 10 and it was 2.7 grams a piece so that makes almost 6 grams total we ate. there was 2 bigger mushrooms and 8 smaller ones. but from the ones he picked that made 51.8 grams wet he has at least 15 to 18 mushrooms and some way bigger than the ones we ate. it would have to dry out to more than 5 grams prolly. i will let u know once they dry tho. I guess u can always guess small so u r happy when u get more than what u thought lol. i will guess maybe 7 to 8 grams at least.

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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6631369 - 03/03/07 12:45 PM (17 years, 20 days ago)

ok he got all of um dry now and the total weight was 21 grams minus the 6 we ate the other day. so a total of 27 or 28 grams off one flush! awesome! cakes r redunked and put back in the chamber again. so how long till more pop up now? also soon the new strain is gonna be ready fruit. keep u posted


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6637365 - 03/05/07 11:53 AM (17 years, 18 days ago)

me and my dude had 3.5 each and my 1st timer buddy had 3 . lets just say we had a blast! we went to the woods and it was snowing. we tripped very hard! lots of visuals and hard body buzz. the snow flakes were awesome! i seen this squirrel look at us and run away. i swear i could feel him think we were nuts lol. we were rambling on like retards and we listened to pink floyd and grateful dead and the doors! it was great except for one pink floyd song that made us feel down and sad. we were tripping so hard we almost was like this is way to hard lol we even thought of not taking um no more for a second. i don't kno why lol. but it was freakin fun as hell. i had to stay sitting because if i stood up i felt out of place and i swear my buddy on my left then he was on my right. his camo coat was morphing and everything was wavy and crazy. millions of trails of the snowflakes! my buddy had to stand and he just kept standing. i swear he was gonna grow roots and branches lol. another crazy thing was when the sad song came on we had to change it and the song after that was grateful deads touch of grey! it made us feel so much better we was like wish this was on repeat and then for some reason it was!!! and it played over and over lol. i will get by. i will survive. lol. thnx guys!!! it was the best! we felt like we seen all 4 different seasons in the woods. it was very spiritual also.


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6637387 - 03/05/07 12:03 PM (17 years, 18 days ago)

Glad to hear you've been having fun with the hobby. To me, that's what it is all about.

I have to wonder about your 21 grams dried though. Either they weren't entirely dried, or they were the densest mushrooms ever to exist. That's a very high dry weight out of 51.8 wet.

Just an observation :smile: Good luck in future grows!


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Kickle]
    #6637453 - 03/05/07 12:28 PM (17 years, 18 days ago)

actually it wasn't out of the 52 wet. it was out of the original 14 dry minus the 6 we ate plus the 51 wet plus the rest picked. so all in all he got 28 grams out of all 10 cakes and one cake got a big mushroom still and all our redunked. the 52 i believe came out to aroun 7 or so grams


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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Shroomtastic420]
    #6638309 - 03/05/07 04:31 PM (17 years, 18 days ago)

Ah, my appologies. I skimmed through most until the end of the post where I picked it backup.

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Re: 1st timer cambodian grow [Re: Kickle]
    #6638393 - 03/05/07 04:55 PM (17 years, 18 days ago)

thnx kickle! keep u posted on the new "a" strain cakes! also let u guys kno if these cambo cakes care to pin and grow some more again. they have been redunked so hopefully they will gro more. i would reccomend this cambodian strain to anyone! they r very strong. stronger than any street mushrooms I have ever tried! they were way worth it. especially since they were the free strain of the month lol. hopefully the "a" strain gives my buddy some nice specimens to try out lol.


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