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 chodamunky
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 Re: Thanatophobia  [Re: Demon]
#656360 - 05/31/02 05:42 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Why do people fear death?
It's because they will lose all the things they are attached to in this life. If you own a nice car, when u die you can't take it with you; when u die u leave your kids and wife that u have become dependant on for your comfort and security, but u can't take them with you. So in effect, your attachments and possessions make you what you are and people are afraid of losing them because they will lose their identity. This is very simple to understand. Look at the Egyptian pharoahs, they filled thier chambers with everything they owned so they could take it with them to their afterlife. DEATH = losing your attachments you worked so hard to get.
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 deepr
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 Re: Thanatophobia [Re: chodamunky]
#656408 - 05/31/02 06:11 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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*cm.... our possessions are not who we are... our obsession with possession defiles us, and distracts us from who we really are. I think that if an individuals sole reason for fearing death is losing his valuables then they deserve to die. we are not put on earth to go to our job and work like a bitch to pay the maintenance costs of our material urges. the whole religion of buddhism distances itself from the selfish desires and impulses that we harbor. The more possessions we have, the more worries we have. this is unneccessary, these things dont last, they are not important, I myself have only realised this in actuality recently.
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 Re: Thanatophobia [Re: ]
#656681 - 05/31/02 09:19 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't fear death, however I do fear a slow, painful death. I guess you could say it is not death that I fear, but dieing. I live with my elderly father who I do all the housework for and take care of car maintenance and yard work and I hope to God that he goes before I do so he is not burdened by my passing. My mom and little brother died a couple of years ago and I have dreams where I see them and it feels so good. When I was young ( I am 47 ) I used to think that people who commited suicide had to be crazy, but now I don't know. I wish that I could remember my past lives with certainty and know that in the next one that I would remember this one. It is such a shame to gain a lifes worth of knowledge/experiences only to lose them on the next turn of the wheel.
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Re: Thanatophobia [Re: deepr]
#656717 - 05/31/02 10:21 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think that if an individuals sole reason for fearing death is losing his valuables then they deserve to die.
What an advanced spiritual concept.
the whole religion of buddhism distances itself from the selfish desires and impulses that we harbor.
Like the selfish desire that lusts for someone else's destruction?
The more possessions we have, the more worries we have. this is unneccessary, these things dont last, they are not important, I myself have only realised this in actuality recently.
So until recently you deserved to die, but now that you have seen the light, you are part of an elite group? Get a grip and some humility.
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Edited by Swami (05/31/02 10:24 PM)
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 Re: Thanatophobia [Re: Swami]
#656809 - 06/01/02 01:55 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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first of all, i love it how people like swami 'spellcheck' my posts for me *thanks* yet hesitate to provide an intelligible opinion of their own on the situation... swami, control your fear of the unknown.... and learn
my post was in context... if you read the earlier posts you might understand what I am referring to... this post is actually about how there is more to life than common materialism and fulfillment of our desires, I get annoyed at how we have this one opportunity called life, and I watch everyone piss it up against the wall. Before I did my philosophy degree, yes i was wasting my life, i had no direction, i was thinking how i could make some cash and live the high life... but then I truly learnt that this is not important, spiritual maturity if you will.. i could go on but id probably be wasting my time on you
i am not enlightened, i am not even a buddhist, I just study it for its principles.. trying to be a better person is not an attempt at elitism. im not skiting, i am retelling my experience, and hope that others will think things through, because if we dont, its all over
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Re: Thanatophobia [Re: jono]
#659499 - 06/02/02 06:34 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok, let me clarify myself.
I fear a long drawn out painful death. an instant one would be nice.
As for the other. I know that if it happened, I wouldn't care or even know. But now, while I do exist, the idea of ever not existing is horrible.
hope that makes sense.
larry
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 Re: Thanatophobia [Re: ]
#661743 - 06/04/02 02:58 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Death and dying!!! Wow what a subject!!! I believe like many which have posted here that fear of the unknown and what we cannot hope to understand is why I have some apprehention of Dying. I will however not let that control my life. I am here now. I will enjoy now!! To sit and contemplate ones death is a pointless waste of the here in now!! You cannot change it. You cannot even predict how you will accept death when it comes. Live now with passion and vigor and Death will be of no concern...
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Re: Thanatophobia [Re: ]
#661805 - 06/04/02 04:02 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Magnificient!!
This is the exact response I was looking for 
You win the grand prize... the ability to not fear death and simply enjoy life as you have it.
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Re: Thanatophobia [Re: deepr]
#661823 - 06/04/02 04:16 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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first of all, i love it how people like swami 'spellcheck' my posts for me *thanks*
*blushes* Aw shucks. It tweren't nothin'.
yet hesitate to provide an intelligible opinion of their own on the situation...
Will have to reread my job description. I don't believe that it stated that my opinions had to be intelligible.
swami, control your fear of the unknown.... and learn
*shaking uncontrollably and breaking out in a cold sweat* OK, I will try for you.
I get annoyed at how we have this one opportunity called life, and I watch everyone piss it up against the wall.
Please explain how your "annoyance" is a sign of spiritual maturity? Are you omnipotent in that you watched "everyone" piss away their life?
...this post is actually about how there is more to life than common materialism and fulfillment of our desires,
Yes, there is also the loss of material goods and the thwarting of desires.
Before I did my philosophy degree... then I truly learnt ...
Please share with us what you "learnt".
i could go on but id probably be wasting my time on you
True, I am beyond redemption and have the cerebral power of a caterpillar.
i am not enlightened
NO WAY, DUDE! I am shocked beyond recognition.
... trying to be a better person is not an attempt at elitism.
Huh? My comment on elitism had nothing to do with your attempts at self-improvement, but on your judgement that certain others "deserved to die" which is most certainly an elitist stance! I suppose that you think Hitler's viewpoint that Jews "deserved to die" was NOT an elitist stance.
im not skiting...
I am most glad that you have renounced "skiting" as it is morally reprehensible and illegal in most countries.
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Re: Thanatophobia [Re: ]
#663466 - 06/05/02 01:06 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Edited by mndfreeze
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deepr
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Re: Thanatophobia [Re: Barbi]
#663473 - 06/05/02 01:19 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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yep.... good ol' natural selection
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Re: Thanatophobia [Re: Swami]
#663541 - 06/05/02 03:18 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Swami.. you crack me the hell up 
i could go on but id probably be wasting my time on you
True, I am beyond redemption and have the cerebral power of a caterpillar.
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