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Re: Execution lasts a tad bit longer........... [Re: Hanky]
    #6384824 - 12/18/06 10:18 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I looked up some death certificates of executed prisoners and all I saw for their cause of death was "lethal injection" or an equivalent method of execution. Could you find a death certificate of an executed prisoner that says homicide?


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Re: Execution lasts a tad bit longer........... [Re: Redstorm]
    #6385044 - 12/19/06 12:06 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Twizted stated : Some people would be less likely to murder if given a good job and a decent education. It could lower gang violence and hate crimes


Without flaming, this is pure conjecture and baseless. I am on the borderline of executions ran by the state. The opinion you cite is a pipe dream at best....any evidence you can cite???????


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Re: Execution lasts a tad bit longer........... [Re: Redstorm]
    #6385069 - 12/19/06 12:24 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Execution lasts a tad bit longer........... [Re: Hanky]
    #6385072 - 12/19/06 12:25 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

And sorry, I should have said "manner of death" not cause of Death. My mistake as I knew this was the case but couldn;t remember the terminology.


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My Foolproof Execution Method [Re: Hanky]
    #6386394 - 12/19/06 12:30 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Here's my foolproof execution method, that should be implemented immediately by every state.

An anesthesiologist puts the condemned under. A team of doctors comes in, harvesting every usable organ. The heart, liver, lungs, kidneys, etc. are rushed off to help those needing transplants. When the doctors have extracted everything that can be used, turn off the machines and discard whatever's left over.

0% survival rate, and the lives of many are (potentially) saved as a result of the execution.


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Re: My Foolproof Execution Method [Re: pokermush]
    #6386400 - 12/19/06 12:33 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Didn't you see the simpsons where Homer gets Snake's hair after he is executed. It turned Homer into an evil criminal.

Honestly though, it would feel weird to have a murderer's heart inside of you. I suppose it beats no heart at all.


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Re: My Foolproof Execution Method [Re: pokermush]
    #6386471 - 12/19/06 01:05 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

An anesthesiologist puts the condemned under. A team of doctors comes in, harvesting every usable organ.

Doctors are prohibited by medical ethics from participating in executions other than to confirm death. Some disregard this, but the principle is generally adhered to.


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Re: My Foolproof Execution Method [Re: Diploid]
    #6386489 - 12/19/06 01:11 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Then we can use medical students to perform the operation.


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Re: My Foolproof Execution Method [Re: pokermush]
    #6387568 - 12/19/06 06:20 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

pokermush said:
Here's my foolproof execution method, that should be implemented immediately by every state.

An anesthesiologist puts the condemned under. A team of doctors comes in, harvesting every usable organ. The heart, liver, lungs, kidneys, etc. are rushed off to help those needing transplants. When the doctors have extracted everything that can be used, turn off the machines and discard whatever's left over.

0% survival rate, and the lives of many are (potentially) saved as a result of the execution.




They already do that in china, I wonder if you'd think it was a good idea after a family member of yours was wrongfully sentenced to death and exceuted in that manner.

That's the problem with the death penalty, mistakes are made and innocent people are murdered.


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Re: My Foolproof Execution Method [Re: Hanky]
    #6387885 - 12/19/06 07:46 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

in america, no one is innocent anyways, so it doesn't matter


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Re: My Foolproof Execution Method [Re: Hanky]
    #6388709 - 12/19/06 11:47 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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Hanky said:
That's the problem with the death penalty, mistakes are made and innocent people are murdered.




Thats why the death penalty should only be applied to clear....cut and dry cases of murder.

If there is any chance that said criminal didn't commit the crime of murder then they shouldn't be executed.

I'm sure that there are plenty of people on death row that have admitted to murdering someone.....those are the ones who should have their organs harvested.


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Re: My Foolproof Execution Method [Re: Hanky]
    #6389871 - 12/20/06 11:28 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Hanky said:
They already do that in china, I wonder if you'd think it was a good idea after a family member of yours was wrongfully sentenced to death and exceuted in that manner.


Yes, I would definitely prefer that a wrongly executed loved one's organs go to save lives than for the otherwise good organs to go to waste.
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That's the problem with the death penalty, mistakes are made and innocent people are murdered.


That is so rare in the US that it isn't even worth considering. I'm much more concerned about the innocent victims who were murdered by the criminal, and the lives that could be saved by going to harvest executions.


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Re: My Foolproof Execution Method [Re: pokermush]
    #6389949 - 12/20/06 11:52 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

That is so rare in the US

Not that rare.

As DNA forensics becomes more inexpensive and available, the list of wrongly convicted people gets longer every year. Couple that with the police corruption and evidence tampering and planting I know takes place, and capital punishment starts to look like it might be a bad idea at least in some cases.


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4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: My Foolproof Execution Method [Re: Diploid]
    #6390195 - 12/20/06 01:00 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

With the use of DNA forensics nowadays, doesn't it make more sense to have capitol punishment then ever before? There is a lower risk of killing the wrong person.


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Re: My Foolproof Execution Method [Re: Diploid]
    #6390445 - 12/20/06 01:59 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Diploid said:
Not that rare.

As DNA forensics becomes more inexpensive and available, the list of wrongly convicted people gets longer every year. Couple that with the police corruption and evidence tampering and planting I know takes place, and capital punishment starts to look like it might be a bad idea at least in some cases.



But it is extremely rare. And the advent of DNA testing has made it even more so. Ironically, DNA evidence is robbing the anti-death penalty crowd of the most effective argument they had: the risk of wrongful conviction. It just doesn't happen enough anymore to be worth worrying about.

But lets look at this mathematically. Let's suppose for the sake of argument that 1 of 100 executions is for a wrongful conviction. That is at least 100 people who were murdered, in most cases in horrific circumstances to earn the death penalty. If the death penalty deterred only 2% of murders, that would be a net gain of 1 innocent life per 100 executions. If the death penalty deters 0% of murders, but harvest executions are employed, the lives of over 500 people could be saved through the executions. An enormous net gain for society.

Also, in many cases where a wrongful death sentence is issued, the wrongfully convicted is a hardened criminal that just wasn't guilty of that particular crime. It's still a tragedy, but nowhere near the tragedy of when an innocent law-abiding family man is hauled off to be zapped.


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