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OfflineHamurabi
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i am going crazy....!!!
    #638556 - 05/21/02 03:17 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

hello guys....i know that many of you will say "I AM TIRED WITH YOUR DAMN JARS" and i am sorry that i say tha same stuff again and again but i know shit about the shroom world and i am trying to learn...
i'll remind u my situation: i inoculated 2 eq syringes in 7 jars!!! i lefta the 2 of the 7 jars unsterilized!
today it's the 3rd day after inoculation..

the 5 sterilized (with boiling water) jars have no signs of mycelium (they have very high humidity in them,i an see water bubles in their walls!)!

and the 2 unsterilized jars are 20%colonized!!! they are being white!!!

what do you believe? thanks


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Re: i am going crazy....!!! [Re: Hamurabi]
    #638569 - 05/21/02 03:31 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Why do you think it?s such a great idea to inoculate unsterilized jars?


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Re: i am going crazy....!!! [Re: Hamurabi]
    #638582 - 05/21/02 03:51 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

http://shroomery.org/wwwthreads/files/81438-agarcontam3114.jpg
Check out the above pic....if your jars look like that....toss them away....fast.... remember they might take up to 7 days to show sighns of growth depending on the freshness of spores and temp. Good Luck!


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Re: i am going crazy....!!! [Re: Sterile]
    #638585 - 05/21/02 04:00 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Anno,i don't know why i didnt sterilize these 2 jars...maybe for experimentical reasons:-P

anyway,my friend Sterile, my unsterilized jars which have shown a 20% colonization are not like the pic you told me to see. they have reall white beautiful mycelium growth! no green! just white!!!:-)


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Re: i am going crazy....!!! [Re: Hamurabi]
    #638612 - 05/21/02 04:33 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Well good luck with those, but I wouldn't expect to get very far with the unsteril jars. They may be white now but give it time.


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Re: i am going crazy....!!! [Re: Hamurabi]
    #638764 - 05/21/02 08:03 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

LOL, i believe the unsterilized jars you inoculated 3 days ago are 20% colonized...by cobweb mold. Cube mycelium doesn't grow that fast - 3 days after inoculation you should have first signs of growth unless you inoculated with live mycelium. Cobweb on the other hand is really quick and since it first appears takes over an entire qt. jar in 4 or 5 days...

That's just my guess...i may be wrong. Maybe cubies like better non cooked substrate and you were lucky that they didn't contam. But i am quite sure that if it didn't contam untill now it will in a few days.

Anyways, post your results!


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Re: i am going crazy....!!! [Re: esin]
    #638774 - 05/21/02 08:17 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Ill have to disagree with the last response...

I have currently many jars of PES amazonians, that were 90% colonized on the fifth day.... I know its not cobweb, noo fuzzyness here..

Jars can colonize quickly, it happens all the time, to me atleast
Im sure to others as well.

Although I dont think innoculating non sterilized jars is good I can beleive that some type of colinization happened, But I am almost 100% sure that by 100% colinization those jars you innoculated un sterile will be contaminated...

As for the jars that are doing nothing give them atleast a week or more before you toss them out, At A week and a half if u see nothing toss them out...

anyways have patience, it will all come together...

BTW it sounds to me like you may have too much water in your mix if your seeing lots of condensation, The only time things get humid and condesated in my jars is after I flip them Then they become like little terrariums. But usually I only flipe after 50-60% colonized.

Hope this helps

Im no expert

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Re: i am going crazy....!!! [Re: indicaz]
    #638800 - 05/21/02 08:32 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

That's cool! I was talking based on my experience which certainly isn't much. I'm a newbie and i've only grown a few batches...Just hope my next jars colonize that fast


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Re: i am going crazy....!!! [Re: esin]
    #638810 - 05/21/02 08:37 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

It probably wouldn't be cob web mold this early on.

and the color wouldn't be pure white.... if it was cob web mold.

It could be mycelium....hopefully for him I hope it is.

It could be green mold....cause it starts out white....and turns green.

who knows.....time will tell.


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