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 I've figured it out now... 
#638551 - 05/21/02 01:01 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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All is chaos, in everything around is is chaos. And thats what binds us together.
I love chaos, by writing this i could fall down and die by my own chair falling on top of me. THATS CHAOS! Chaos is constant. Nothing is 100% sure only thing sure is that everything is chaos.  I found this out last night. And i don't care about people who don't agree, i will not even react. So only people who agree, please react and work this out to a much more clear sentence.
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 deep_umbra
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#638574 - 05/21/02 01:37 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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ahh.. so you're saying that stuff happens.. now i understand
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#638631 - 05/21/02 02:54 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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wow! we have a winner!:))
i'm glad there is one more person on the earth opening his eyes...
the whole universe is a neverending, everchanging flow. nothing is constant.
it only may seem constant to us, but it isn't.
exactly the way earth seemed flat to people in the past.
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Re: I've figured it out now... [Re: Fliquid]
#638672 - 05/21/02 04:00 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Simply by replying to your post I am trying to create order (in my own mind) out of chaos. How can intelligent beings not contradict chaos and still be intelligible? That's what I'd like to know.  
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Fliquid
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#638677 - 05/21/02 04:07 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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You are getting my point exactly!
Fantastic!
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#638680 - 05/21/02 04:09 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Every spark of chemical reaction in your mind comes forth out of chaos.
Not everything has a reason, thats why its chaos.
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Re: I've figured it out now... [Re: Fliquid]
#638686 - 05/21/02 04:12 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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I get it. We only perceive it to be order in our minds, it's actually chaos. From chaos to chaos. It's all just chaos. Order is an illusion? I kinda' like it.
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Re: I've figured it out now... [Re: frogsheath]
#638692 - 05/21/02 04:19 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Congrates, by fact... Human Life Is One big illusion. But people feel safe in it and believe in it.
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Re: I've figured it out now... [Re: Fliquid]
#638701 - 05/21/02 04:29 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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But do we need to create order in our minds in order to survive? What would happen if we just gave in to the chaos? Why do we feel such an inherent desire to extract order from everything and deduce a nice, clean, clear picture of the universe?
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Re: I've figured it out now... [Re: Fliquid]
#638707 - 05/21/02 04:33 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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by the way - did you ended up to this conclusion only by your self? if so well done!
i have always had that little sparkle at the end of my mind that the world is not what it seems, and there is somekind of general truth we are missing... but reading the books of Osho, really opened my eyes.
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Order is fears enemy.
Giving in to chaos is wonderfull!
No more fear!
No more pain!
Just being pure and one....
If we would abandon order, we would lose our fears. Or our fears will controle us even more...
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#638712 - 05/21/02 04:47 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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With the sun on your back, and you're eyes looking at you're shadow... You see me, i am like you. I ended up to this conclusion only by myself. My sign is virgo, so i am a thinker. Thinky thinky allllllll day long.... You need people who know, not books. People can teach you and give you feedback on things hanging on your mind. I have a friend who knows what we know. And we have wonderfull talks most of the time.
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Re: I've figured it out now... [Re: Fliquid]
#638723 - 05/21/02 05:05 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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you are absolutly right. books are dead... but they are doing somekind of work after all - i have made a lot of personal improvement due to reading. i have that big problem that i don't have a friend such as yours:)
i consider books only as guidelines - they give you the basic stuff and from that point it's up to you to explore...
but i deeply encourage you to read some of Osho's books. you can try the one for meditation... after all why do you have to loose your time inventing the wheel oncle again, when you can spent this time for something really new...
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Re: I've figured it out now... [Re: lof]
#638735 - 05/21/02 05:30 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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A thinking human brain, the most complex object in the known universe, forms from a blob of undifferentiated embryonic tissue. It then goes on to deduce that "everything is chaos". The gods of Irony beam with contentment.
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#638772 - 05/21/02 06:15 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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there is an order in the universe. its called mathematics. everything is governed by it. as long as actions/reactions follow math, there is indeed order in the universe. i believe the most chaotic elements in our reality are human actions because no matter how much you analyze a situation, a human can be introduced into the equation, resulting in a multitude of possible outcomes which do not nessesarily follow universal logic. but then again, our minds are governed by mathematics which should make outcomes predictable, but we each contain our own little universe so there are infinite reactions.
reaction seen in logical analysis: bob shoves dave, dave shoves back
reaction spontanius: bob shoves dave, dave says "39,485,374,479"
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Freeing you from the earth.
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Re: I've figured it out now... [Re: Fliquid]
#638773 - 05/21/02 06:16 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Actually, everything is predetermined. Everything is a giant chain reaction which is determined by phisical and chemical laws that are so complex that we simply shrug it off as "chaos". I guess thats my own opinion though.
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#638807 - 05/21/02 06:34 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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chaos and order = yin and yang
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#638828 - 05/21/02 06:53 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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"random chance is insufficient to explain random chance"
(attributed to jubal harshaw)
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Re: I've figured it out now... [Re: Fliquid]
#638919 - 05/21/02 07:57 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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My sign is virgo, so i am a thinker.
Ahh, I didn't realize that people born under the other signs didn't think.
Don't blame me for being picky, blame my Zodiak sign.
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Re: I've figured it out now... [Re: Fliquid]
#639369 - 05/21/02 02:32 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Chaos Isn't real, it is only percieved. Chaos is The inconsistencies, and contradictions of two or more ordered systems.
Order is the standard, it is the background upon which chaos is projected.
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