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AmericaOnLSD
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Disadvantages of Popcorn vs. Rye Berries?
#6366796 - 12/13/06 04:28 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Popcorn is a grain, right? Where I live white popcorn is $1 a pound at the nearest grocery store, and probably is available cheaper than that if I look around. Rye berries cost more than this from mailorder suppliers, plus the shipping can cost more than the product. So why wouldn't everyone use popcorn? Are results not as good?
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etam
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Re: Disadvantages of Popcorn vs. Rye Berries? [Re: AmericaOnLSD]
#6366811 - 12/13/06 04:31 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lots of people use popcorn. Search through the posts and you'll find some grow logs.
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myCo_psyCo
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Re: Disadvantages of Popcorn vs. Rye Berries? [Re: etam]
#6366821 - 12/13/06 04:34 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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i beleve that rye is superior because of its water retention
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MustardMan
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Re: Disadvantages of Popcorn vs. Rye Berries? [Re: myCo_psyCo]
#6366869 - 12/13/06 04:52 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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I got 25 lbs. of Rye berries for 2$ or something, Plus POPCORN SUCKS.
Don't use popcorn, all I hear is bad news.
Check your local nursery, maybe even lows/home depot, ask for winter rye seed.
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Edited by MustardMan (12/13/06 04:54 PM)
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dist0rt
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Re: Disadvantages of Popcorn vs. Rye Berries? [Re: MustardMan]
#6366994 - 12/13/06 05:33 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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From the years of reading i've done and averaging out all the debates, popcorn seems to be just fine if you're spawning it to something bigger. While rye seems a better choice if you plan to just case it and fruit it. Rye is only 20 something cents a pound here so i've always stuck with rye.
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Re: Disadvantages of Popcorn vs. Rye Berries? [Re: dist0rt]
#6367010 - 12/13/06 05:37 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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i just started using popcorn a month ago and i love it. plus the store where i shop has this popcorn which was usally like 10 dollars for a bag of 3 lbs and they have it 10 for 10 dollars (discontinued)so 30 lbs for 10 dollars for organic popcorn.
i spawn to all sorts of stuff with great results.
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Re: Disadvantages of Popcorn vs. Rye Berries? [Re: royer]
#6367311 - 12/13/06 06:53 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have always used popcorn with sucess. I've tried other grains and always have problems. However, just buy what is on hand and stay consistent. If you do a batch and it doesn't work. Find out why and then try again. Switching grains I think can be confusing. I had started with popcorn and now know the in's and out's of it. The same can be done with any grain though. And it does work well for cases for me.
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autographguys
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Re: Disadvantages of Popcorn vs. Rye Berries? [Re: ChinaBoy]
#6367420 - 12/13/06 07:20 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think you would be better off with cracked corn. I have tried popcorn and it didnt colonize well for me. I dont think it holds mosture well. WBS is beter than popcorn. Its cheap I just got a 5lb bag for 2.50. I think petco sells like 40 lbs for very little money. Try some popcorn it might work for you. I would try all kinds of grain. Find what works best for you.
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JJJJJJ
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Re: Disadvantages of Popcorn vs. Rye Berries? [Re: autographguys]
#6367467 - 12/13/06 07:31 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've had mixed results with Rye, Popcorn, & WBS. One of the best batches i even cooked up was 1/2 PF cake recipie and 1/2 boiled cracked corn. I've had good results with 1/2 rye 1/2 PF as well. I'm currently incubating my first 1/2 WBS 1/2 PF jars. I find your chances of contam are lower and water content is controlled by the verm.
All of the grains seem to work well when they work but they sure stink like shit when they don't especially WBS.
Popcorn can survive the PC and grow....i've got sprouts of corn growing alongside my shrooms.
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Hotnuts
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Re: Disadvantages of Popcorn vs. Rye Berries? [Re: JJJJJJ]
#6367513 - 12/13/06 07:44 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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You can buy wild bird seed for .20 cents a pound. If you can do any of the grains you've mentioned, you can do wbs.
Edited by Hotnuts (12/13/06 10:36 PM)
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Blutjager
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Re: Disadvantages of Popcorn vs. Rye Berries? [Re: MustardMan]
#6368167 - 12/13/06 09:56 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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MustardMan said: I got 25 lbs. of Rye berries for 2$ or something, Plus POPCORN SUCKS.
Could you please tell me where,pm me if you don't want to say it on the boards,I like rye better than anything and I was paying like 10 times that
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Re: Disadvantages of Popcorn vs. Rye Berries? [Re: Blutjager]
#6368207 - 12/13/06 10:07 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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The best price I've seen on organic rye berries is what I pay at a local health food store. They order 25 lb bags for me, and when I buy two at a time, the price is $8 per bag. The same store sells it for 79 cents a pound from their bins, but by having them order the full bags, they cut me a good deal. RR
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Re: Disadvantages of Popcorn vs. Rye Berries? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#6369283 - 12/14/06 06:44 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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The difference is fruiting. Popcorn works great for spawn but sucks for fruiting.
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Re: Disadvantages of Popcorn vs. Rye Berries? [Re: hyphae]
#6370611 - 12/14/06 02:22 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've yet to use popcorn, but I love rye. I went from PF to WBS and then to rye. Never going back and don't feel the need to change. I got my rye for 10 for about 50 pounds from a feed store. If you go through a health food store, you're going to pay more (unles you can get a deal like RR).
Hell, I live in a major city and was able to get rye. I just had to drive 40 minutes to the rural area. Feed stores.
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Re: Disadvantages of Popcorn vs. Rye Berries? [Re: Blutjager]
#6370627 - 12/14/06 02:28 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Could you please tell me where, pm me if you don't want to say it on the boards,I like rye better than anything and I was paying like 10 times that
Woops; sorry I realize now that it was 10 lbs, not 25... So like 20 cents a pound, still cheap though 
I got my rye from a local nursery- in their warehouse section they sell all kinds of bulk grains/peat moss etc. for dirt cheap.
The employees didn't know what rye berries were, they called this stuff 'rye grain', but it looks the exact same as the berries so I figure they are the same.
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Edited by MustardMan (12/14/06 02:35 PM)
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Blutjager
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Re: Disadvantages of Popcorn vs. Rye Berries? [Re: MustardMan]
#6371110 - 12/14/06 05:21 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yea,man that sounded too good to be true,I know a place near me that will order it for me in 50 lb bags but they only give me like 10% of of the regular retail price even though I'm buying the whole shabang....Cheap bastards
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Re: Disadvantages of Popcorn vs. Rye Berries? [Re: Blutjager]
#6371301 - 12/14/06 06:11 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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popcorn sucks same with cracked corn they are bigger kernals so you get less mycelium since the kernals take up more space hence the illusian that they colonize quikly.second would be that they dont really have alot of nutes look at wbs nutes or rye nutes waaayyy more than popcorn
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Re: Disadvantages of Popcorn vs. Rye Berries? [Re: Blutjager]
#6371413 - 12/14/06 06:44 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Blutjager said: Yea,man that sounded too good to be true,I know a place near me that will order it for me in 50 lb bags but they only give me like 10% of of the regular retail price even though I'm buying the whole shabang....Cheap bastards
there is a new health store 1/4 mile away that just opened up and they sell me 50 lbs of wheat berries or popcorn all organic and they have agar and agar flakes.
50 lbs of wheat berries is 25$ 50 ls of wheat berries soft is 28$ 50 lbs of popcorn is 35$
and because i order bulk they give me 30% off
so i got the wheat berries for 25$ tonight and it cost me like 18 dollars sweet.
also pop corn works great as spawn..
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