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Fradle
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Ps. cyanescens in cold zones
#6366125 - 12/13/06 01:37 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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So, is growing Psilocybe Cyanescens in zone 4 doomed to fail? I read everywhere that zone 5 is stretching it but somewhere else I read that it can survive -20C, thats pretty damn cold even for zone 4. It makes me sad, I have acres and acres of useless Alder growing on my land...
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Re: Ps. cyanescens in cold zones [Re: Fradle]
#6366173 - 12/13/06 01:52 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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You can always mulch the beds heavily in winter. It also makes a difference if there's snow cover or not. Snow is an excellent insulator. If all else fails, you can simply grow spawn out indoors over the winter, and spawn outdoors to chips again each spring. RR
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Re: Ps. cyanescens in cold zones [Re: Fradle]
#6366859 - 12/13/06 04:48 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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If all else fails, you can simply grow spawn out indoors over the winter, and spawn outdoors to chips again each spring.
Exactly what I was thinking! You could use winters to multiply spawn indoor and lay beds in spring for fruiting in the autumns.
But zone 4, that's -30'C, beastly cold!
I don't know what the experienced growers say about it, but perhaps you can lay some beds that are a foot deep. The lower half of the bed won't contribute significantly to shroom formation, but it might just be deep enough to let the fruiting half of the bed serve as insulation for the lower half. This might result in the lower half of your bed might still be alive in spring, acting as outdoor growing/storage locations for spawn. Then that spring you use the lower half of the bed to lay two or three fresh deep beds.
An alternative would be to grow your shrooms against the wall of your house. Your home's heating in part goes through the walls, warming the soil around it.
Windchill is worst for cooling anything down, so RR has a point with the mulching over.
Since you'll be growing for personal use you might think about growing in plastic tubs, which you can easily take in your home and stack atop eachother for convenient storage. Through strategic moving in autumn you can probably lengthen your harvest cycle.
If you have an unheated toolshed, the climate in there will be much better than outside.
I have heard about shallow cyanescens patches surviving weeks of -20'C frost and of cultivation high up in Canada.
Zone 4 is icy cold though!
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Re: Ps. cyanescens in cold zones [Re: Asante]
#6367954 - 12/13/06 09:06 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Zone 4 here and heavily mulching means 18-24in. of mulch cover. I use wheat straw bails.
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Re: Ps. cyanescens in cold zones [Re: hyphae]
#6368033 - 12/13/06 09:23 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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heavily mulching means 18-24in.
wow
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Re: Ps. cyanescens in cold zones [Re: Asante]
#6368187 - 12/13/06 10:01 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
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heavily mulching means 18-24in.
wow
lol... you guys are hardcore...
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