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Offlinekristofer
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the irony of woman
    #6362334 - 12/12/06 04:45 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

she doesn't want to seem vulnerable, like she has to depend on someone or something, but she wants to depend on someone. sometimes I refer to it as the "knight in shining armor" complex.


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Re: the irony of woman [Re: kristofer]
    #6362337 - 12/12/06 04:46 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I have known some fiercely independent women in my time.


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Re: the irony of woman [Re: kristofer]
    #6362338 - 12/12/06 04:46 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I think all women do this to a certain extent.

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Re: the irony of woman [Re: Le_Canard]
    #6362343 - 12/12/06 04:49 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

fiercely independent women are generally the ones the knight must rescue after all.. the dragon abducts the princess that runs away from the castle.


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Re: the irony of woman [Re: kristofer]
    #6362354 - 12/12/06 04:52 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: the irony of woman [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #6362372 - 12/12/06 04:57 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

that's a good read. women are "hardwired" to be dependent on men.


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Re: the irony of woman [Re: kristofer]
    #6362374 - 12/12/06 04:57 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

it was written by a man..lol


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Re: the irony of woman [Re: BIGSWANG]
    #6362378 - 12/12/06 04:58 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I bet he masturbated on his wife's face while writing it


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Re: the irony of woman [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #6362385 - 12/12/06 04:59 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I know I sure did reading it! :laugh:

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Re: the irony of woman [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #6362421 - 12/12/06 05:08 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

:shrug: she let him


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Re: the irony of woman [Re: kristofer]
    #6362772 - 12/12/06 06:34 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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kristofer said:
she doesn't want to seem vulnerable, like she has to depend on someone or something, but she wants to depend on someone. sometimes I refer to it as the "knight in shining armor" complex.




i can appreciate how you might make such a clever deduction.

however...

i am a woman, and i never try to mask my vulnerabilities. i cry at hallmark commercials-- especially, but not limited to, when i am on the rag. i'm scared of spiders. my boyfriend "rescues" me from all of the ones that creep into our apartment. and i definitely require cuddling when i am sick.

i have never met another human being who didn't have vulnerabilities though, so i really don't feel "bad" about mine or like there is any need to pretend like i don't have them. and the only things i guess i "depend" on my boyfriend for are honesty, respect, and support (in terms of encouragement and advice). otherwise, i take care of myself...


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Re: the irony of woman [Re: a2ndopinion]
    #6362794 - 12/12/06 06:42 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

My sister has always been afraid of spiders too...then in 5th grade the "reward" for doing all your homework was the watching a movie, that year the movie was arachnaphobia. The "reward" was mandatory and despite her fear they didn't excuse her.  :mad2:  Her fear increased 10 fold, to the point where she actually got sick whenever spiders were around.  She's since gotten better, but is still scared of them.....it still pisses me off that the bastards made her sit through that movie. That age you're still just a little kid...... :nonono:  :thumbdown:


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Re: the irony of woman [Re: a2ndopinion]
    #6362808 - 12/12/06 06:45 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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i cry at hallmark commercials




Bwahahahahaha!

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Re: the irony of woman [Re: Dark_Star]
    #6362827 - 12/12/06 06:52 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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My sister has always been afraid of spiders too...



My roommates and I took on a subletter who was afraid of basically all non-mammals.

We didn't learn this until she started waking us up in the middle of the night to kill whatever it was she had just found in the bathroom.

The funny thing is (we have a 4-bedroom apartment) there were 2 guys and 1 other girl living there, and she NEVER woke up the other girl to kill the various insects she found over the course of the 3 months she was with us.

Note: I do not live in filth, it was the summer and a few insects a month are going to happen.

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Re: the irony of woman [Re: Economist]
    #6362833 - 12/12/06 06:53 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Wow man, I imagine that got quite annoying after awhile.


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Re: the irony of woman [Re: Dark_Star]
    #6362845 - 12/12/06 06:57 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, she was a good roommate in basically every other way, so we never really did anything about it.

I liked your post though, I had completely forgotten about ridiculous elementary-schoolisms, like "mandatory rewards".

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Re: the irony of woman [Re: Economist]
    #6363019 - 12/12/06 07:11 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

:lol: Yeah, so did I until I saw a2ndopinions post about the spiders.


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Re: the irony of woman [Re: Dark_Star]
    #6363220 - 12/12/06 07:25 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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My sister has always been afraid of spiders too...then in 5th grade the "reward" for doing all your homework was the watching a movie, that year the movie was arachnaphobia. The "reward" was mandatory and despite her fear they didn't excuse her.  :mad2:  Her fear increased 10 fold, to the point where she actually got sick whenever spiders were around.  She's since gotten better, but is still scared of them.....it still pisses me off that the bastards made her sit through that movie. That age you're still just a little kid...... :nonono:  :thumbdown:




that's fucked up.

yeah i've seen that movie too.  i closed my eyes through most of it.  it made my fear 10 X worse, like you said about your sister.  i forget why i was forced to watch it... it wasn't in school or anything... but, whatever the reason, i couldn't sleep through the night for weeks afterwards.

to this day, if i see a spider on television, i'll swear i can feel it crawling on me.  it's awful.


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Re: the irony of woman [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #6363229 - 12/12/06 07:27 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Bwahahahahaha!




bite me

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Re: the irony of woman [Re: Economist]
    #6363428 - 12/12/06 07:34 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Economist said:

The funny thing is (we have a 4-bedroom apartment) there were 2 guys and 1 other girl living there, and she NEVER woke up the other girl to kill the various insects she found over the course of the 3 months she was with us.





whenever i see a spider in the apartment, i exclaim, "i need a boy to come kill this!"...

...but in all fairness, i live with 2 boys, and we already know that i'm not going to kill it, so, come on...


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Re: the irony of woman [Re: kristofer]
    #6363429 - 12/12/06 07:34 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Broad generalizations about an entire group of humanity are risky at best, fallacious at worst.  I'd say this one is somewhere in between.

Some women feign independence, while secretly clinging and gold-digging.  Others don't bother to feign independence, and openly cling and gold-dig.  Some reject any form of dependence, and constantly seek to prove that they do not need anyone. Still others really are as independent as humans get--which is to say, not very. 

Men and women depend upon other humans to meet their needs for love, acceptance and belonging.  Humans who are isolated tend to get sick and die much sooner than those with loving companions.  We are primates, and need to be touched and loved, we need company sometimes, and sometimes really need to be alone.

This is true whether you are an "inny" or an "outie."  :grin:

(P.S.  I'm a woman, and I deal calmly with vermin, household repairs, financial management, opening jars and walking alone after dark.  I even caught a bat that got into my office, when my male boss and two female co-workers all went into convulsions at first sight.  :rolleyes:)

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Re: the irony of woman [Re: a2ndopinion]
    #6363471 - 12/12/06 07:42 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, I was scared of spiders too, to a degree. I wound up having a trip where basically everything erupted into spiders which leapt on me...ALL over me.  I could feel them and everything. I was like oh fuck, no way. It's kinda funny how it happened. Someone made a mock anti-drug poster that said spiders, my anti-drug and posted it on the shroomery.  It had a picture of a really fucked up dude saying "fucking spiders......EVERYWHERE!" or something to that effect. :lol: Anyways, that popped into my head one night while I was really, really spun and and then there really were fucking spiders.....EVERYWHERE.  I tried to shake it off, didn't work.....then this voice in my head said "God is LOVE", so I thought the word love over and over again...then I began to feel it. I looked at all of these leaping spiders (I literally couldn't see anything but them, and this is with my eyes open) and I told them I loved them, and felt it, I felt a strong love for these infinite spiders erupt through me and they were washed away in an incredible wash of wave after wave of brilliant & vivid colors. I remember lots of blue, purple...silver, gold, clear; the clear light. Then there were smiling faces swirling all around my room.  A whole lot of other shit went down, but I'll leave it at that.  Ever since that experience my fear of spiders has pretty much vanished.


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Re: the irony of woman [Re: Dark_Star]
    #6363593 - 12/12/06 08:08 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah, I was scared of spiders too, to a degree. I wound up having a trip where basically everything erupted into spiders which leapt on me...ALL over me.  I could feel them and everything. I was like oh fuck, no way. It's kinda funny how it happened. Someone made a mock anti-drug poster that said spiders, my anti-drug and posted it on the shroomery.  It had a picture of a really fucked up dude saying "fucking spiders......EVERYWHERE!" or something to that effect. :lol: Anyways, that popped into my head one night while I was really, really spun and and then there really were fucking spiders.....EVERYWHERE.  I tried to shake it off, didn't work.....then this voice in my head said "God is LOVE", so I thought the word love over and over again...then I began to feel it. I looked at all of these leaping spiders (I literally couldn't see anything but them, and this is with my eyes open) and I told them I loved them, and felt it, I felt a strong love for these infinite spiders erupt through me and they were washed away in an incredible wash of wave after wave of brilliant & vivid colors. I remember lots of blue, purple...silver, gold, clear; the clear light. Then there were smiling faces swirling all around my room.  A whole lot of other shit went down, but I'll leave it at that.  Ever since that experience my fear of spiders has pretty much vanished.




woah, what was your dosage for this endeavor???


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Re: the irony of woman [Re: a2ndopinion]
    #6363663 - 12/12/06 08:25 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

3 hits of some good L plus some hash. I had an really intense and amazing trip as it was, then smoked the hash 3-4 hours into it. As always happens to me damn near every time I smoke when I trip, I couldn't feel the smoke and was so spun to begin with that I just kept hitting bowl until I finally realized how far gone I really was, and this was when I only came across the stuff everynow and then, so 3 hits alone blew me away. The resulting experience was on the level of 5 hits of stellar LSD. These spiders were the least of it, I saw how good and evil have always been at odds, and will be for quite some time, and I saw all of the different levels of this....and so much more. I died and my body turned to dust which blew away...and I traveled many, many places. Many dark places and many beautiful. It was a highly educational experience, and when it began (right after I finished smoking and realized what I had done) there were....beings that contacted me and took me on this.......journey. I've seen these beings a lot and still have no clue what they are. Aliens, angels, demons, spirits.....representations of various parts of my psyche. Who knows.....I sure don't.


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Re: the irony of woman [Re: Dark_Star]
    #6363810 - 12/12/06 08:56 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

woah.  yeah i don't think i'm ready for that.  i probably won't ever be.

for now i'll stick to tripping on shrooms.  one time i saw a dinosaur outlined in pink lights eating a star...  that's more my speed.  :wink:


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Re: the irony of woman [Re: a2ndopinion]
    #6363845 - 12/12/06 09:08 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

just plug there holes and quit fucking worrying about it

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Re: the irony of woman [Re: a2ndopinion]
    #6365527 - 12/13/06 10:35 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

It's not easy to deal with at times, but I find it to be very rewarding. My life has been completely changed for the better thanks to experiences like that. :laugh:

I find that mushrooms are harder to deal with, and often cause the same sort of experience but with a lot less control. LSD steamrolls me sometimes, but I usually have a handle on it, and if I don't I can go with the flow a lot easier than I can with mushrooms.  It's really intriguing  how people react differently to these substances.


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Re: the irony of woman [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #6365564 - 12/13/06 10:46 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

a2ndopinion said:
i cry at hallmark commercials




Bwahahahahaha!




so do i :sad:

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Re: the irony of woman [Re: Dark_Star]
    #6365609 - 12/13/06 10:59 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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that year the movie was arachnaphobia.




Strange how kids can be. When I was little Arachnaphobia was one of my favorite movies. I even had the computer game which consisted of you roaming house to house spraying spiders. You beat the level by finding and killing the "queen", who was a spider on crack you had to fight. Once dead you drive to the next town and start it over with new houses.

I always had a pet turantula growing up. Made for great show-n-tell.

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Re: the irony of woman [Re: Edgekrusher]
    #6365639 - 12/13/06 11:07 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

Dark_Star said:
that year the movie was arachnaphobia.




Strange how kids can be.  When I was little Arachnaphobia was one of my favorite movies.  I even had the computer game which consisted of you roaming house to house spraying spiders.  You beat the level by finding and killing the "queen", who was a spider on crack you had to fight.  Once dead you drive to the next town and start it over with new houses.

I always had a pet turantula growing up.  Made for great show-n-tell.




There was a game!!??!!  :lol:  That sounds fucking sweet man.


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